King Author wrote:It's incredibly glib to say, "ah, yeah, there were a buncha nutjob anti-Bush protesters back in the day -- they're all the same." BUSH TORTURED DUDES. He started a war for personal profit!
I admit, it's hard to accept my argument if you are one of the deranged Bush haters.
I hasten to point out that Obama has started his own quagmire in Afghanistan, and is still holding many of Bush's illegal prisoners with no demonstrated intention to release them. Furthermore, many of the most deranged allegations against the Bush administration--that they would unconstitutionally hold onto power after the 2008 elections, or that they would attack Iran or use nuclear weapons--never came to pass. The fact that there are worthwhile things to criticize Bush for does not change the fact that many of Bush's critics were every bit as deranged as many of Obama's critics.
King Author wrote:The rabid anti-Bush protesters had legitimate reasons to be rabid (the guy was a warmonger and did I mention torturer?).
There's no qualitative difference between Bush, Bill Clinton before him, and Barack Obama after him. All have engaged in warmongering, extraordinary rendition, and illegal imprisonment of human beings.
The fact is, none of you liberals marched in the street denouncing Clinton's bombing campaigns against Sudanese aspirin factories, Chinese embassies, and Serbian hospitals. You were too busy damning the Republicans for impeaching him to even notice when he started wars simply to distract national attention away from his philandering and perjury. Where are the complaints that Clinton's enforcement of economic sanctions against Iraq killed more Iraqi civilians by starvation and poverty than Bush did in six years of warfare? Where are the complaints that Clinton cowardly sat on his hands while the Rwandan Hutus committed genocide against their Tutsi countrymen? Where were you when Clinton tried to outlaw strong encryption, when he created the pseudo-legal doctrine of extraordinary rendition, where he sent federal agents to murder Vicki Weaver while she held her infant child?
The only logical conclusion is that you lot don't even care about human rights. You're just partisan, and like any partisan, you criticize the Republicans for being Republicans, just as Republicans criticize Democrats for being Democrats. You are one and the same. And once you ramp up the level of hatred and partisanship and derangement, it stays ramped up on both sides.
King Author wrote:And this is nothing new. The exact same thing happened with Nixon; people who were young during his years became disillusioned with government due to his extreme corruption, so the next candidate to come along from the other side was looked at as a beacon of hope, a change for the better.
You mean Carter? That's funny...after just about four years of Carter, the next candidate to come along from the other side was looked at as a beacon of hope, a change for the better.
King Author wrote:And the whole "Oh me yarm Obama is a cult of personality" bitching is nonsense, too -- remember Kennedy, anyone? Kennedy was young, charismatic, atheletic and attractive and had a young, charismatic, fashionable, attractive wife; it's the same with the Obamas. Idiots who live and die by celebrity gossip, think TMZ is the best invention ever and are direly concerned with whether Brangelina might be adopting again are obviously going to be more interested in such a president than in a wrinkly, boring old man and his stiff, Stepford wife. So what of it?
The entire basis of celebrity gossip is based around discovering the personal flaws of celebrities. It's an entirely different thing--the standard TMZ story is that Hasselhoff fell off the wagon again or that Brangelina are breaking up. It's a very cynical venture. JFK was a womanizing speed freak--I think his public image was the exact opposite of the celebrity gossip culture. (To be fair, there is, as of yet, no clear evidence that Obama has anywhere near the level of personal flaws that JFK did.)
That's not the culture around Obama, either. The culture around Obama is based on unquestioning admiration. Yes, Kennedy had a cult of personality too, but he didn't live long enough to take advantage of it. In terms of policy, JFK was the same as LBJ except with less emphasis on civil rights--and once you put an uglier face on largely the same policies, you build up enough resentment to elect Nixon.
Atlas. wrote:Joe Biden and his gas station comments and Larry Bird who was a full fledged KKK member.
Joe Biden is a gasbag. Enough said.
Robert Byrd is the senior senator from West Virginia, and a former Klansman. Larry Bird played for the Boston Celtics.