1136: "Broken Mirror"

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1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby pbnjstowell » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:54 am UTC

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'I see you are in this mood again.' 'I am always in this mood.'

So is BHG a fatalist?

I have to say, I'm more like the roommate.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby rhomboidal » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:55 am UTC

Owie. Even Jesus didn't have to deal with glass in his feet.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:58 am UTC

Is that the first ever full biblical reference in xkcd?

(and, man, why did he have to put this out on a Monday of all days?)
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby pareidolon » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:12 am UTC

"The indifferent hand of probability which governs our lives?"
It's now clear: Randall may draw poetic influence from old Hebrew tests, but his true allegiances lie with the Random Number God.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby alvinhochun » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:18 am UTC

I have no idea how the black hat guy broke the mirror.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Ailina » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:25 am UTC

Seems to me that he missed an easy reference to #220, by not having the alt-text include the roommate threatening Black Hat guy with the super soaker. It would be interesting to see how BHG would react to such an attack on his person.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Miscellane0us » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:27 am UTC

Hopefully BHG didn't see a black cat walk under a ladder, too.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:28 am UTC

Black Hat Guy retiring perhaps?

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:29 am UTC

pbnjstowell wrote:So is BHG a fatalist?

I have to say, I'm more like the roommate.



I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Kepler » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:31 am UTC

So it turns out that BHG is, in fact, Qoholeth.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:40 am UTC

He spends rather too much of his time trying to influence events to be Qoholeth.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby VanI » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:54 am UTC

alvinhochun wrote:I have no idea how the black hat guy broke the mirror.


He was either in pursuit of an end result significantly more anarchic when the mirror was inadvertently broken, or there is a long-term effect of breaking the mirror that only he knows. Either way, we are in the dark right now, and only time will tell what the end-game truly is. Either that, or it was an accident.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Brian-M » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:58 am UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby jpk » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:00 am UTC

Brian-M wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?


It will never be certain that he has in fact retired - or that he has not. Therefore, there will never be a point when you can say that "BHG has retired" and know that you are speaking truly.
Therefore, BHG cannot convincingly retire, if he is in fact unpredictable. (and consistent)

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:02 am UTC

jpk wrote:
Brian-M wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?


It will never be certain that he has in fact retired - or that he has not. Therefore, there will never be a point when you can say that "BHG has retired" and know that you are speaking truly.
Therefore, BHG cannot convincingly retire, if he is in fact unpredictable. (and consistent)



Exactly. Him retiring is him essentially carrying on with messing with us.

It's a paradox my friend. And the BHG cycle continues...

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Carlomagno » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:14 am UTC

jpk wrote:
Brian-M wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?


It will never be certain that he has in fact retired - or that he has not. Therefore, there will never be a point when you can say that "BHG has retired" and know that you are speaking truly.
Therefore, BHG cannot convincingly retire, if he is in fact unpredictable. (and consistent)


So what you're saying is that BHG plays (American) football? Seriously, it's like it's the new thing to be unsure about retiring from the NFL.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby StClair » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:22 am UTC

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby sol_hsa » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:08 am UTC

Am I the only one who read the first line as "COPS" instead of "OOPS" ? That changed the dynamic of the comic quite a bit..

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby WolfieMario » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:11 am UTC

Ailina wrote:Seems to me that he missed an easy reference to #220, by not having the alt-text include the roommate threatening Black Hat guy with the super soaker. It would be interesting to see how BHG would react to such an attack on his person.

I immediately thought of 220 too.
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I'd also be interested in seeing how that plays out; anyone can feel free to throw in panels. 3AM, so I was too tired to draw hatless guy aiming a supersoaker at BHG.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:03 am UTC

Black Hat Guy is Eeyore in human form.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Klear » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:07 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:Black Hat Guy is Eeyore in human form.


That's because Eeyore is a human in a donkey form.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby philip1201 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:12 am UTC

Brian-M wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?


Retirement is uncharacteristically low-entropy. BHG's micro-state (i.e. his particular shenanigans) is unpredictable, and because of this, we can predict a macro-state of non-retirement.
If we could not predict BHG's macro-state, then we could predict with higher accuracy his micro-state. (unless you consider a D6 equally "predictable" as a D20).

The apparent paradox arises from the fact that unpredictability is statistically impossible, but "unpredictability" is still an existing word which is used as consistently as anything in the English language. Whichever way we extrapolate the word "unpredictable" to precise statistical-physical definitions, it allows us to make very precise predictions about particular sets from among all possibilities*. So there is nothing inconsistent about predicting the behavior of people who are called "unpredictable".

* For example, I assign 99% probability that BHG's next appearance will include at least one "e" in the text, and I assigfn 0.999999999999999% probability that the next BHG comic will NOT involve Mona Lisa doing a blackflip off the back of Curiosity (note: these probabilities don't include the effects of this post).

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby rv77ax » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:04 am UTC

How high are you Munroe?

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby AvatarIII » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:28 am UTC

rhomboidal wrote:Owie. Even Jesus didn't have to deal with glass in his feet.


You're right, but you know who did? John McClane.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby tsadi » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:30 am UTC

Logged in just to say that I totally Googled "eccles 9:2" to make sure I wasn't dreaming about BHG quoting the bible, LOL.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby carega » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:15 pm UTC

I just would like to know why in hell are mirror shards floating in the air and how did the mirror broke. it's very confusing.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby peewee_RotA » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:37 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:You're right, but you know who did? John McClane.


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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Whizbang » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:45 pm UTC

carega wrote:I just would like to know why in hell are mirror shards floating in the air and how did the mirror broke. it's very confusing.

I believe the stuff on the wall is the wallpaper/drywall that got shredded when the mirror fell. The mirror was glued to the wall, and so when the mirror fell, the glue tore the wallpaper/drywall.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Eebster the Great » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:21 pm UTC

Kepler wrote:So it turns out that BHG is, in fact, Qoholeth.
Eutychus wrote:He spends rather too much of his time trying to influence events to be Qoholeth.

Qoheleth wasn't a fatalist. The quote simply referred to the fact that the wicked do not always suffer nor the good prosper, as the prophets and Proverbs would have him believe. Ecclesiastes is an irreligious text, but not a hopeless one.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Rann Xerox » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:03 pm UTC

"Who can gaze into the mirror without becoming evil? The mirror does not reflect evil, but creates it."

- Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost in the Shell: Innocence"

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:31 pm UTC

tsadi wrote:Logged in just to say that I totally Googled "eccles 9:2" to make sure I wasn't dreaming about BHG quoting the bible, LOL.

I thought it was from the recently discovered gospel according to Eccles from the Goon Show.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Nathan » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:47 pm UTC

"The visible universe is an illusion, or more precisely, a sophism. Mirrors and fatherhood are hateful because they multiply it and propagate it." --freely translated from Jorge Luis Borges

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Envelope Generator » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:04 pm UTC

What BHG is actually breaking in this strip: character.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby motiz88 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:49 pm UTC

Shades of Terry Pratchett. This reminds me of the scene in Mort where Death goes gambling.
(Plus, maybe it's the all caps, but I'm finding it really easy to picture Death saying MY FATE IS AS THESE SHARDS in one of his gloomier moments)

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Diadem » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:13 pm UTC

sol_hsa wrote:Am I the only one who read the first line as "COPS" instead of "OOPS" ? That changed the dynamic of the comic quite a bit..

Yeah.

I spent the entire strip wondering what the hell police had to do with anything. Kinda ruined an otherwise excellent comic.
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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Quake » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:16 pm UTC

What do we have ?

Black Hat Guy
A Bible-citation
A dressing table ( IKEA?)
A crushed vanity mirror

Maybe
A scent of Post-Secular Feminism ?

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Garzahd1 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:43 pm UTC

The last panel has an extra bonus joke for those who have actually read Ecclesiastes (which I did as a kid, mostly so I could point and laugh at people who take the bible too seriously).

Ecclesiastes 12:8 - "Vanity of vanities, says the preacher; all is vanity."

(some non-King-James translations use 'meaningless' or 'useless' instead)

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby Rand » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:52 pm UTC

Amazing comic.

And I was pretty sure Black Hat guy was actually Bokonon. He and Koheleth chat a lot.

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Re: 1136: "Broken Mirror"

Postby ijuin » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:58 am UTC

philip1201 wrote:
Brian-M wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I'm not so sure about that. The one and only thing we can confirm about BHG is that he's unpredictable.


He will never retire.


So you're saying that he's unpredictable, and you're predicting that he'll never retire?


Retirement is uncharacteristically low-entropy. BHG's micro-state (i.e. his particular shenanigans) is unpredictable, and because of this, we can predict a macro-state of non-retirement.
If we could not predict BHG's macro-state, then we could predict with higher accuracy his micro-state. (unless you consider a D6 equally "predictable" as a D20).

The question is one of from what BHG would retire. Retire from whatever day job he does to make money to pay the bills? Possibly he will someday. Retire from playing mindgames with people and society for fun? Almost certainly not. However, if he retires from his day job, he will in fact have MORE time available in which to mess with people.


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