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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby adnapemit » Fri May 13, 2016 12:50 pm UTC

Sticking to a claim order would have been nice.

I got a town result for emlightened.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Carlington » Fri May 13, 2016 1:08 pm UTC

Sorry, I figured that I was misremembering how firm the consensus was on claiming order. I was going to follow it but the out of order claims happened (also I was real excited to keep playing) so I followed suit.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Fri May 13, 2016 1:36 pm UTC

Let's not stop the discussion just because we're waiting for the results. Going with the classics:
- suggested investigation order for N2: player above you on the sign-up list
- suggested claim-order for beginning of D3: reverse sign-up list

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Diemo » Fri May 13, 2016 1:52 pm UTC

I got town on jimbob.

Also, I am reading the page (for those who were saying I didn't post much) but it is a dethy so there isn't really anything so say.

I agree with investigate the person above you.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Mikemk » Fri May 13, 2016 2:58 pm UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I've received Scum on mikemk.

Care to respond mikemk?

I guess that means you're either insane or paranoid.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Madge » Fri May 13, 2016 3:05 pm UTC

Scum on Carlington, because I'm excited to start reading charts and logic stuff.

Looks like we've been getting scum results left and right
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Fri May 13, 2016 3:14 pm UTC

Mikemk - could you claim your result please, you are next in order (bad Madge for skipping him!).
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Fri May 13, 2016 3:15 pm UTC

EBWOP: And for skipping Snark.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Fri May 13, 2016 3:18 pm UTC

Actually emlightened should be next but as long we're already skipping the order left and right Mikemk should claim if he's here anyway.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Esthr » Fri May 13, 2016 4:02 pm UTC

Checking in. I'll wait a little bit longer for emlightened, mikemk, and snark to claim.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Fri May 13, 2016 4:12 pm UTC

Vote jimbobmacdoodle

For being unable to read the sign-up order, forgetting about the sort-of agreed claim plan, and generally failing at this game today.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Diemo » Fri May 13, 2016 4:17 pm UTC

Oh sorry, I skipped emlightened. I misread adnaps post as emlightened
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy²

Postby Sabrar » Fri May 13, 2016 6:00 pm UTC

Decided to use the notification method to make people aware that we're waiting for their claim.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby dimochka » Fri May 13, 2016 6:38 pm UTC

Have my result on Sabrar, waiting on... basically everyone.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby emlightened » Fri May 13, 2016 7:45 pm UTC

Scum result on Diemo.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Fri May 13, 2016 7:50 pm UTC

@Mikemk: it's your turn to claim.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Mikemk » Sat May 14, 2016 1:05 am UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Mikemk - could you claim your result please, you are next in order (bad Madge for skipping him!).

I didn't claim earlier because you skipped.

Anyway, Jimbob is BSI.

EDIT: As pointed out 7.23" below this, I investigated the wrong person, but that's irrelevant.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Snark » Sat May 14, 2016 1:18 am UTC

Sabrar wrote:If you're a Member of the Baker Street Irregulars you have the ability each night to investigate one other player by pm-ing the mod in the form shown in this post. By consensus, during the first night you should be investigating Snark. At the end of the night you will receive the result of your investigation from the mod saying either that Snark is Town or Scum. Claiming means posting this result that you received privately in this public thread so we have more information to work with and it should be done early in the day.
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jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Mikemk - could you claim your result please, you are next in order (bad Madge for skipping him!).

I didn't claim earlier because you skipped.

Anyway, Jimbob is BSI.
Did you just not read this? Or any of the other stuff about people saying investigate the person below you on the list?

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Sabrar wrote:Let's not stop the discussion just because we're waiting for the results. Going with the classics:
- suggested investigation order for N2: player above you on the sign-up list
- suggested claim-order for beginning of D3: reverse sign-up list
Agree except Mikemk will have to invert. Agree.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Snark » Sat May 14, 2016 1:19 am UTC

Esthr wrote:...

Bumping Esthr as it's their turn.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Esthr » Sat May 14, 2016 2:28 am UTC

Got a Town result on Dimochka. I'm fine with the proposed investigation and claim order.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Carlington » Sat May 14, 2016 6:42 am UTC

I'm happy to follow the plan, and I'll actually stick to it this time, too. If I'm counting properly (and I'm pretty sure I am, I have a table drawn up and all! :D), it's only dimochka left to claim.

Also, I'm looking pretty sharply at Mikemk not investigating Snark. That result is notable in its absence, and I'm led to wonder why Mikemk avoided investigating Snark.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Sat May 14, 2016 6:52 am UTC

From a purely mathematical point of view the order of the investigations does not matter as long we get all of the results. So if Mikemk investigates Snark tonight then all could be forgiven and we could put it down as a simple mistake (much like claiming out-of-order). Obviously if he once more refuses to follow the plan then he will become an automatic lynch-target should we be undecided.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Sat May 14, 2016 8:10 am UTC

Would anyone mind if I shared my spreadsheet? The number of possible scenarios is down to 3720 (without dimochka's result) so the file is quite manageable but I'm unsure about the ethics in this kind of game.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Carlington » Sat May 14, 2016 10:48 am UTC

Sabrar wrote:From a purely mathematical point of view the order of the investigations does not matter as long we get all of the results. So if Mikemk investigates Snark tonight then all could be forgiven and we could put it down as a simple mistake (much like claiming out-of-order). Obviously if he once more refuses to follow the plan then he will become an automatic lynch-target should we be undecided.

This seems fair.

I have no objections to you sharing your spreadsheet, but I likely won't make much use of it.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Sat May 14, 2016 1:28 pm UTC

I don't have any problem with Sabrar sharing his spreadsheet, but I'll likely be using my own method of trying to pin things down. I guess though that it should be in some form of uneditable format, e.g. an attachment to the forum rather than a Google Sheets document or similar.

A mistake by mikemk would be understandable, but why did he not acknowledge it immediately in his claim post? After all, since I targeted him, and had admitted as such (and indeed he noticed that I had), surely he must have realised that either I made a mistake, or he did, neither of which he admitted. Mikemk - please explain.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Sat May 14, 2016 1:32 pm UTC

dimochka wrote:...

Also, I believe we are only waiting on dimochka's result before we have all of today's numbers?
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby dimochka » Sat May 14, 2016 3:12 pm UTC

I got a scum result on Sabrar.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Mikemk » Sat May 14, 2016 3:13 pm UTC

1. Sabrar
2. adnapemit
3. emlightened
4. Diemo
5. jimbobmacdoodle
6. Mikemk
7. Snark
8. Madge (I will not be offended if you bump me to replacements for balance purposes)
9. Carlington
10. Suzaku Killed N1: Baker Street Irregular
11. Esthr
12. Dimochka (well since you said 12...)

I interpreted below as lower number, not as physically written underneath.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Sat May 14, 2016 3:54 pm UTC

Mikemk wrote:I interpreted below as lower number, not as physically written underneath.

That would be a valid excuse if I hadn't explicitly pointed out your supposed target for N1 (as Snark already mentioned).

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I guess though that it should be in some form of uneditable format,

Settings would be set to view only but people could download it and update on their own.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby dimochka » Sat May 14, 2016 7:58 pm UTC

Mikemk wrote:...
12. Dimochka (well since you said 12...)

I interpreted below as lower number, not as physically written underneath.

Then how would I even be able to submit a target if we said any number below? Surely someone would have mentioned me as an exception.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Sat May 14, 2016 8:18 pm UTC

Current proposition is player above you on sign-up list, currently supported by 5 players (Carlington, Diemo, Esthr, Sabrar, Snark). Exception would be Mikemk who hopefully investigates Snark for real this time.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby dimochka » Sat May 14, 2016 8:24 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:Current proposition is player above you on sign-up list, currently supported by 5 players (Carlington, Diemo, Esthr, Sabrar, Snark). Exception would be Mikemk who hopefully investigates Snark for real this time.

Thanks, missed it, works for me.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby emlightened » Sat May 14, 2016 9:31 pm UTC

I think the spreadsheet would probably be quite interesting.

Also agree with player above (but below for Mikemk).

As it seems everything's been discussed:

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Diemo » Sat May 14, 2016 10:50 pm UTC

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Madge » Sat May 14, 2016 11:42 pm UTC

I will also investigate above me. I have submitted my action (to investigate Snark).

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Mikemk » Sun May 15, 2016 4:16 am UTC

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Sabrar » Sun May 15, 2016 4:45 am UTC

Sent in action. Huge FoS on anyone who votes No Lynch after this. Mod is AFK until Tuesday so D3 won't start earlier just because we hammer. On the other hand people might not have sent in their actions yet so give them time.

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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby Carlington » Sun May 15, 2016 8:31 am UTC

I have submitted my action and am ready to roll.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby adnapemit » Sun May 15, 2016 9:22 am UTC

Sabrar wrote:Let's not stop the discussion just because we're waiting for the results. Going with the classics:
- suggested investigation order for N2: player above you on the sign-up list
- suggested claim-order for beginning of D3: reverse sign-up list

I agree with this and that Mikemk should investigate Snark.

I have submitted my action.
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Re: Baker Street Irregulars Dethy² - Day 2

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Mon May 16, 2016 7:55 am UTC

So, if I understand everything correctly, here's who should be investigating who tonight:

Sabrar investigates dimochka
adnapemit investigates Sabrar
emlightened investigates adnapemit
Diemo investigates emlightened
jimbobmacdoodle investigates Diemo
Mikemk investigates Snark
Snark investigates Mikemk
Madge investigates Snark
Carlington investigates Madge
Esthr investigates Carlington
Dimochka investigates Esthr

@mikemk, I don't follow your reasoning still. Regardless, please confirm who you are going to investigate tonight.

I'm ok with reverse sign-up order claim, i.e. dimochka first. I will submit my action to investigate Diemo now.
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