Jahoclave wrote:What I really wonder is, can Sourmilk ever actually admit to Israel having done anything wrong? If he has, I've yet to see that. Such ardency to his position damages his credibility as far as I'm concerned. Honestly, are we really going to pretend that one side nearly deserves sainthood here?
I think that Israel has almost consistently acted appropriate. That said, I have acknowledged Israel wrongdoing. I think they don't do well enforcing the laws against Israeli settlements in the West Bank, they shouldn't have included Gilad Shalit as part of the ceasefire agreement, there was a particular house raid in the West Bank that I can't find at the moment that was a total screwup, and there are certainly situations where soldiers have acted completely inappropriately, killing innocent civilians. My point is mostly that Israeli policy is sound.
Conversely, I'd like to see Jon ever commend one of Israel's actions.
If either side wanted to play ball, then peace could be a possibility... But hey, one side can't hit the side of a barn with MISSILES, and the other holds 11 year olds at gunpoint to search for IEDs.
There is no right or wrong in this situation, both sides are fucked by their own actions. I'm sorry if OP thinks some actionable balance to the USs blind faith in israel is a terrible thing, but maybe it's about time the little kid stops getting kicked in the balls because his big brother told him to stop sticking his tongue out at the mean kid with glasses.
for drunken clarity
little kid = palestine
big brother = egypt
Your understanding of the situation is flawed, and your criticisms of both sides in the initial sentence is... interesting. I have no problem with soldiers holding civilians out of an area that might potentially have an explosive in it, but I certainly have a problem with the systematic targeting of civilians (which is why the IED is there.)
And the little kid is getting kicked in the balls because he keeps trying to stab the big kid with scissors. Furthermore, how could Egypt's potential funding of Hamas possibly be construed as appropriate? Hamas is a terrorist group, they target civilians. It is exactly the equivalent of Iran fighting proxy wars with the US (or Israel) by funding terrorist groups. Egypt would only further the conflict. If Hamas put down their weapons, things would be fine. Israel's tried that approach, and they've received rockets in response.