0775: "Savannah Ancestry"

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0775: "Savannah Ancestry"

Postby Armitando » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:39 am UTC

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Alt attribute: She's a perfectly nice lady from a beautiful city, and there's no reason to be mean just because she thinks a quarterback is a river in Egypt.

http://xkcd.com/775/

Oh, your mom jokes...

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Eebster the Great » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:40 am UTC

You may have been one second earlier, but my image was so much more prettily hyperlinked.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Hamsvlekiss » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:41 am UTC

(I am among the) first!

And now a generic comment on the comic to keep this post from being deleted. Haha, pun, yes, very funny, wot wot.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby unus vox » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:42 am UTC

Bleh, both of you beat me. :P

About the comic: decent. Not particularly witty, though something about it seems reminiscent of the Marx Brothers
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby s0merand0mdude » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:44 am UTC

Can someone explain to me how someone can confuse a quarterback with a river in Egypt?
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Hamsvlekiss » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:45 am UTC

Yeah, I'm not seeing it either, s0me.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Mr. Burke » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:46 am UTC

Well, you guys are just in denial.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Hamsvlekiss » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:48 am UTC

See, THAT I get. :mrgreen:

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby SocialSceneRepairman » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:49 am UTC

Just to point out: humans evolved in the Sahara, or possibly in Southwest Asia or even Southern Europe. Chimps, our closest modern relatives, are mostly found further south, but that's because of the mass deforestation in the Sahara around the 7th millenium BCE (we didn't invent it; we just do it faster), but the distribution of early artifacts suggests that our common ancestors lived thereabout when we became who we are.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Eternal Density » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:53 am UTC

The place 'Savannah' sounds like the word 'savanna', how kind of you to point that out Randall. :P
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby from canada » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:58 am UTC

Um, so who wants to go back to 774 and agrue some more?

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:02 am UTC

SocialSceneRepairman wrote:Just to point out: humans evolved in the Sahara, or possibly in Southwest Asia or even Southern Europe.
[citation needed]

Also, regardless of where exactly H. sapiens evolved, is it not true to describe the landscape at that time as savanna?
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Chfan » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:09 am UTC

That was really not funny or well-executed at all.
Just FYI, the guy isn't avatar isn't me. But he seems pretty cool.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby syko_lozz » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:16 am UTC

almost seems like he wanted to inflame another fight thread...
i)girls vs boys at maths
ii)validity of evo-psych
iii) the lameness of 'your mum' jokes

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby iamevn » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:19 am UTC

Chfan wrote:That was really not funny or well-executed at all.


I am inclined to agree, could someone explain it just in case I'm missing something?
(or is the joke really that Savannah sounds like savanna?)

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:21 am UTC

Why are people insisting on some kind of difference between savannah and savanna?
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby arjadre » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:23 am UTC

Google reveals through Wikipedia that there once was a great quarterback named Nile Kinnick.

I do take issue with the way the comic was drawn, though. The stuff on the whiteboard looks like a one-point perspective fail in relation to the outline of the whiteboard itself.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Mr. Burke » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:30 am UTC

arjadre wrote:Google reveals through Wikipedia that there once was a great quarterback named Nile Kinnick.

Which makes the “joke” similar to saying that a Firefly actress is a season. Funny, 'tis not.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby jkoper » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:33 am UTC

Here's my interpretation of the title text:

A dumb person would think that denial is a river in Egypt.
A dumb person would also think that a quarterback is change for a 75-cent burrito at Taco Bell, or something of that nature.
A really dumb person, like the character's mother, would think that a quarterback is a river in Egypt, or perhaps that denial is the aforementioned change.

I don't think it's a particularly funny comic, but that's my take on it.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby bhamv » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:34 am UTC

The alt text is a mish-mash of two separate "your mamma" jokes.

Your mamma's so stupid she thinks a quarterback is a refund.
Your mamma's so stupid she thinks denial is a river in Egypt.

Basically, the mother in question is REALLY stupid.

/joke explained

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby glasnt » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:38 am UTC

Is he trying to say that someone born in (underpriviledged area) is predispositioned to be not as well off as someone born in (pansy place here)?


Oh.


I shouldn't say I went to (not superior university), then :(

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:40 am UTC

glasnt wrote:Is he trying to say that someone born in (underpriviledged area) is predispositioned to be not as well off as someone born in (pansy place here)?
What?
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby iamevn » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:45 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote:Why are people insisting on some kind of difference between savannah and savanna?

the consensus in this thread seems to be that Savannah is city in Georgia and savanna is a grassland-type thing
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_(disambiguation)

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:47 am UTC

iamevn wrote:the consensus in this thread seems to be that Savannah is city in Georgia and savanna is a grassland-type thing
Well yeah, but the grassland-type thing can also be spelled with an 'h', in which case the pun is blatantly obvious.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby arjadre » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:50 am UTC

Here's my interpretation of the title text:

A dumb person would think that denial is a river in Egypt.
A dumb person would also think that a quarterback is change for a 75-cent burrito at Taco Bell, or something of that nature.
A really dumb person, like the character's mother, would think that a quarterback is a river in Egypt, or perhaps that denial is the aforementioned change.


Nice. Indeed, further inspection of the Wikipedia article on Nile Kinnick reveals that he was a halfback rather than quarterback.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Mr. Burke » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:51 am UTC

jkoper wrote:Here's my interpretation of the title text:

A dumb person would think that denial is a river in Egypt.
A dumb person would also think that a quarterback is change for a 75-cent burrito at Taco Bell, or something of that nature.
A really dumb person, like the character's mother, would think that a quarterback is a river in Egypt, or perhaps that denial is the aforementioned change.

I don't think it's a particularly funny comic, but that's my take on it.

Oh, I get it.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Time Kitten » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:53 am UTC

I've seen savanna(h) spelled with an 'h' at the end more often than not. I'd accept savannah as a correct spelling, and probably spell it as such myself.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby syko_lozz » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:54 am UTC

bhamv wrote:The alt text is a mish-mash of two separate "your mamma" jokes.

Your mamma's so stupid she thinks a quarterback is a refund.
Your mamma's so stupid she thinks denial is a river in Egypt.

Basically, the mother in question is REALLY stupid.

/joke explained


ahhh, that makes sense. that was a little obscure!
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Steve the Pocket » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:08 am UTC

I'd never heard the expression "savanna ancestry" before, so it sounded more like a racist crack at first.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby phillipsjk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:12 am UTC

So the lady/girl is supposed to be so stupid she mixed up two "Yo Mamma" jokes?!?

I think I agree with the "meh" sentiment.

I think part of the problem is that it is a little too wordy for a pun: those are often one-liners.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:14 am UTC

phillipsjk wrote:So the lady/girl is supposed to be so stupid she mixed up two "Yo Mamma" jokes?!?
No, it's just that her mom is *extra* stupid.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby wisty » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:20 am UTC

Well, i wasn't very funny for me. Australia doesn't have a town called Savannah, Georgia. Nor do we have quarterbacks, or quarters.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby MissConglomeration » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:36 am UTC

Oh, come on, can't we argue a little about boys vs. girls maths and evo psych? I love evo psych. I don't know what's so contentious about it as a science? I didn't think a science could be contentious. Obviously, you can get some helpful information out of evolutionary theory (and also come up with some pretty bunk ideas if you're trying hard enough), but all you have to do is back up conjectured theories with social psych stats, actually have to have a good grasp on what the total environment of early man is, which I feel like is problematic cause we just don't look hard enough at evolutionary biology first. So evolutionary biologists, pipe up. Come on, guys. Top-down, bottom-up! It'll be fun!

Does anybody know a basis for theories about boys vs. girls at math in evolutionary psych? I can't think of a difference-- what, do men need to count the predators and estimate odds? And women have to, I dunno, distribute food proportionally to offspring? I'd imagine what little rooting of mathematical thinking in that environment there is, there's not much difference gender-wise, since both genders were very likely involved in both those tasks. Versatility was probably very useful if the tribe was suddenly thinned. I'd love to hear all the theories, though. In terms of statistics, there's been meta-analysis done on all the studies of gender and math skills, and the only really significant difference, according to my college education, is in spatial rotation. Some math major out there want to insist how very important this is? I really don't know if it is, with the very highest math, so have at it, trying to convince me.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby Faranya » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:37 am UTC

Hmm...I don't get her rant at all...nor do I get his origional assertion as she heard it...

In short, I don't understand what the hell they are going on about.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby squareroot » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:42 am UTC

I'm still confused. Why is it that she associates "Savannah, Georgia" with her mother? Is the mother the dumb one, or the girl being taught? :(
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:44 am UTC

What would you understand by "your London ancestors"? Presumably your ancestors who live(d) in London, right? Well, her mother is one of her ancestors, so presumably her mother lives in Savannah, GA.

My god, is this really such an obscure comic?
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby xms » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:55 am UTC

squareroot wrote:I'm still confused. Why is it that she associates "Savannah, Georgia" with her mother? Is the mother the dumb one, or the girl being taught? :(


I'm assuming her mother is named "Georgia".

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby willpellmn » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:59 am UTC

Boy, I cannot wait to see all the Southern hate mail.

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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby JohnofArc » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:00 am UTC

Really. Really, guys? Are some of you really thinking that the snarky little alt-text comment that was probably shoved in there for a lack of a suitably snarkier alt-text comment is the point of the comic?

Son(s)(and Daughter(s)), I am disappoint.

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It's a satire. It's about how incredibly anal north american society tends to be about sexism and Basic Human Decency to the point where innocuous comments get misinterpreted as sexist or racist jabs. It's funny because it's true, it happens all the time, and you can never call anyone on it for fear of being called a racist, sexist, politically incorrect hick.

Or maybe I'm just reading too far into it. Who knows.
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Re: "Savannah Ancestry" discussion (#775)

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 am UTC

xms wrote:I'm assuming her mother is named "Georgia".
No, her mother lives in or is from Savannah, Georgia.
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