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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:05 am UTC
by Thesh
LaserGuy wrote:Scientists determine the average time to poop out a swallowed Lego is 1.7 days. They determined this by ingesting the Legos themselves...

Shoo in for this year's Ignoble awards.


I don't think it should count if the only reason you are doing the experiment is to win an Ignoble. Kind of like the Guinness Book of Records where people were trying to fit the most stuff in their mouth or whatnot and injuring themselves so they stopped accepting submissions.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:36 am UTC
by KittenKaboodle
Thesh wrote:
LaserGuy wrote:Scientists determine the average time to poop out a swallowed Lego is 1.7 days. They determined this by ingesting the Legos themselves...

Shoo in for this year's Ignoble awards.


I don't think it should count if the only reason you are doing the experiment is to win an Ignoble. Kind of like the Guinness Book of Records where people were trying to fit the most stuff in their mouth or whatnot and injuring themselves so they stopped accepting submissions.


I think they have a plausible case for claiming it was not *just* for winning an Ignoble
the link wrote:Aim

Children frequently ingest coins (generally with minimal reported side effects); however, the ingestion of other items has been subject to less academic study. Parental concern regarding ingestion applies across a range of materials.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:57 am UTC
by Thesh
Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc? It just seems to me that there are better ways to find out how long objects take to pass than having adults ingest plastic, when children around the world are already ingesting objects on a regular basis.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:49 am UTC
by Angua
They didn't do it for the Ignoble, they did it for the Christmas BMJ.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:20 am UTC
by Sableagle
Thesh wrote:Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc?
Parents don't start a stopwatch at the moment the child swallows the coin or lego brick.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:47 pm UTC
by idonno
Sableagle wrote:
Thesh wrote:Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc?
Parents don't start a stopwatch at the moment the child swallows the coin or lego brick.

And paying them to do so would create ethical issues and would almost certainly still not get you very good data.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:49 pm UTC
by WriteBrainedJR
Thesh wrote:Apparently scientists want to add another supra-kingdom to the tree of life.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/hemi ... -1.4715823

This is why no one takes scientists seriously; their taxonomy has been proven wrong time and again, and they just keep going like it's no big deal.

A new supra-kingdom for five friggin' species? That seems really inefficient.

Can we just exterminate them so we don't have to bother with them anymore? :lol:

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:57 pm UTC
by Angua
Thesh wrote:Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc? It just seems to me that there are better ways to find out how long objects take to pass than having adults ingest plastic, when children around the world are already ingesting objects on a regular basis.

Again, Christmas BMJ.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:04 pm UTC
by sardia
Self reports are notoriously unreliable. Double blind swallowing of Legos is the best bet.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:37 pm UTC
by WriteBrainedJR
sardia wrote:Self reports are notoriously unreliable. Double blind swallowing of Legos is the best bet.

So an experimental group that swallows Legos, and a control group that swallows a placebo.

What's the placebo for a Lego? Mega-Bloks?

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:39 pm UTC
by sardia
WriteBrainedJR wrote:So an experimental group that swallows Legos, and a control group that swallows a placebo.

What's the placebo for a Lego? Mega-Bloks?

Maybe a Sugar cube pressed into shape of Legos. Coated with pill shell material so it doesn't taste sweet. Not sure if this needs a placebo actually. How about some rainbow licorice so you can detect when your stool changes color.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 pm UTC
by WriteBrainedJR
sardia wrote:
WriteBrainedJR wrote:So an experimental group that swallows Legos, and a control group that swallows a placebo.

What's the placebo for a Lego? Mega-Bloks?

Maybe a Sugar cube pressed into shape of Legos. Coated with pill shell material so it doesn't taste sweet. Not sure if this needs a placebo actually.

Well, you do if you want to run a double-blind study.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:56 pm UTC
by idonno
Couldn't you set up a valid double blind study where everyone takes something like Rohypnol so they can't remember if they ingested a Lego or not?

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:08 pm UTC
by Zamfir
It's simple to do. Everyone eats the Lego brick. Then the control group gets the antidote, while the test group gets a placebo.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:22 pm UTC
by orthogon
Sableagle wrote:
Thesh wrote:Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc?
Parents don't start a stopwatch at the moment the child swallows the coin or lego brick.

No, but soon every Lego [block] will have its own IPv6 address, so it can time its own transit through the digestive tract and upload it to the cloud.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:36 pm UTC
by Sableagle
If it was owned by Facebook, every box would also come with smallprint saying that by assembling things out of the pieces you give them the copyright and patent on whatever you build, and have to pay a fee to make another of the same thing.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:51 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
Do Lego figurines pass through quicker? I'm now imagining a groups of Lego people having a series of adventures such as "Escape from the colon of terror".


Also, very important. Would these Lego figures like to ride the Pirates of the Pancreas?

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:09 am UTC
by WriteBrainedJR
idonno wrote:Couldn't you set up a valid double blind study where everyone takes something like Rohypnol so they can't remember if they ingested a Lego or not?

Maybe? But the drug would have to be 100% effective, and to make it double-blind, you'd also have to give it to the people who give the Legos to the test subjects in the experimental group. The drug might also be a confounding variable. What effect does it have on the digestive system? It's possible that it could make the time slower or faster than for a non-drugged individual.

Plus...give people a date-rape drug to time how fast small pieces of plastic move through the digestive tract? I think the saying for that is "the cure is worse than the disease." Or maybe just a plain "first, do no harm."

CorruptUser wrote:Do Lego figurines pass through quicker? I'm now imagining a groups of Lego people having a series of adventures such as "Escape from the colon of terror".


Also, very important. Would these Lego figures like to ride the Pirates of the Pancreas?

That depends. How whitewashed would the pirates be?

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:30 am UTC
by Coyne
Thesh wrote:I don't think it should count if the only reason you are doing the experiment is to win an Ignoble. Kind of like the Guinness Book of Records where people were trying to fit the most stuff in their mouth or whatnot and injuring themselves so they stopped accepting submissions.

Nah, come on: could anything be more ignoble than cheating to get an ignoble? There might be a rule, but in the absence of a rule, this should be a way to win.

WriteBrainedJR wrote:A new supra-kingdom for five friggin' species? That seems really inefficient.

Can we just exterminate them so we don't have to bother with them anymore? :lol:


Isaac Asimov wrote:"Two is an impossible number, and can't exist"


Where there be five, there will be more...

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:16 am UTC
by ucim
Coyne wrote:Where there be five, there will be more...
Five is right out!

Jose

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:24 am UTC
by Angua
Surely the easiest way to make it double blind is to just encase the figuring in something digestable. Then give a fully digestable pill as the placebo.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:33 am UTC
by Zamfir
Or we make all Lego bricks from something digestible, thus solving the root cause of the problem.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:49 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
https://shop.lego.com/en-US/Vestas-Wind-Turbine-10268
Includes a new-for-January-2019 spruce tree; manufactured from sustainably sourced plant-based plastic.


(Though, handling said tree, it doesn't seem to have been made with obviously digestible plastic. So it probably isn't, just plant-sourced monomers.)

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:42 am UTC
by Coyne
The little Lego house is way too close (YouTube) to the Lego windmill.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:47 pm UTC
by sardia
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/67240195 ... -d-c-clerk
White guy thinks New Mexico isn't part of the US, and refuses to issue marriage license without foreign passport. The couple complained to the guy's boss, and he too didn't recognize NM as a US state. 20 minutes later, and I presume googling states in America, the situation is finally resolved.

I would have made a bet with that moron, and the guy's boss. At least get some restitution for the wasted time. What's next, denying foreign looking people rights cuz they look brown?

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:27 am UTC
by jewish_scientist
LaserGuy wrote:Scientists determine the average time to poop out a swallowed Lego is 1.7 days. They determined this by ingesting the Legos themselves...

Shoo in for this year's Ignoble awards.

Everything is awesome: Don't forget the Legos wrote:Pre‐ingestion bowel habit was standardised by the Stool Hardness and Transit (SHAT) score... The primary outcome was the Found and Retrieved Time (FART) score.

I literally loled. Also, the authors formatted Lego wrong. I do not know the right way, but considering how complicated the whole issue is I feel like this is a pretty same accusation to make.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:47 am UTC
by WriteBrainedJR
sardia wrote:https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/672401957/new-mexico-id-temporarily-rejected-as-foreign-by-d-c-clerk
White guy thinks New Mexico isn't part of the US, and refuses to issue marriage license without foreign passport. There couple complained to the guy's boss, and he too didn't recognize NM as a US state. 20 minutes later, and I presume googling states in America, the situation is finally resolved.

I would have made a bet with that moron, and the guy's boss. At least get some restitution for the wasted time. What's next, denying foreign looking people rights cuz they look brown?

This is not a new problem. My parents used to live in NM, and one time they tried to order tickets for the Olympics and the person who answered the phone insisted that they had to hang up and call the number for foreigners.

This was quite a long time ago, too.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:02 pm UTC
by ijuin
I’ve also heard idiots who insist that Hawaii is counted as “overseas” because there is ocean between it and the mainland.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:49 pm UTC
by idonno
I think it depends on what you are classifying Hawaii for. For travel requirements and shipping costs, I could certainly see classifying it as overseas.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:15 pm UTC
by Thesh
No, because overseas goes through customs, Hawaii doesn't.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:15 am UTC
by idonno
Going through customs is more of a time cost. I'm talking about various cost options. A trip to Mexico which involves a border crossing can be done at a a low cost per person if you take a van full of people. A trip to Hawaii requires transit over water which doesn't really have near the cheap trade off of time vs price that a trip on the same land mass can achieve. How you should classify something pretty much always depends on why you care about the distinction you are trying to make. If you are just engaging in common conversation, it is clearly not right to consider Hawaii overseas though.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:54 am UTC
by Link

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:59 pm UTC
by idonno
It is too bad they are retired because I was looking forward to seeing them get sent to a different school where the missing money was less likely to be reported.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:21 pm UTC
by commodorejohn
There's a comedic heist film/road comedy just crying out to be made in that synopsis.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:02 pm UTC
by jewish_scientist
idonno wrote:It is too bad they are retired because I was looking forward to seeing them get sent to a different school where the missing money was less likely to be reported.

On Monday, St James' Catholic Church said the nuns had expressed "deep remorse" over their actions, adding that while the police had been informed, no criminal charges would be brought against the pair.

I would say that's pretty close.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:20 pm UTC
by ElWanderer

Obligatory Father Ted quote: "that money was just resting in my account!"

Maybe they could be sent off to some quiet covent on a quiet, craggy island somewhere out of the way, possibly with an alcoholic old nun who is scared of monks and a servant who insists on serving coffee at regular intervals.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:01 pm UTC
by freezeblade
ElWanderer wrote:

Obligatory Father Ted quote: "that money was just resting in my account!"

Maybe they could be sent off to some quiet covent on a quiet, craggy island somewhere out of the way, possibly with an alcoholic old nun who is scared of monks and a servant who insists on serving coffee at regular intervals.


I, for one, would watch this spin-off happily.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:53 pm UTC
by idonno
jewish_scientist wrote:
idonno wrote:It is too bad they are retired because I was looking forward to seeing them get sent to a different school where the missing money was less likely to be reported.

On Monday, St James' Catholic Church said the nuns had expressed "deep remorse" over their actions, adding that while the police had been informed, no criminal charges would be brought against the pair.

I would say that's pretty close.


It is close to not reporting someone and moving them where they could do no harm which while bad is not what was done in many molestation cases.

I strongly suspect that with money on the line the cover up would involve putting them in a role where they don't interact with the money instead of giving them access to revenue streams that were easier to embezzle from without being caught.

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:37 pm UTC
by Soupspoon

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:18 pm UTC
by SDK
Soupspoon wrote:NASA roboticists, eh. They all seem to have creative itches to scratch.

That is pretty hilarious. If you've ever had an Amazon package stolen, watch that video and prepare for some schadenfreude.