cphite wrote:Yakk wrote:Because what I'm describing above -- repeated death in an airless frozen void, being crushed to death in a planet of human flesh (or a star or black hole of human flesh), etc -- those are all at best medium term projected consequences of your plan.
You're assuming first of all that "immortality" extends beyond the existence of matter; and that the crystal would grant human flesh some special property that allowed it to exist when all other forms of matter could not
Yes, I am assuming immortality. Not "long life".
If it isn't immortality, things change.
You're assuming, conversely, that the crystal allows death or even harm in the first place.
It was explicitly said that you could still suffer pain in the OP. The OP later came back and said that the vision was of "respawn" -- you die, and you come back unhurt. I presumed your dead flesh would disappear, true, otherwise I could build a black hole factory.
Maybe being immortal means being able to withstand the cold emptiness of space without any discomfort at all? Maybe we don't need heat, food, or such things anymore... We're dealing with magic here, after all.
We still suffer pain. If things that cause pain to humans don't cause pain,what does that mean?
I went with the "you are utterly normal, except you respawn if you die" interpretation the OP posted later. This is better than the worst form of immorality, where you cannot die, but are in no way immune to harm. You rot and decay and fall apart, aware and in pain the entire time.
[quote[And in the countless billions of years before heat death is even an is nonsue, you're assuming that we don't find some means of escape.[/quote]
Or, barring all else, put ourselves into some sort of sleep/status for eternity; either to dream forever, or to simply exist in an unconscious void.
Eternity is too long for anything to last that long. I presumed only immortality (it being the exception that we are considering) would last forever.
We could presume additional magic. But if we are presuming additional magic, why not presume time travel that lets you rescue the ones who refuse to shatter the crystal?
I presumed no additional magic beyond immortality of human flesh.