mmmcannibalism wrote:Thread necro much?
Since I never posted my opinion.
Either you recognize animals have human* rights or not. If so, then beyond not eating meat you must agree to not take any action which leads to the killing of an animal. This would require a ban on pesiticides(bugs), and modern farming(obviously tractors and ploughing kill some things) because animals are killed by the machines. So if you want to not eat meat the basis of morality(health concerns being a personal choice) you must also grow all of your own food(or ensure it was personally hand grown and picked).
If not, it is perfectly acceptable to eat animals because they have no right to life.
*human may not be the precisely correct term, my point is there is a separation between the question "is it okay to kill animals " and the question "is it okay to be wantonly cruel to animals".
mmmcannibalism, that's an extreme position not supported by the evidence. For one crucial thing, it is easy to distinguish between the types of animals you are morally willing to kill while you're trying to eat. I know people who have no objection to killing insects, and only a small objection to killing cold-blooded vertebrates, but are against killing birds and mammals. It's fairly easy to find food produced with much reduced mammal and bird death over the amount of bird and mammal death needed to eat birds or mammals. You seem to have completely ignored the most realistic possibility for people who object to any and all animal death: they would like grow their own food or otherwise ensure it hasn't killed any animals, but simply don't have the resources to do so. The impractically of a moral position does not make it philosophically impossible for people to hold those morals.
I have a friend who only eats animals who she knew when they were alive, so there are certainly people who do hold that moral position.stevey_frac wrote:Something since reading this thread, and possibly participating in it (it's been a while) is the idea that we should not eat meat because the meat industry is terrible, and cruel to animals.
Well, I raise you this. My meat is all independently butchered, raised on a farm that I visit regularly, and is treated decently.
There was a bull called bluepoint who, despite being a fairly angry creature in life, tastes absolutely wonderful! Just had a steak from him. It was very tender.
And avoided a lot of the pitfalls of the meat industry. Dead was a gunshot to the head, and quick. Butchered fresh, and frozen immediately. And the animals provided in this fashion are basically leftover animals from the dairy industry, which has no need for male animals, as they don't seem to milk well.
Still immoral? Thoughts?