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1045: "Constraints"

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:18 am UTC
by itsa_wallaby
Image
http://xkcd.com/1045/

Title-text: [title-text similiarly alphabetized]


(Edit: Sorry I keep screwing up guys!)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:20 am UTC
by scotty2haughty
stuck in my head forever.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:20 am UTC
by iabervon
A bit contrived. Doesn't everybody find guidelines help ideas? Just keeping lengths minimized never opens possibilities. Quite reversely, since the users verily will Xerox your zeitgeist.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:21 am UTC
by suso
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Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:34 am UTC
by Number3Pencils
The title-text actually says "similiarly" instead of "similarly".

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:34 am UTC
by qvasi
iabervon wrote:A bit contrived. Doesn't everybody find guidelines help ideas? Just keeping lengths minimized never opens possibilities. Quite reversely, since the users verily will Xerox your zeitgeist.


+1
:D

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:49 am UTC
by JWA1010
Douglas Hofstadter would find this comic amusing....

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:49 am UTC
by AndyClaw
Fix the typo or a cute kitten dies. Either that or a part of my inner being.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:01 am UTC
by yaliceme
qvasi wrote:
iabervon wrote:A bit contrived. Doesn't everybody find guidelines help ideas? Just keeping lengths minimized never opens possibilities. Quite reversely, since the users verily will Xerox your zeitgeist.


+1
:D


+2

;-)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:06 am UTC
by Eternal Density
Understand this, I don't.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:12 am UTC
by Linux0s
Woha!

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:23 am UTC
by mconor
Eternal Density wrote:Understand this, I don't.


yeah same here...

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:24 am UTC
by Eutychus
Eternal Density wrote:Understand this, I don't.

Zoom your x-ray, wide-angle vision up to see Randall's quirky positioning of nouns; merely look keenly, just investigating how getting fiddly etymological deployment can be awesome.

(I'm no good at this)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:27 am UTC
by 18chai
Failing to give yourself a challenge in writing a reversely-alphabetized epigram would be "The Path Of Least.... Contention?"

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:05 am UTC
by SpringLoaded12
It took me a minute to realize what she was saying was self-demonstrating.

Here's a fun one: http://bash.org/?406381.

(In case you didn't notice, each word is one letter longer than the previous one.)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:05 am UTC
by Waladil
Panel 2: Brevity is the soul of wit.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:10 am UTC
by glasnt
SpringLoaded12 wrote:It took me a minute to realize what she was saying was self-demonstrating.

Here's a fun one: http://bash.org/?406381.

(In case you didn't notice, each word is one letter longer than the previous one.)

Came here to post this.

Instead, I'm just here to say what's in my sig.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:18 am UTC
by obarey
Here is the explanation:

Spoiler:
The second panel is an epigram with reverse alphabetization. Check the order of first letters.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:23 am UTC
by penguinreference
Panel 2 has 135 characters (inc. spaces, punctuation). Might be intentional.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:35 am UTC
by Red Hal
A budding poet? Three frames were too many here, two would have sufficed. Constrained language rules, especially in prose, can unleash ideas.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:44 am UTC
by hwillis19
SpringLoaded12 wrote:Here's a fun one: http://bash.org/?406381.

(In case you didn't notice, each word is one letter longer than the previous one.)

And it has a far happier outcome than than http://xkcd.com/276/

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:26 am UTC
by sonalita
Waladil wrote:Panel 2: Brevity is the soul of wit.

I see you miss the point of the whole comic. Look closely at the first letter of each word in the statement in the second panel. Do you see a pattern? A pattern relating to the statement being made?

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:23 am UTC
by daumbay
Eutychus wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:Understand this, I don't.

Zoom your x-ray, wide-angle vision up to see Randall's quirky positioning of nouns; merely look keenly, just investigating how getting fiddly etymological deployment can be awesome.

(I'm no good at this)


It took me 2 readings, your explanation and 5 more readings to finally understand the strip. :D

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:30 am UTC
by Chrisfs
I figure the 'w' in working is pronounced in the German style, as a 'v'

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:34 am UTC
by chiggerfruit
Ooh this one was very good. Reminds me of the "I'm so meta even this acronym" comic.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:47 am UTC
by Hamsvlekiss
Oh . . . that's it? :|

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:50 am UTC
by da Doctah
What's scary is that it's possible to get into a groove where you actually produce sentences like that without thinking about it. It happens to people who compose a lot of haiku.

And back when I was reading Edmund Spenser's "The Faerie Queene", I found myself thinking automatically in iambic pentameter.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:31 am UTC
by VectorZero
Chrisfs wrote:I figure the 'w' in working is pronounced in the German style, as a 'v'
Why? That's not required.
da Doctah wrote:I found myself thinking automatically in iambic pentameter.
Oh joyous day, you passed the test. You're hired.

Incidentally, I really liked the title-text :)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:49 am UTC
by OliverJXavier
Constraints are used by artists to inspire creativity. Igor Stravinsky wrote:
My freedom thus consists in my moving about within the narrow frame that I have assigned myself for each one of my undertakings. I shall go even further: my freedom will be so much the greater and more meaningful, the more narrowly I limit my field of action and the more I surround myself with obstacles. Whatever diminishes constraint, diminishes strength. The more constraints one imposes, the more one frees one’s self of the chains that shackle the spirit.

[Igor Stravinsky. Poetics of Music in the form of six lessons. Harvard University Press, 1947.]

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:07 am UTC
by Red Hal
da Doctah wrote:What's scary is that it's possible to get into a groove where you actually produce sentences like that without thinking about it. It happens to people who compose a lot of haiku.
*cough*

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:49 am UTC
by sonalita
Chrisfs wrote:I figure the 'w' in working is pronounced in the German style, as a 'v'


It's the words that are reverse dictionary sorted - there's also 3 words that start with E but they're all in reverse dictionary order still.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:40 am UTC
by radtea
Zach, your xylophone wasn't tuned so Reggie quit putting on new music, leaving key jobs incompletely handled, giving fans excessive downers caused by arrogance.

Form is liberating: http://greenteadoodles.wordpress.com (beautiful images frequently juxtaposed with formal poetry.)

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:04 pm UTC
by meerta
Two rather off-the-wall xkcds in a row. I like it.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:04 pm UTC
by Shidoshi
This is beautiful (and alphabetized).

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:08 pm UTC
by Alfonzo227
I now find myself very carefully reading everybody's comment to see if they've done something clever.
A note to others doing the same: this is not one of those comments.

A +1 to all the clever comments, that's why I love xkcd and all its fans.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:19 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Backward:
Vacate my head, cartoonist!

Forward:
Depart from my noggin, Randall!

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:24 pm UTC
by lens
A treasure trove of constrained writing: http://www.cadaeic.net/
- Pilish - each word in a piece has the same number of letters as the corresponding digit of Pi
- A poem of 109 letters, related to the periodic table
- Anagrams
- Palindromes...

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:31 pm UTC
by BrianB
itsa_wallaby wrote:Alt-text: [title-text similarly alphabetized]


Here, let me correct that for you...

Title-text: [title-text similarly alphabetized]

Even Randall told you what it's supposed to be called. Now, everyone get with the program!

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:56 pm UTC
by Plasma Man
I could actually feel my mind being blown when this clicked for me. Excellent.

Re: 1045: Constraints

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:58 pm UTC
by Nylonathatep
I wonder if Randall is also working under these constraints when he draw xkcd comics.