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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Super Crap » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:26 pm UTC

He let the retard write this one.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:26 pm UTC

PM 2Ring wrote:I also found this comic a little confusing, but it's never easy keeping up with the Joneses.

:lol:

An actual :ROFL: smiley is urgently missing here.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby SocialSceneRepairman » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:36 pm UTC

Wait, the daughter hired a stripper... while the father's mistress (possibly an actual housekeeper?) has come as a French maid... while... um... not sure about that last one. Same story as the father, only either he's an actual plumber making a hamhanded double entendre, or he's picked a much less fetishized occupation. Then again, I'm not sure they actually dress up male strippers as pizza boys, either.

...or maybe they're an actual plumber, maid, and pizza boy, but that wouldn't explain why they're all so confused.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:14 pm UTC

cream wobbly wrote:It helps to understand that this is not the convention. You are very good at noticing that. Jolly well done. I was raising it because.

(1) Your statements above are incoherent. Nothing personal, I just have no idea what you're trying to communicate to me.
(2) #78 doesn't make much sense to me no matter *which* way I read it. I suspect it's a type of humor I just don't like.

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uncivlengr wrote:None of that addresses the salient point: if they were all porn actors arriving for the first time to a set, they wouldn't be already acting their roles.

I would kindly request that you go back and read the rest of my comment, which does indeed address the point. My third paragraph, after the second quote block.
uncivlengr wrote:If they were strippers, though, they would be.

I again refer you to my comment, specifically the numbered list of reasons why that doesn't make any particular sense, either.
uncivlengr wrote:Nothing about this strip conveys that they're porn actors ...

If one wants to take a literalist approach, nothing in this strip conveys they are strippers, either. Maybe the daughter's party is upstairs, so she ordered a pizza, and left the door unlocked. The maid was on her regular schedule. When pizza guy comes in, they're surprised at each other. And Ms. Jones forgot she called the plumber. All three of them start playing a game. There's no reason to suppose they're also porn actors or strippers.
uncivlengr wrote:... even if it did, it still wouldn't make any sense.

That I agree with.

Of course, just to be clear: We're talking about a comic where a flying ferret rescues a boy floating in barrel, and a stick-figure has traveled through time and made love to themselves. Logic is obviously of supreme importance.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby PM 2Ring » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:25 pm UTC

Thanks, Monika.

Belial wrote:Alternately, they're not strippers, they're porn-movie-characters (not actors, characters).

This interpretation makes the most sense, as far as I can tell.

It's kind of like a Holosuite malfunction.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby big boss » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:28 pm UTC

PM 2Ring wrote:Thanks, Monika.

Belial wrote:Alternately, they're not strippers, they're porn-movie-characters (not actors, characters).

This interpretation makes the most sense, as far as I can tell.

It's kind of like a Holosuite malfunction.


Darn some1 posted tat idea before me. At first I was confused by the comic, but i think the porn interpretation makes sense
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby ddxxdd » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:57 pm UTC

Here's actually what happened.

The Pizza Guy escort was hired by the daughter cause she was having a party and she wasn't expecting anyone to be home. The French Maid was hired by the father because he was gonna be home early and wasn't expecting anyone to be home. The Plumber was hired by the mother for reasons undisclosed; everybody said "Sorry, there's been a mix up" before he gave his explanation.

So here we are, with 3 escorts, hired by 3 members of the same family, each of them thinking that they were being furtive with their chicanery. 2 of the 3 members of the family come home, shocked that not only have they been caught ordering a hooker, and not only have they caught everyone else ordering a hooker, but the 3 hookers are playing a nerd's game.

Then again, while typing this, I just realized that my argument's refuted by the fact that Mr. Jones and Mrs. Jones came home together. Perhaps the 3 family members were expecting a salacious orgy but instead found themselves watching an unorthodox activity for paid escorts.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Ynuu » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:59 pm UTC

I thought the comic was funny, but the replies here have been hilarious. They kinda remind me of the Futurama episode where Fry and Leela get superpowers, during the mugging scene:

(Mugger tells some story then pulls a gun)
Fry & Leela: Hey I don't buy that story at all!
Mugger: It doesn't matter, I'm mugging you.
Fry: There's no bus to Jersey city.
Mugger: I'm MUGGING you.

and so on

except here, it's

(Fairly obvious porn set-up)
Comments: Hey, that's not how you hold up a pizza box!
(Continuation of porn)
Comments: And that maid's uniform doesn't look realistic at all!
(MORE PORN)
Comments: And that's not even how you play Agricola...

I dunno, it was funny to me. Maybe you guys should watch more porn.

Edit: Upon a (glancing) closer look this is more relevant to the first page replies but there ya go...

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby car_ramrod » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:16 pm UTC

Frankly I'm shocked at how many people did not get that this was a prono reference. In fact, it could not have been more obvious...

I found the comic pretty funny, but I agree the comments are better. Futurama reference is bang on.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby car_ramrod » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:28 pm UTC

jbn wrote:
echoechoecho wrote:I signed up to this forum to make this very important observation.

Is that pizza guy holding the pizza SIDEWAYS?!


Yes he is. Do you think a porn actor actually has any knowledge of the correct way to deliver pizza?


Seriously? Holding a pizza box with the top up isn't exactly something that requires extensive "knowledge". I doubt that day one of pizza delivery training would include a session entitled "Don't hold the box like this". Isn't it just common sense?

Also, I think the box is drawn like that on purpose to show that the delivery guy is dejected after finding out that his scenario is a bust, as in the prop pizza no longer matters, so he can hold it however he likes.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby alahos » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:31 pm UTC

Just top this comic with canned laughs (and canned applause when the archetypal characters make their entrance) and it so makes my day.

Also, I once held a pizza box sideways when i was 13. A life lesson indeed.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby mcv » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:56 pm UTC

Ynuu wrote:(Fairly obvious porn set-up)
Comments: Hey, that's not how you hold up a pizza box!
(Continuation of porn)
Comments: And that maid's uniform doesn't look realistic at all!
(MORE PORN)
Comments: And that's not even how you play Agricola...

I don't see what's wrong with how they play Agricola.

Also, Agricola is not a nerd game. My whole family loves playing it. It admit, I come from a nerd family, but I've also given it to some non-nerd friends, who like it. (Though they haven't actually gotten around to playing it much. I'm not helping my point here, am I?)

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Black » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:04 pm UTC

Ynuu wrote:(Fairly obvious porn set-up)
Comments: Hey, that's not how you hold up a pizza box!
(Continuation of porn)
Comments: And that maid's uniform doesn't look realistic at all!
(MORE PORN)
Comments: And that's not even how you play Agricola...

I dunno, it was funny to me. Maybe you guys should watch more porn.

Edit: Upon a (glancing) closer look this is more relevant to the first page replies but there ya go...


Except that doesn't make sense. Set up for porn? Is this a movie shoot or is it someone's house? If it is a shoot, then why are they not acting like actors? Why is the punchline a token nerd reference *out of nowhere* if the point was pornography gone wacky and humorous?

Who says "What the" WHEN THERE ARE STRANGERS IN THEIR HOUSE. But wait, apparently they were all scheduled to be at the house? Why wasn't anyone home? Nothing makes sense. It's not even surreal for humorous effect. It's just convoluted and confused, like the author was trying to make too many jokes at the same time.

Nothing makes sense. You can say "Oh, it was supposed to be about stereotypical porno", I'll admit, that looks like what it is. But it *still* doesn't make sense and the joke is not there. It does not exist. It is as if its only purpose was to make an agricola reference.

Did I mention nothing makes sense?

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Zylon » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:45 pm UTC

Guys, stop. If anyone actually figures this strip out, Cenobites will show up and drag us all to the Labyrinth.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby lesmith11 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:16 pm UTC

scottyb wrote:Should I be ashamed of getting the comic in panel 1?

Have I said too much?


No I don't think it was that difficult to get

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:52 pm UTC

Black wrote:It is as if its only purpose was to make an agricola reference.

Hmmm, I think you may be on to something there. Call Dr. Watson and Inspector Lestrade! ;-)
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Iridos » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:10 pm UTC

Ok, I didn't get it either... but as now the joke has been over-explained and then over-explained again, lets say that kind of looks like it could have been a scene of PGPORN... like http://www.spike.com/video/pg-porn-pg-porn/3041858 or perhaps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxb7b0jG ... verified=1

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Chfan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:14 pm UTC

I thought this one was funny, but it lacked some punch. I don't really care if the scenario itself makes sense as long as it's funny, which it was. But having them play a board game- especially one as obscure as agricola- took away from the joke. Having the game be agricola added nothing to the joke if you don't know what it is and even if you do, I think there could have been a funnier ending than "they all play a board game."
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby t-note » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:22 pm UTC

Zylon wrote:Guys, stop. If anyone actually figures this strip out, Cenobites will show up and drag us all to the Labyrinth.


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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby clanders » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:37 pm UTC

Hahaha at first you think its gunna be a porno but then THEY PLAY A BOARD GAME!!! Komedy GOLD

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Kalos » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:18 pm UTC

Is there some weird aspect about the board game that makes this joke funny? Or is settlers of C'tan just too mainstream for proper nerdism?

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Steve the Pocket » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:31 pm UTC

This sounds like one of those things where the writer came up with the core idea, was really intent on using it, but then couldn't figure out how to make a working joke out of it, but cranked out a strip anyway because he really wanted to use the idea somehow. I've seen this before; D.C. Simpson used to do this almost every Sunday back when Ozy and Millie still had Sunday strips.

Black wrote:It is as if its only purpose was to make an agricola reference.


Also that. Randall is in danger of turning into one of those people who writes for nerds and assumes all he has to do is shoehorn in references to things nerds like in order to stay popular. The difference is, he has people who are only too willing to call him on it right here in his own forum.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby BytEfLUSh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:55 am UTC

I didn't get the joke until I read viewtopic.php?f=7&t=63263&start=40#p2273434 (well, I only understood it had something to do with porn industry). Thanks for explaining it! :)
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Super Crap » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:02 am UTC

Hey, I figured out how to make this joke funny:

First you need to have the neutral, generic stick-boy character in this comic. He shows up at the house and the maid is doing her porn thing and is like, "Master is not supposed to be this early! Haha, hi, I'm glad you decided to *come* here." The generic stick boy is confused, but sort of like intrigued, then the porn pizza guy and plumber show up. THEN they all sit down and play agricola. THEN they're all like, Maid: "That was fun, let's do this again sometime." Pizza Guy: "Thanks for inviting me." Plumber: "Maybe next time we can play Stratego." and everyone goes home.

Then the generic stickboy is in a neutral setting talking to a friend and says, "That was the freakiest blind date I've ever been on."

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby facefive » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:48 am UTC

lol, i thought this was a CS joke about multitasking

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:23 am UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:Randall is in danger of turning into one of those people who writes for nerds and assumes all he has to do is shoehorn in references to things nerds like in order to stay popular.

I think that's a tad harsh.

Was this the best xkcd ever? Hell no. Clearly a significant number of people were confused and/or didn't get it and/or just didn't think it was funny. So Randall turned in a stinker. That happens. It's not the end of the website as we know it.

P.S.: In practically every xkcd discussion, there are some people saying they don't like it, and that clearly means xkcd is declining/has jumped the shark/etc. And in practically every one of *those*, there are people like me saying it's no big deal.

I'm not going anywhere with this, I just like pointing out the obvious.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Stanistani » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:26 am UTC

You know, it's just possible the comic is meant to be randomly silly. Just a theory. Don't hurt me! :shock:

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby neoliminal » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:31 am UTC

It is wrong to be aroused by a stick-figure faux french accented maid with a feather duster from a comic?
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Platypodes » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:03 am UTC

Belial wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:Alternately, they're not strippers, they're porn-movie-characters (not actors, characters).

That's how I took it.

You know how in porn, everything seems to coincidentally just happen at exactly the right moment? The viewer knows it's scripted that way, but from the characters' point of view, it's as if the gods are magically arranging hot sex scenarios for them.

Now, imagine that the porn gods goofed it up. So instead of the hot pizza guy showing up at the daughter's party, or the husband coming home and surprising the maid, or the plumber finding the wife alone in the house, the pizza guy and maid and plumber all show up at once when none of the Joneses are there.

Since this is not how things usually happen in porn-land, they get confused, get distracted from lustful urges, and drop into doing something totally un-porn-like (playing a board game).

Then the Joneses come home and are confused (as anyone, whether in porn-land or in the real world, would be) to see a hot pizza guy, a hot plumber, and a naughty french maid sitting on their living room floor playing a board game.

...

I find the scenario funny, but it took me a couple readings to sort it out. Definitely a bit hard to follow this one.

I think it might have played better if, instead of Agricola, they'd picked up something really ordinary like Scrabble or Monopoly. Having it be a geek game with geek references starts a whole train of thought that distracts from the basic funny image of a bunch of porn characters sitting around playing a board game instead of getting it on.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby xtifr » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:11 am UTC

Kalos wrote:Is there some weird aspect about the board game that makes this joke funny?

Yes. Sort of. The alt text only works with this game. Or maybe Dungeon Lords, which has the "happy room" where you can send two imps and spend a food and get a new imp, but that's even more obscure.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:22 am UTC

Platypodes wrote:Now, imagine that the porn gods goofed it up.

Hmmm. That actually makes sense (for certain values of "sense"). I like it. Too bad it took me this long to get here.

BTW, props for the phrase "porn gods". It amused me.
I think it might have played better if, instead of Agricola, they'd picked up something really ordinary like Scrabble...

Could work. Maybe after the plumber enters, they all just kind of stare awkwardly at each other for a minute in silence. One of them says, "So... now what?" Another long pause. Then, "Anyone for Scrabble?"

Might be hard to pull off in a comic, though.

P.S.: Hmmm. In a live act, you could have the bom chicka wow wow porn music play when pizza-guy first enters, then do the needle-pulled-off-the-record thing when pizza-guy and maid see each other. Then repeat the music gag when plumber enters.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby ritvax » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:29 am UTC

Oh man, if this is the Jones house, suprised the Devil didn't walk in during the last panel. "I'm looking to get into, er, a Miss Jones?"

Any good porn historian knows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil_in_Miss_Jones
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Faranya » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:53 am UTC

uncivlengr wrote:None of that addresses the salient point: if they were all porn actors arriving for the first time to a set, they wouldn't be already acting their roles.

If they were strippers, though, they would be. Nothing about this strip conveys that they're porn actors, and even if it did, it still wouldn't make any sense.

God damn people, they are not actors, they are people in a reality which behaves as though porn movies were realistic, meaning he is a pizza delivery guy, she is a maid, and he is a plumber, and in the reality of the comic all of those professions result in sex with their clients for some reason.

I don't understand why this is so confusing.

Let's take comic 716 for instance. The man in the comic is not an actor on set of a time-travel based movie, he is a real person in a reality where time travel is possible.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby tNok85 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:53 am UTC

At first I thought that it was an honest (and POSSIBLY realistic mistake).

Stripper dressed up as a pizza guy for a bachelorette party comes to the wrong house, where the wife role playing as a French maid (Mon Dieu, monsieur) waiting for her husband to get hmoe. So I was kind of following it. Then the plumber showed up, and it went to "wtf?" territory. Then we see the husband and wife (I assume) walk in, and it throws a wrench into the entire thing.

So, yeah, I don't get it. I get all the reference, I just don't get why it's funny.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby lethesoda » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:56 am UTC

Faranya wrote:
uncivlengr wrote:None of that addresses the salient point: if they were all porn actors arriving for the first time to a set, they wouldn't be already acting their roles.

If they were strippers, though, they would be. Nothing about this strip conveys that they're porn actors, and even if it did, it still wouldn't make any sense.

God damn people, they are not actors, they are people in a reality which behaves as though porn movies were realistic, meaning he is a pizza delivery guy, she is a maid, and he is a plumber, and in the reality of the comic all of those professions result in sex with their clients for some reason.

I don't understand why this is so confusing.

Let's take comic 716 for instance. The man in the comic is not an actor on set of a time-travel based movie, he is a real person in a reality where time travel is possible.


I plead Slovotsky's Law 16, sirrah!

They are strippers/incarnations of porn and stripper stereotypes, brought about by the unseen young Mr. Jones who is explaining to a friend what goes on when he leaves his Agricola set at home.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby posiduck » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:44 am UTC

Faranya wrote:
Let's take comic 716 for instance. The man in the comic is not an actor on set of a time-travel based movie, he is a real person in a reality where time travel is possible.


The man in comic 716 is actually fictional.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby sophomore » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:52 am UTC

DragonHawk wrote:Hmmm. That actually makes sense (for certain values of "sense"). I like it. Too bad it took me this long to get here.


I don't know if suspension of disbelief is generally supposed to apply in comics. I think it is, which is kind of why the "character" approach was my first take on the comic. I generally assume that unless the author tells me otherwise, I am viewing things from a character's perspective (omniscient or otherwise.)

I also am not sure if an anticlimax presents humor to a minority or not (pun not initially intended.) If so, I'm in that minority. I don't find the humor of the comic to be the game reference insomuch as the game reference allowed the title text.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:51 am UTC

tNok85 wrote:At first I thought that it was an honest (and POSSIBLY realistic mistake).

Stripper dressed up as a pizza guy for a bachelorette party comes to the wrong house, where the wife role playing as a French maid (Mon Dieu, monsieur) waiting for her husband to get hmoe. So I was kind of following it. Then the plumber showed up, and it went to "wtf?" territory. Then we see the husband and wife (I assume) walk in, and it throws a wrench into the entire thing.

So, yeah, I don't get it. I get all the reference, I just don't get why it's funny.

If you identify the first two characters as a stripper and Mrs. Jones, then, no, you don't get all the references. You get… less than half, to the extent that they can be counted.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby tNok85 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:06 am UTC

TheGrammarBolshevik wrote:
tNok85 wrote:At first I thought that it was an honest (and POSSIBLY realistic mistake).

Stripper dressed up as a pizza guy for a bachelorette party comes to the wrong house, where the wife role playing as a French maid (Mon Dieu, monsieur) waiting for her husband to get hmoe. So I was kind of following it. Then the plumber showed up, and it went to "wtf?" territory. Then we see the husband and wife (I assume) walk in, and it throws a wrench into the entire thing.

So, yeah, I don't get it. I get all the reference, I just don't get why it's funny.

If you identify the first two characters as a stripper and Mrs. Jones, then, no, you don't get all the references. You get… less than half, to the extent that they can be counted.


So in the first two panels, you immediately figured out that it WASN'T a stripper, and the maid WAS DEFINITELY NOT actually Mrs. Jones? I applaud you.

I walked you through my thought process upon my first reading. I get all the ideas listed here. I just don't think any of them are funny, if any of them are correct.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:20 am UTC

tNok85 wrote:So in the first two panels, you immediately figured out that it WASN'T a stripper, and the maid WAS DEFINITELY NOT actually Mrs. Jones? I applaud you.

It's not so much that I ruled out those possibilities as that they had no reason to cross my mind. "Pizza guy with a big dick" and "sexy maid" are common porn plots. "Pizza guy who is a stripper" isn't anything; neither is "wife who is also a maid for some reason and refers to her husband by his last name."

So, yeah. It's not funny because your interpretation of the characters was off. And I have a feeling it still won't be funny now, since you maybe aren't familiar with the tropes involved. Especially since, no, it wasn't that funny to begin with, and suffers from some of the layout problems that others have noted.
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