Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

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Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby PeterCai » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:17 am UTC

I can't find a news article that don't get all pissy about China's reaction, so I'll post the offical award link.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peac ... ates/2010/

About time.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Sharlos » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:36 am UTC

Well I think China's reaction of threats and putting his wife under effective house arrest is fairly pertinent to the story.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Jahoclave » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:34 pm UTC

Oh good, now I can pretend the assignment we're doing in Freshman comp was insanely well timed. Like, we're introducing it today and tomorrow depending on the schedule.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby PeterCai » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:10 pm UTC

Sharlos wrote:Well I think China's reaction of threats and putting his wife under effective house arrest is fairly pertinent to the story.


there's actually no other way for china to react without retconning the country's official stance on tiananmen square, so this is expected.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby SummerGlauFan » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:15 pm UTC

PeterCai wrote:
Sharlos wrote:Well I think China's reaction of threats and putting his wife under effective house arrest is fairly pertinent to the story.


there's actually no other way for china to react without retconning the country's official stance on tiananmen square, so this is expected.


So... that makes it ok?
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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby PeterCai » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:15 pm UTC

SummerGlauFan wrote:So... that makes it ok?


nah, just expected.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby kingofdreams » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:49 pm UTC

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Sartorius » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:04 pm UTC

I was about to "like" that comment, until I realized I'm not on Facebook.
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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Anubis » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:57 am UTC

Sartorius wrote:I was about to "like" that comment, until I realized I'm not on Facebook.


I was about to "like" that comment, until I realized I'm not on Facebook.

No seriously, I honestly read that and then tried to find the "like" button. :|

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby dragon » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:13 pm UTC

It's saddening just to read some of the comments.

With the aid of googletranslate:
One commentator wrote:Congratulations to him to win, obviously I can not play his name, because then I will not be able to congratulate the issue here.
And another wrote:Congratulate him on winning, please forgive me for not direct hit to his name, because it is sensitive, will be prohibited.
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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby jestingrabbit » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:32 pm UTC

A sort of follow up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11529920

A group of 23 Communist Party elders in China has written a letter calling for an end to the country's restrictions on freedom of speech.

The letter says freedom of expression is promised in the Chinese constitution but not allowed in practice.
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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby PeterCai » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:38 pm UTC

jestingrabbit wrote:A sort of follow up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11529920

A group of 23 Communist Party elders in China has written a letter calling for an end to the country's restrictions on freedom of speech.

The letter says freedom of expression is promised in the Chinese constitution but not allowed in practice.


argh, yeah, Hu's bunch is way too aggresive on social control. harmonious society really did not work out at all.

this is promising though, i hope we can see some compromise measures between progressive and conservative within ccp in the near future.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Robstickle » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:17 pm UTC

dragon wrote:It's saddening just to read some of the comments.


Even more depressing were the BBC comments, a lot of the Chinese seemed to buying into this whole "attack on our culture" nonsense.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby sardia » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:56 pm UTC

Robstickle wrote:
dragon wrote:It's saddening just to read some of the comments.


Even more depressing were the BBC comments, a lot of the Chinese seemed to buying into this whole "attack on our culture" nonsense.

It's easy if the non tech savvy part of the population(aka, the majority) doesn't get access to other viewpoints. Try watching fox news for a couple weeks. You'd think the world was going to end in a tidal wave of gays and muslims.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Aikanaro » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:35 pm UTC

sardia wrote:
Robstickle wrote:
dragon wrote:It's saddening just to read some of the comments.


Even more depressing were the BBC comments, a lot of the Chinese seemed to buying into this whole "attack on our culture" nonsense.

It's easy if the non tech savvy part of the population(aka, the majority) doesn't get access to other viewpoints. Try watching fox news for a couple weeks. You'd think the world was going to end in a tidal wave of gays and muslims.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Robstickle » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:51 pm UTC

sardia wrote:
Robstickle wrote:
dragon wrote:It's saddening just to read some of the comments.


Even more depressing were the BBC comments, a lot of the Chinese seemed to buying into this whole "attack on our culture" nonsense.

It's easy if the non tech savvy part of the population(aka, the majority) doesn't get access to other viewpoints. Try watching fox news for a couple weeks. You'd think the world was going to end in a tidal wave of gays and muslims.


The thing is these were comments posted onto the BBC website, meaning these were the ones tech savvy enough to bypass that huge firewall. I know I shouldn't be surprised but it's still kind of depressing.

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby BlackSails » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:18 pm UTC

They could just be chinese astrotufers

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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby Darkscull » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:41 pm UTC

BlackSails wrote:They could just be chinese astrotufers


There was something in the news a year or so back about the Chinese government paying people to go around making comments on blogs, articles and social network sites praising and defending the regime.
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Re: Activist Liu Xiaobo wins nobel prize

Postby sardia » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:16 pm UTC

Darkscull wrote:
BlackSails wrote:They could just be chinese astrotufers


There was something in the news a year or so back about the Chinese government paying people to go around making comments on blogs, articles and social network sites praising and defending the regime.

They don't really have to pay them; there is a lot nationalistic faction in china who freely post pro chinese messages.


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