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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:14 pm UTC

As promised / threatened, here's another photo dump of my holiday snaps: https://imgur.com/a/AkSDY32
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby plytho » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:16 pm UTC

Madge wrote:As promised / threatened, here's another photo dump of my holiday snaps: https://imgur.com/a/AkSDY32

Woah, those are awesome!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:22 pm UTC

It was really cool, but very far out the way!

B99

Spoiler:
So... is there anything that can stop mpolo winning now he's chosen to ignite?

Mark is protected from the flames tonight due to Zenii's Seraph Knight, but will remained primed for tomorrow.

We end up with Boomfrog-Mark-Mpolo tomorrow and I am pretty sure that mpolo will be voted off. Not sure who'll double win with the sash: either the first person to vote mpolo (since mpolo will probably get the Sash in Floorgasm's carnage) or whichever of them decides to target BoomFrog in the night.

Very happy I get to use plytho's excellent pun for Floorgasm's escapades, but very sad that it won't be the last day name.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby BoomFrog » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 pm UTC

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Uh, oh... games not over.... : /

Guess Zenii gets the sash.

Edit: No, actually I think he will keep playing defensively.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:00 am UTC

B99

Spoiler:
Ohhhh yeah spoiler binge. Feels good.

Madge, loved the galaxy brain meme , make more :lol:.

mpolo was an arsonist after all? Amazing, rooting for him to win. Serves everyone right for not damn well looking at him closely enough. Though it's doubtful he'll win in that likely final 3.

Also, what were the conditions required to share the Sash win, I haven't seen them mentioned. I'd been assuming the indie was scum adjacent for soooo long.

I try telling the truth about me targeting randomly, and people don't believe me? What's up with that? :P

At least I think I did better this time than WoT3. Game was over for me realistically once somitomi got lynched but there wasn't much I could do to save a mute partner. I'm just waiting for a game where I can get paired with another chataholic like Sabrar, BoomFrog or Zen, that'll be hilarious.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:02 am UTC

B99

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Most regretted decision: not using strongman N1 on LaserGuy. This would have solved SO many issues, but oh well. Was being paranoid about being tracked and hindsight is 20/20.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:25 am UTC

B99:
Spoiler:
Idle thought. Self-hammering when the sole-survivor of a team could technically be playing against one's win condition...

@Vicarin - I hope you like the spoilers... :lol:
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:04 am UTC

B99

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Yes, it is technically, but I think dragging out the day longer is incredibly pointless by that time. Not going to hold out hope for am absurdly unlikely situation.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:11 am UTC

B99

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Yeah, I don't begrudge Vic for self-hammering. Save us all some game time!

How long should we make Day 5? I kind of immediately realised I should have made Day 4 significantly shorter. Day 5 should be 2 or 3 days, maybe?
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrar » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:20 am UTC

B99
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Vicarin wrote:Also, what were the conditions required to share the Sash win, I haven't seen them mentioned..
Scum achieves a shared Sash-win if they endgame Town with both of them alive but neither of them has it currently. Because game ends at that point and they would end up possessing it when the last townie dies, but there's no way to figure out which one of them.

@Madge: 3 days should be enough for D5.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:37 am UTC

B99

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Ahhh, that makes plenty of sense, I thought it would just come down to a coin flip. Damn that 'it depends' answer!

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby BoomFrog » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:31 pm UTC

Poetry
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I can't wait for the bad poetry to start rolling in.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby plytho » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:31 pm UTC

Poetry

Spoiler:
Ugh, I messed up my crumb. Forgot to put it in my 4th post :roll:

So, wam is very likely scum, LaserGuy very likely town. In the 3-1-1 scenario that means one of Diemo and somi is scum too. I don't have a strong enough read on either for now. Hopefully PR results will help.

Diemo isn't that forthcoming with his opinions. He was against making reads list every post but if he'd done that I'd know where he is now. So I guess I'm slightly more suspicious of diemo now.

current tally
Diemo: 4
LaserGuy: 5
plytho: 5
somitomi: 3
wam: 5

Shows the two I need more from are the ones talking the least. Both of them last posted 2 days ago. Hmm, maybe modprods are in order.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby JudeMorrigan » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:46 pm UTC

B99

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I hope Boomfrog gets the sash win, purely for the flavor. I could totally see the 99 changing it to "ultimate mammal/genius".

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby bessie » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:25 pm UTC

Brooklyn 99 mafia

Spoiler:
Everyone's not waiting for me me me are they?

I submitted my night action with my justification so that I can't be accused of not playing to my what I consider to be my primary win condition, the town win condition.

I swear if I just handed this to Zen I'm going to be sooooo pissed at myself.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby somitomi » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:53 pm UTC

Vicarin wrote:B99

Spoiler:
Ohhhh yeah spoiler binge. Feels good.

Madge, loved the galaxy brain meme , make more :lol:.

mpolo was an arsonist after all? Amazing, rooting for him to win. Serves everyone right for not damn well looking at him closely enough. Though it's doubtful he'll win in that likely final 3.

Also, what were the conditions required to share the Sash win, I haven't seen them mentioned. I'd been assuming the indie was scum adjacent for soooo long.

I try telling the truth about me targeting randomly, and people don't believe me? What's up with that? :P

At least I think I did better this time than WoT3. Game was over for me realistically once somitomi got lynched but there wasn't much I could do to save a mute partner. I'm just waiting for a game where I can get paired with another chataholic like Sabrar, BoomFrog or Zen, that'll be hilarious.

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My humble apologies, I don't think I could've done a worse job than this. You did the job of two superbly in my opinion.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:04 am UTC

B99

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Here's the night actions, still waiting on Mark but it only matters for his Sash win not for the outcome of tonight's actions:

bessie roleblocks mpolo (does nothing as he's not visiting)
Boomfrog Woof's mark (probably does nothing as we won't get a N5)
Zenii messages Boomfrog (steals sash)
Mark babysits whoever (does nothing as doesn't interact with arsonist - unless he babysits boomfrog)
Mpolo ignites (kills zenii and bessie)
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:34 am UTC

B99 @Madge

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So where's the Sash going to end up once its new owner ends up incinerated?

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:39 am UTC

B99

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It'll be in mpolo's possession
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:56 am UTC

B99

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BFrog wrote:Let's just let the game end naturally instead of squabbling. Lynch mpolo, let everyone have their shot at guessing where the sash is then lynch Vic. Game over, someone who earned it gets the sash.


Turns out this was a REALLY GOOD idea by BoomFrog :P.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:24 am UTC

B99

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Yeah, the Sash will just go to the first person who votes mpolo, assuming mpolo doesn't manage to talk his way out of being the aronist, which I think is next to impossible.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:39 am UTC

Poetry

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LaserGuy no ping wrote:Roses are red
Violets are blue
Let's talk about reads
And lynch scum too.

plytho is first.
He's the easiest one.
He's spent most of the game
Hunting for scum.

His tone is all town
His logic is sound
I don't see any reason
Not to keep him around.

Somi is next.
He's not so clear.
He's asking good questions
It would certainly appear.

Though he asks many questions
He has few opinions, I feel
What makes me wonder
What he's trying to conceal.

I have given much thought
to Diemo as scum
And after some reflection
Think he could be the one.

In one post he says
That scum could be wam.
But later he says
He thinks it's a sham.

In another he says
It might just be me
But the reason he gives
Could well fit he

Why does he say
That plytho is Town
When later he says
He isn't around?

Wouldn't power Town think
There's others like me?
How many games
Have you seen a VT?

Much has been said
About wam's play
I don't think there's much
More to convey

Five posts in all
And what has he said?
Nothing to help
Not a word in the thread

wam as Town
Will put in the work
I have never seen him
Just active lurk

His test is a lie
I think that is clear
His unvote it shows
He has something to fear

If he is Town I feel
He must claim and soon
Otherwise scum
Will be over the moon


Roses are red
Violets are blue
It's wam or Diemo
One of the two.


Very, very nice :D.

Though I think the meter is messed up in a few little places :P.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:55 am UTC

Your poem's so good LaserGuy! I loved it.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby wam » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:42 pm UTC

Poetry

Spoiler:
Well lets see how that goes. Its not as good as laser's poem though!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Zenii » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:24 pm UTC

B99
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I didn't receive an action confirmation this time. Does that mean I'm going to be killed, or does Madge figure I'm likely to change it anyway so why bother?

If killed, that would mean bessie mafia. Perhaps I should warn Boom, and, in addition, tell him of my message to mpolo. I've been reluctant to reveal that information as it has the potential to add paranoia regarding my alignment. Also if I did send this to Boom and the ideal scenario of a no kill + me stealing the sash occurs, Boom could use my message as fuel to lynch me for an additional sash-nabbing Night, even if he didn't think it were likely I was scum.

Hm, my thinking was that mafiaBessie would kill me for a mylo lynch on mpolo, but thinking about it, killing me would would condemn her since she is supposed to roleblock mpolo. mafiaBoom couldn't do this either. Killing at all tonight puts mpolo off the table.

Hm, yea, I'll leave my message as it is. Ideally it's no kill + I grab the sash from Boom. However, I wouldn't be mind the scenario of mafiaBessie roleblocking me in an attempt to end the game with a triple kill; leaving her, me and Boom in lylo.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:45 pm UTC

B99 @ zenii

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you said that you wouldn't change your action so I didn't bother confirming it for you, as I only did it in the first place because of the confusion n1
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:37 pm UTC

Just letting everyone know that B99 will have a new day (in case anyone was wondering), but it might be a bit late because I didn't get a chance to write flavour yesterday. It should be up within 12 hours.

(Reason: I was too busy coming first and second in a banana bread competition, with my second place entry being a joke entry of a home-brand "box mix" with freezer-burned bananas that I accidentally made taste better than stuff people actually tried to do well at by accidentally adding a bunch of cinnamon to)
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrar » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:49 pm UTC

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Damn, that poem from plytho is fantastic. I'm so glad I didn't sign up for real, no way I could match that.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby BoomFrog » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:06 am UTC

B99
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What :shock: The :shock: Fuck!?

Madge wrote:What’s that? A human is giving you instructions? What could it mean?


You received a message in the night. It reads:

Woof! Woof Woof. Bark, Bark! Ribbit.

This has to be from Zenii. Oh, this is what he was going on about with mpolo. So he was going for the sash and it's just nonsense. Got it.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Zenii » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:51 am UTC

B99
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FINISH HIM

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:31 am UTC

B99:
Spoiler:
@Madge, so if BoomFrog had been killed, how would you have written the flavour for a dog being handcuffed to a table??

It's going to come down to which way Mark can be persuaded, probably.

@Madge, Sabrar, mpolo has no more ability to kill, right? Is his win condition to get down to a 1v1. He can't eliminate Mark or BoomFrog except via the lynch, which surely would imply a draw is the best mpolo can hope for?
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:40 am UTC

B99

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The flavour would probably involve the dog being locked into Holt's office, or the holding cell, or a cat carrier, or perhaps handcuffed to the table by his collar. Who knows.

Fun fact: when writing the flavour I forgot that Jake had been voted off the previous day so that's why all of a sudden Boyle betrays him. If I'd remembered I would have had Jake disciplined and sent downstairs before the Ali G scene, but I didn't want to take away all the stuff I'd written.

Mpolo can kill but it takes two turns (priming+ignition); however 1v1 he endgames Town, but if it was arsonist vs mafia i'd imagine the mafia would win, unless mafia were primed, in which case i'd furrow my brow and know Sabrar had a way out of this (i keep him around for a reason after all :wink: )

I feel bad for BoomFrog: when I play flavour games I really love it when my character gets mentioned in the flavour, but... it's a dog who nobody is convinced is playing (and yet a dog that is likely to win, as zenii dying means that zenii retroactively didn't steal the Sash when he visited mpolo last night)
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrar » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:41 am UTC

B99:
Spoiler:
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:@Madge, Sabrar, mpolo has no more ability to kill, right? Is his win condition to get down to a 1v1. He can't eliminate Mark or BoomFrog except via the lynch, which surely would imply a draw is the best mpolo can hope for?
mpolo can pime and ignite again however this is very slow, he would need 2 days of no lynches to win that way. If somehow there is a mislynch today then he wins as SK because he is guaranteed to kill the remaining townie N6.

Edit because of ninja:
Madge wrote:but if it was arsonist vs mafia i'd imagine the mafia would win, unless mafia were primed, in which case i'd furrow my brow and know Sabrar had a way out of this (i keep him around for a reason after all :wink: )
That would be a legitimate draw.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:30 am UTC

B99:
Spoiler:
Ah, I thought somebody said that mpolo can only ignite once. That makes more sense now.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:42 am UTC

B99:
Spoiler:
And the Zenii N1 message gambit pays off... Nicely done. Maybe mpolo claiming being blocked by bessie is enough to save him, but I don't think so. Also, mpolo should realise that if he has a supporter, then they'd just vote for the other townie, so that was a massive mistake, I think.

I'm really looking forward to Madge's flavour for the dog having the sash at the end. I don't know B99 at all beyond this game, but it feels like it makes complete and perfect sense for the show!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby plytho » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:09 pm UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:B99:
Spoiler:
And the Zenii N1 message gambit pays off... Nicely done. Maybe mpolo claiming being blocked by bessie is enough to save him, but I don't think so. Also, mpolo should realise that if he has a supporter, then they'd just vote for the other townie, so that was a massive mistake, I think.

I'm really looking forward to Madge's flavour for the dog having the sash at the end. I don't know B99 at all beyond this game, but it feels like it makes complete and perfect sense for the show!

B99
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Yeah, that message gambit payed off beautifully. I am in awe.

Cheddar ending up with the sash does make perfect sense.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:14 pm UTC

B99

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I'm also wondering how mpolo thought a 6-2-2 would have been remotely balanced. Oh well, looks like town probably gets there in the end.

I'd have thought people would have stopped trusting anonymous messages by now too :P.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrar » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:18 pm UTC

B99
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I think mpolo would have likely been executed regardless of this but it sure makes things less stressful for Town.
What I don't understand is why Zenii didn't follow up this sooner. It was exactly the same gambit I pulled on Mark in Alien Warfare, the conclusion should have been easy.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vicarin » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:32 pm UTC

B99

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You know, I'd considered mentioning that Zen was sending messages when I did the self hammer. Heh.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:01 pm UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:B99:
Spoiler:
I'm really looking forward to Madge's flavour for the dog having the sash at the end. I don't know B99 at all beyond this game, but it feels like it makes complete and perfect sense for the show!


B99

Spoiler:
It 100% does. I'm excited, too. This is the best thing that could possibly have happened!

Also - and people thought the message power was a powerless gimmick solely to allow the messenger to steal the Sash!!!!!
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