This conflict did not start in 1948, or anytime in the last hundred years. The conflict over Israel and specifically Jerusalem has been going on for millenia. The reasons are almost always the same, the results are always bloody, and the Jews are always somehow involved.
That's historically inaccurate, and it's a way of dodging responsibility using lazy-journalist cliche ("ancient hatreds for millenia.")
In reality, about a hundred years and change ago, a group of European Jews decided to target Palestine for colonization, fully realizing that the Palestinians (they saw them as Arabs) would have to be removed ("spirited away" in Hertzl's lingo) so they could be replaced by Jews.
That's where the conflict started. Full stop.
When your ancestors, both in recent history and ancient history, faught and died for the land, it's very hard to think objectively and level-headedly about conflict resolution. The fact that every Israeli citizen is drafted in to the IDF at the age of 16 doesn't help, because the moment you are shot at or attacked by a Palestinian solely because you are an Iraeli, you start to lose your ability to think logically about pursuing peace. When you think about it, almost every government official in Israel has probably been involved in a conflict with palestinians, and you can't deny the effect that it has on your thought process.
In the third and fourth generation of this, it becomes even harder. and many Israeli's nationalist/zionist ideas don't just go back to 1948, but to the 2nd century CE, when the Jews were officially expelled from their land, only to officially return as a sovereign nation 2000 years later. The Arab-Jewish/Israeli conflict has also been a powder keg since early in the millenium, and that plays a big part in the animosity, regardless of any homeland dispute.
That's not true. Judaism decide in the 4th century AD that to "hasten the end" was an evil, un-Jewish thing to do, and that it was forbidden by the Torah. So things stood for 1,500 years, until a cadre of pork-eating atheists decided that colonizing the Middle East was the solution to anti-Semitism in Europe. In the 19th century.
What I'm trying to get at is that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is much more complex and multi-faceted than simply a 60 year old border conflict. There is a whole bunch of history that people tend to ignore when talking about the issues, and it's critical that events be taken in the proper historical and social context.
Racism is wrong. Discriminating against someone because of who they are married to is wrong. There is no social or historical conflict that makes that OK.
There is no right or wrong party here. It's all grey area when you start writing names on the board and keeping score. Determining an accountabole party and punishing them will ultimatetely be a futile excersize resulting in universal distrust and a restarting of the cycle of violence and fear we all know so well.
Determining who is accountable and not punishing them but making them stop
is the way we got rid of slavery, of the criminalization of homosexuality, of apartheid.
So, stop arguing about who is right and wrong. It's a war, and war sucks. Stopping a war will not happen by playing the blame game.
War is not some magic balm that excuses everything you do, to your own minorities as well as to the enemy. Israel has always considered itself to be at war, whether or not anyone was making war on them. It's their mentality, and they use it excuse the things they want to do to the people anyway.
Personally, I feel nore sadness than anger over the situation. Justified anger can only manifest when you know without a doubt what should be happening. How many of you have been in an urban warfare environment, in crowded slums, being shot at, not knowing who the enemy is? How many of you have lived as a palestinian, enmenshed in their culture, indoctrinated with the brand of Islam that promotes killing innoncent people to achieve your goal? How many of you had to face decisions that will decide the fate of a person, where it's up to you to decide if they are planning to shoot you or shiit rockets into your neighborhood?
You are far more likely to be indoctrinated into killing innocent people by the IDF than you are by the predominately secular Palestinian society. Like all societies under occupation, they resist, but they resist in order to be free, not, like the glad-handled Jewish terrorist mentioned above, because they see the Other as fundamentally inferior and unworthy of life.
EMTP, you're playing the blame game you always play, and you accomplish nothing by saying the solution needs to come from an apologetic Israel because they are an evil and despotic apartheid. I know that you a decent grasp on the history of the region, and you should know and understand that this conflict is much deeper than simple power plays and barbarism.
Who's playing the blame game? This is an aspect of what's going on over there, stuff we're supporting with taxes dollars and diplomatic cover. I never said it was the only thing or that it explained everything. You could acknowledge that this policy is racist, unfair, and self-destructive, and that would not bring Zionism to ruin since, as you point out, all societies have their problems.
If you're so objective and innocent of trolling, tell me why you would post an article that talks about an issue that hasn't even been resolved yet and is awaiting final judgement from the courts. Other than to say "Hey, look what evil action the Israelis did today", this story is totally irrelevent to anything. It was simply to get a rise out of the pro-Israel people here, and congratulations, you succeeded. Now what?
Maybe "Hey, guess what you tax dollars helped happen today?" is not a bad discussion to have. Regardless of what the courts decide, this is the policy of the government, they are sticking to it despite the criticism, and it is already affecting people. So I think it's important. People who think I bring up these thing solely to get a rise out of them (I don't) are free to thwart my evil scheme by not responding.
"Reasonable – that is, human – men will always be capable of compromise, but men who have dehumanized themselves by becoming the blind worshipers of an idea or an ideal are fanatics whose devotion to abstractions makes them the enemies of life."
-- Alan Watts, "The Way of Zen"