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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:03 am UTC

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Well currently he just has to change details in each frame, it's not like he has to draw each one from scratch.

Still pretty crazy if he plans to keep the every-five-minutes update schedule. Even if he just does minor countdown adjustments like this, he has to keep checking to make sure they're correct.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:05 am UTC

ker wrote:probably the time changed to the time when we can know about separation having completed successfully (or not)


Oh, right. So the ESA is counting down to the actual event, and Randall is counting down to the event + 30 minutes of light-speed delay.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:05 am UTC

60 minutes. Commentary from our spacebound friend. It seems they are just as impatient as we are:
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:07 am UTC

Hold on, Philae! You just have to Wait for It.

I did a bit of research. It appears that there was a small problem with the lander: the powered descent system didn't activate. This is the little rocket on the back that pushes it down against the comet when it lands as it fires its harpoons. Without that holding it in place, it has to rely entirely on the harpoons to stick.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby bachaddict » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:07 am UTC

Does everyone get the same update at the same time?
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby slinches » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:07 am UTC

It seems Philae's chomping at the bit.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby ker » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:08 am UTC

taixzo wrote:Where is Randall getting his time information from? The ESA countdown says 36 minutes until separation.

I'm not allowed to post links, but google "rosetta-and-philae-landing-timeline" and you'll get a timeline setting separation at 10:03:20 +- (45 sec)

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby DiEvAl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:08 am UTC

taixzo wrote:
ker wrote:probably the time changed to the time when we can know about separation having completed successfully (or not)


Oh, right. So the ESA is counting down to the actual event, and Randall is counting down to the event + 30 minutes of light-speed delay.


Actually it's 28:20 minutes.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:09 am UTC

bachaddict wrote:Does everyone get the same update at the same time?


It appears so.

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ker wrote:probably the time changed to the time when we can know about separation having completed successfully (or not)


Oh, right. So the ESA is counting down to the actual event, and Randall is counting down to the event + 30 minutes of light-speed delay.


Actually it's 28:20 minutes.


Close enough. :P
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby iabervon » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:16 am UTC

Isn't it 700000000km / c = ~39 minutes now? And is the ESA counting down to when the separation happens, or when they send the command?

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby eidako » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:16 am UTC

Uh oh. Messed up the time in the last panel, and now it's back to the blank imgs.xkcd.com/comics/%3F%3F%3F.png image.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:17 am UTC

eidako wrote:Uh oh. Messed up the time in the last panel, and now it's back to the blank imgs.xkcd.com/comics/%3F%3F%3F.png image.

I'm getting the "Can I just go now?" "60 minutes" image still.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby Flumble » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:17 am UTC

slinches wrote:It seems Philae's chomping at the bit.

It's champing!


taixzo wrote:
ker wrote:probably the time changed to the time when we can know about separation having completed successfully (or not)


Oh, right. So the ESA is counting down to the actual event, and Randall is counting down to the event + 30 minutes of light-speed delay.

Oh wow, I didn't think they were that far away from Earth.

Btw, http://sci.esa.int/where_is_rosetta/ has a nice visualisation of where Rosetta is.

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Re: 1446: "???"

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:17 am UTC

eidako wrote:Uh oh. Messed up the time in the last panel, and now it's back to the blank imgs.xkcd.com/comics/%3F%3F%3F.png image.


I'm still getting the '60 minutes' panel. Regardless, it's not updating right now.

Edit: so apparently there are two '60 minutes' panels. Mustard?
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:19 am UTC

Maybe mustard. But Rosetta is closer, and the asteroid moved to the right.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:20 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Maybe mustard. But Rosetta is closer, and the asteroid moved to the right.


Mustard? Or Sesame?

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:21 am UTC

taixzo wrote:Mustard? Or Sesame?

Well, they're both seeds.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby eidako » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:21 am UTC

Missing frame 03-15-00.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:22 am UTC

It showed the 45 minutes frame for a moment, but I refreshed and am getting blank-panel.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:25 am UTC

eidako wrote:Missing frame 03-15-00.

The http://xkcd1446.org/ viewer didn't seem to catch one. And it doesn't have the 45 minutes one. Maybe it broke.

Edit: I'm now seeing the 40-minutes frame, but I don't want to double-post.

Edit2: All right, here it is:

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby melvynadam » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:30 am UTC

I'm very grateful for this forum and whoever created the Digg viewer (even though it's not catching all the images).
Without them this comic made no sense to those of us who use the xkcd App.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby LordHorst » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:31 am UTC

Ha! As soon as I saw the "landing" in the URL I knew it was about the Rosetta mission landing. I AM SO SMART! S-M-R-T!

Anyway, nice one. But why did the countdown move from 50 to 70something? Was there a delay in the landing process or did Randall just mess it up?

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby taixzo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:31 am UTC

Rosetta wrote:Well
It's been a fun 10 years together


Awwww :cry:

LordHorst wrote:Ha! As soon as I saw the "landing" in the URL I knew it was about the Rosetta mission landing. I AM SO SMART! S-M-R-T!

Anyway, nice one. But why did the countdown move from 50 to 70something? Was there a delay in the landing process or did Randall just mess it up?


Randall changed from using real time to using the time at which we hear from the spacecraft, which is about 30 28 minutes later due to the speed of light.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby eidako » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:35 am UTC

Missed another frame, 03-30-00.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby rivulatus » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:35 am UTC

The suspense is on, I want to see how it ends already.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby Eternal Density » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:40 am UTC

ketchup for NP 4-5:
Many notable happenings, including the discussion of lightspeed delay and the multi-ninja'd correct-prediction responses.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby owneroperator » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:45 am UTC

So that's obviously not cue ball on top right?

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:46 am UTC

I'm still getting blank images every time I load the page. Odd.
ETA: And as soon as I post about it, it stops... typical.
https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/landing/r_03-40-00_oprku4Qb8G.png
ETA2: Upon refreshing the page, blank image again. Huh.
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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby DrBeach » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:46 am UTC

This is the greatest thing ever!

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:47 am UTC

I retrieved the 3:40 frame from the viewer, but it never loaded in my xkcd.com tab. I've been getting blanks too.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby Kazza3 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:47 am UTC

HAL9000 wrote:I'm still getting blank images every time I load the page. Odd.
ETA: And as soon as I post about it, it stops... typical.
https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/landing/r_03-40-00_oprku4Qb8G.png


Ditto.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby eidako » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:47 am UTC

HAL9000 wrote:I'm still getting blank images every time I load the page. Odd.
ETA: And as soon as I post about it, it stops... typical.
https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/landing/r_03-40-00_oprku4Qb8G.png


Yeah, the comic is only appearing when the script updates it. It's also updating at 10 minute increments now.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:49 am UTC

10 minute increments, but yet we got 3:35 and a frame labelled 3:40.
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Does this mean I have to start programming Comet Builder?
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Re: 1446: "???"

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby Wee Red Bird » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:52 am UTC

Wonder if he has pre-drawn frames for other eventualities.

Such as the lander not separating, or it landing a little too fast.

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby owneroperator » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:53 am UTC

Wee Red Bird wrote:Wonder if he has pre-drawn frames for other eventualities.

Such as the lander not separating, or it landing a little too fast.


or the comet splitting in half and eating the lander?

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Re: 1446: "???"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:55 am UTC

The comet splitting in half because it is really a giant spaceraptor egg. Baby spaceraptor eats the lander.
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