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Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:06 pm UTC
by rmsgrey
operagost wrote:What the heck is orange squash?


Squash is a concentrated drink - orange squash is made (at least partly) from oranges - diluted with water, it's a staple drink for children here in the UK - and the commonest alternative to tea or coffee at social events (except possibly plain water)

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:48 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
(Ah, new-page ninja! Nevermind!)

operagost wrote:What the heck is orange squash?

Wiki page on it.

Because there's a wide range of social variations, listed in that page, I'll just summarise that, for me (from a childhood based in '70s Britain), it's basically a fancy name for your bog-standard orange(-flavoured?) 'cordial' (usually the cheap stuff), as diluted according to the sensibility of the parent(s) who are serving it.

They might well be hosting their kid's birthday party, and the choices would be to make it richer (for perceived luxury, trying and failing to emulate orange juice) or more watery (to prevent making the group of small children go too 'hyper'). There's a fine balance, given the 'yuck' factor and the disappointment of any kid encountering anything either too unexpectedly watery or too unexpectedly concentrated.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:15 am UTC
by MonkeyBoy
[Better said by a female...]

My tinderbox for my moist, heat-seeking friends, and... well, you get the idea.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:07 am UTC
by TrueNarnian
Kinda disappointed Black Hat didn't make a toast.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:20 am UTC
by Pfhorrest
I checked wikipedia amd still couldn't get clear, so I'll ask here: what's the difference between squash and punch or just plain fruit juice from concentrate?

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:11 am UTC
by RogueCynic
TrueNarnian wrote:Kinda disappointed Black Hat didn't make a toast.


Have we seen him since he sent the self driving car to Canada?

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:49 am UTC
by hetas
I'm no good at this game but a friend of mine had this one

Broadcast for my real friends, and real broad for my cast friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:46 am UTC
by Mikeski
Stepsisters[1] for my real friends, and real sisters[2][3] for my step-friends[4]!

[1] - I don't have any of these.
[2] - following the "once you've known a man for 24 hours, his sister is off-limits forever" rule.
[3] - I don't have any of these, either.
[4] - Why don't we use this term for "a friend of my friend"? Your-father's-wife-who's-not-your-mother:stepmother::your-friend's-friend-who's-not-your-friend:step-friend.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:54 am UTC
by LockeZ
Tor clients for my real friends, and realtors for my client friends!

Iowa state for my real friends, and real estate for what I owe my friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:06 am UTC
by Copper Bezel
Soupspoon wrote:
Quizatzhaderac wrote:Our perceptions add an imaginary component to our real friends, making the relationship complex.

Even my real real friends are pretty much all irrational.

I'm stealing both of these. Many thanks. You will not be credited by name.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:33 am UTC
by KarenRei
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Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:32 am UTC
by Eutychus
Pfhorrest wrote:I checked wikipedia amd still couldn't get clear, so I'll ask here: what's the difference between squash and punch or just plain fruit juice from concentrate?
The Atlantic, mostly, I think.

In northern parts of the UK one could also use the term "cordial". I'm sure someone could come up with a suitable toast to do with the other meaning of cordial and friendships; my brain just doesn't work that way.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:34 am UTC
by Soupspoon
Ha! Ninjaed again!

Pfhorrest wrote:I checked wikipedia amd still couldn't get clear, so I'll ask here: what's the difference between squash and punch or just plain fruit juice from concentrate?

Long, but for me (still with the UK and '70s POV as a basis) it's as follows:
Spoiler:
'Squash' (which implies squeezed juice, but never tastes like it) is the fancy name for 'cordial' (which is not 'cordial' as I understand is described in the sense of a cocktail mixer-flavouring. It's (traditionally, perhaps less so now) something chemically coloured and flavoured to be (in the case of orange cordial/squash) as orange in colour as it can be and as orange-like in flavour as it can be (as in, as much 'orange-like' flavour, rather than as like actual-orange flavour), not a syrup and usually close to water in texture (although quickly capable of making your hands sticky, should the undiluted cordial get on your hands).

(Regular blackcurrant cordial is very dark purple and as 'watery', but still needs watering down. There were particular brands of blackcurrant cordial, though, that were perceptively more viscous and tending towards being syrup-like, and they were the good stuff. Never having had freshly-squeezed blackcurrants, I can't say for sure what they were both attempting to taste like, but the latter type 'tasted more real'. Meanwhile lemon squash was 'chemical pale-yellow', by tradition, etc. And this was in the days before artificial additives ('E numbers', not that all E-numbers are artificial) were considered unwelcome, and also there was no "no added sugar" advertisement, because that wasn't the extremely attractive selling point that it is now... But ironically they now probably use 'artificial sweetners' more, to achieve that.)

'Punch' is a (casually, perhaps slapdash) mixed drink, possibly alcoholic. Possibly with real fruit pieces in it. (Whether or not cored-and-quartered apple slices sitting in a liquid that is a mix of fruit-juices ever infuses that liquid... perhaps the liquid infuses the apple slices? Either way, it seems like gilding the lilly...) For children, however, a punch would likely be a mix of whatever kid-friendly drinks there are, e.g. the contents of boxed orange juice (likely 'from concentrate') bulked out with whatever diluted cordials (including orange!) are also at hand. It might still have bits of fruit in it. Apples, probably. Oranges, maybe. Fancy versions will end up with pineapple. Pear was rare, but not unseen. The flavour of a kids' punch would not necessarily be better than a single-flavour drink, but would be novel enough (in the days before "apple and blackcurrant" became fashionable variations of cordial) that not too much of it would end up being poured away. (Besides, it follows the general rule of the buffet table - If there isn't too much, there isn't enough!)

'Just plain fruit juice' is (or pretends to be, probably having been concentrated at the point of origin and then de-concentrated again with local water for boxing 'as fresh') squeezed juice. It tasted different - and more genuine - than cordials (self-made-from-concentrate), etc. It would never have had bits of fruit pulp in it, to proclaim it as 'genuine', but be a perfectly homogenised (and probably pasteurised) filtered liquid, thicker than a normal cordial but thinner than the 'best' blackcurrant cordials, prior to their dilution-to-taste.


In the modern day, I rarely encounter the term 'squash' (I'd probably associate it more with the specific vegetable/fruit/whatever-it-is group that gets mentioned, like pumpkins, in imported US TV/film), and don't have any 'fruit concentrate cordial' in the house to check the current terminology on the labels. But these days it's all about the "with no added sugar". 'Punch', likewise, is a term I never really encounter (perhaps something I'd expect to see served in a party on some US programme involving teenagers, e.g. Buffy or The O.C.), not attending enough wedding receptions and other 'dos' to know if they feature much, these days, and in isolation I'd probably associate the basic term more with the basic concept of the fist-attack. I also don't have any boxed fruit juices (from, or explicitly not from, concentrate) in my house, right now, either, but I do buy them and they've become 'even realer', somehow. And often I get a choice of various blended fruits (kiwi and mango, orange and cranberry, etc). That's even before I get the opportunity to choose 'with pulp' versions. But the first 'with floating bits in' trend I recall was bottled 'pre-diluted-from-concentrate' still cordial-like drinks such as Orangina, where you were encouraged to shake the bottle before opening (or, you learnt to do if you forgot, swirl the open bottle around to set up a vortex) to lift up into suspension the shavings of 'real orange' that were the selling point. I don't know if Orangina still exists, though.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:53 am UTC
by Eutychus
Soupspoon wrote:I don't know if Orangina still exists, though.
It certainly does here in France.

The wedding was indeed in the late 1960s or early 1970s. I was proffered the decidedly non-alcoholic orange squash (as opposed to my expected piece of toast) no doubt in view of my tender years, as a champagne substitute.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:06 pm UTC
by Bloopy
Benadryl for my friends with coughing fits and a rough drilling for my friends with benefits!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:24 pm UTC
by gcgcgcgc
Cotton buds for my real friends, cotton reels for my buddy-friends?
Geisha for my she-friends, shisha for my gay friends?
...nah

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:51 pm UTC
by scharb
You can wait here in the sitting room, or you can sit here in the waiting room!

Root beer for my real friends and real beer for my root friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:40 pm UTC
by rmsgrey
SUDO for my UNIX friends and eunuchs for my pseudo-friends?

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:36 pm UTC
by humanalien
cellocgw wrote:
Reecer6 wrote:Def Leppard for my real friends, and real leopards for my Deaf friends.

...Wait! No! Leopards, not like that! Oh god!

They never heard it coming...


Don't worry, it turns out they got keyboards instead.


LOL. "Instead of leopard, box contained keyboard. Would not buy again."

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:52 pm UTC
by Eternal Density
Firefly coats for my brown friends, and brown coats for my Firefly friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:42 am UTC
by CharlieP
Fay Coyle for my real friends, and real oil for my fake friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:49 am UTC
by CharlieP
Feu rouge for my real friends, and real rouge for my faux friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:43 pm UTC
by Celeste
Species for my real friends and real ease for my spec friends.

Foreign keys for my real friends and real keys for my foreign friends.

Bandaids for my real friends and real AIDS for my band friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:17 pm UTC
by CharlieP
Geriatrics for my real friends, and real hat tricks for my Jerry friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:43 pm UTC
by scharb
Blueberries for my pinko friends, and Pinkberry for my blue friends!

Transistors for my cis friends, and cis sisters for my Trans friends!

Punch for my whiny friends, wine for my punchy friends!

Soul-mates for my Czech friends, checkmates for my Seoul friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:28 pm UTC
by Vanzetti
Wider shins for my deasil friends and diesel for my widdershins friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:49 pm UTC
by da Doctah
氏파크の公園, or Cohen's Park.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:35 am UTC
by StormAngel
Crazy Straws for my real friends, and real straws for my crazy friends!

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ETA:
Shamrocks for my real friends, and real rocks for my sham friends!
Jellybeans for my real friends, and real beans for my jelly friends!
Burnt toast for my real friends, and real toast for my burned friends?


I like toast.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:31 am UTC
by orthogon
da Doctah wrote:氏파크の公園, or Cohen's Park.

That's rather clever. Interestingly, Park can be a family name in the English-speaking world, too: one of my childhood friends was a Park and one was a Parkes.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:44 pm UTC
by The Moomin
A toast to national toast day.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:05 am UTC
by StormAngel
Car's Gone for my real friends, Real Gone for my Cars friends!

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:58 am UTC
by iabervon
Falstaff for my real friends, and a real staff for my false friends.
Cattails for my real friends, and real tails for my friend Catherine friends.
Consignment for my real friends, and realignment for my con friends.
UMass for my real friends, and real ass for my UM... friends.

(or, Queen Dido's version, "Umpires for my real friends...")

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:41 am UTC
by Eshru
HES wrote:Assuming the first panel is a common toast, I've never come across it. I clearly need to attend more weddings.

My first (and no longer only) encounter with the toast in question was the movie "Boiler Room" which I suggest to just about anyone as a good movie to watch.

Edit: Maybe it was 25th hour?

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:23 am UTC
by Eternal Density
Plasticine for my real friends, and a real scene for my plastic friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:59 am UTC
by da Doctah
I've been wondering for years whether Little Richard and Rich Little have to meet up periodically to exchange misdelivered fan mail.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:19 pm UTC
by Jackpot777


An American conservative link and a My Little Pony avatar? It could be worse, at least you're not fapping to anime.

...are you? Actually, don't answer that. We either don't want to know or won't believe the answer one way or the other.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:55 am UTC
by Vanzetti
No rest for my wicked friends, and no wick for my rested friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:01 pm UTC
by Neil_Boekend
Spoilered for being totally unacceptable for some.
Spoiler:
Hot sauce for my man friends and man sauce for my hot friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:17 am UTC
by Sprocket
Clean up on isle 7, 7-Up on Clean isle.

Happy Anniversary to my married friends, Merry Adversity to my happy friends.

X-Men for my real friends, real men for my X-friends.

Mad money for my poor friends, Mad poor for my money friends.

Re: 1645: "Toasts"

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:53 pm UTC
by stopmadnessnow
Fair weather for my ill weathered friends and ill weather for my fair weathered friends!