1966: "Smart Home Security"

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1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Hiferator » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:36 pm UTC

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Title text: If they're getting valuable enough stuff from you, at least the organized crime folks have an incentive to issue regular updates to keep the appliance working after the manufacturer discontinues support.

I'm not quite sure about the best case: Is that just a fancy way of saying the manufacturer provides updates to prevent the worst case?

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:07 pm UTC

Hiferator wrote:
I'm not quite sure about the best case: Is that just a fancy way of saying the manufacturer provides updates to prevent the worst case?


Typical lingo translates "best case" as best-case scenario, so the chart indicates that, over time, even the best-case scenario tends to involve organized crime running your IoT devices. <flame bait> better the Mafia than the FBI </flame bait>
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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:16 pm UTC

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It's how much attention you're getting, relatively, from each, and what you might therefore reasonably expect at various levels of optimism/pessimism.

Note the slower-start of the "official" parties, who aren't quite up-to-speed until they see what strange tricks have been unleashed upon that which they naively unleashed upon the world. Then they start to eat into the 0-day exploiters, as they realise which issues there requirinf the product/back-end needing patching and do that. But then they lose interest, probably while more and more script-kiddies gain interest.

(I think the line is a little flat, IME, and should be more exageratingly sinusoidal, until it becomes asymptotic to hug the 0% engineers + 100% bot line in its dotage.)

Title Text reminds me of the old one about the difference between Windows and a virus, in that a virus is likely to have been more carefully written and less likely to crash. And that was before most computers would get Live Updates to either OS or whatever Malware was currently TSRing in the background.

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Rombobjörn » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:13 pm UTC

Here's how I read it: In the very best case the manufacturer keeps your device secure for over ten years. In the best 30% of cases they keep it up-to-date for five years or more. Then they abandon it and the criminals take control. In the average case the manufacturer abandons you after two years. In the worst 40% of cases your device is taken over by a botnet as soon as you plug it in, and continues to be part of one botnet or another for its entire existence.

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Old Bruce » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:44 pm UTC

It is funny because it is true. [smiley-face emoticon]

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby chrisjwmartin » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:26 pm UTC

Did anyone else read this as a line graph first, get confused, and then realise it was an area chart?

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Dausuul » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:00 pm UTC

Regarding the hover text... I once worked for a start-up company whose servers got hacked, and stayed hacked for a long time before we realized it. (Start-up companies don't have experienced sysadmins. The sysadmin is "whoever can figure out how to turn a server on.")

When we finally got some real IT people in and they discovered the hacking, they also discovered that the hackers had been installing system updates for us. I guess hosting sketchy porn on a hacked server requires top-quality performance. We were almost sad to kick them out.

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby sardia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:30 pm UTC

Rombobjörn wrote:Here's how I read it: In the very best case the manufacturer keeps your device secure for over ten years. In the best 30% of cases they keep it up-to-date for five years or more. Then they abandon it and the criminals take control. In the average case the manufacturer abandons you after two years. In the worst 40% of cases your device is taken over by a botnet as soon as you plug it in, and continues to be part of one botnet or another for its entire existence.

Or just don't buy smart devices period. (I guess if you are forced to, switch off the wifi parts, and ban them from the internet).

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Rombobjörn » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:13 pm UTC

Dausuul wrote:When we finally got some real IT people in and they discovered the hacking, they also discovered that the hackers had been installing system updates for us. I guess hosting sketchy porn on a hacked server requires top-quality performance. We were almost sad to kick them out.

The intruder wanted to keep the servers they had conquered. If they had left the security holes open, then some other intruder would have taken control and locked the first intruder out.

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Re: 1966: "Smart Home Security"

Postby Soupspoon » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 pm UTC

Reminds me a bit of when computers still vulnerable to/hosting Blaster were countered by another worm, that aimed to disinfect and patch them.


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