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Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:34 pm UTC
by Echo244
I concur with SirG. Anyone continuously human and unlynched since frogman last got left to his own devices for a night is potentially compromised. Might still be doable with those restrictions, given lynching removes probe status. I'll have a look through the plan later, see if I can come up with something provably unstoppable.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:16 pm UTC
by patzer
SirGabriel wrote:
patzer wrote:And in future I'll target frogman every night, which will stop him using his redirection powers.

If I'm reading the role PM right, targeting him will stop him from probing anyone but won't stop him from redirecting someone who's already been probed.

Oh. I didn't notice that. That's rather awkward.

Hmm. My winning plan had the five of us winning as townies-with-two-penalty-points. But I think that can be twerked to have six of us (everyone but Vytron) all win as cultists-with-three-penalty-points.

Frogman would win with us then, so he would play along with our plan.

I'll post the revised plan soon (now with even more winners!)

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:18 pm UTC
by patzer
EBWOP: the tw.eak > twerk filter strikes again :roll:

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:28 pm UTC
by patzer
Revised plan.

Today, we will lynch maident.
Tonight, the cult will recruit frogman; this will make frogman a cultist alien.

State of play after night 6 (tonight):

Players:
SirGabriel - town, 2PP (cult -> zombie -> town)
patzer - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Vytron - town, 1PP (zombie -> town)
maident - (vanilla) town, 0PP (town)
frogman - cultist alien, 3PP (alien -> masonic alien -> alien -> cultist alien)
Echo244 - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)
Dr Ug - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)


On day 7, we will lynch Dr Ug; this will make Dr Ug a townie-with-2-PP.
On night 7, the cult will recruit Vytron; this will make Vytron a cultist-with-2-PP.

State of play after night 7:

Players:
SirGabriel - town, 2PP (cult -> zombie -> town)
patzer - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Vytron - cult, 2PP (zombie -> town -> cult)
maident - (vanilla) town, 0PP (town)
frogman - cultist alien, 3PP (alien -> masonic alien -> alien -> cultist alien)
Echo244 - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)
Dr Ug - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)


On day 8, we will lynch Vytron; this will make Vytron a townie-with-3-PP.
On night 8, the cult will recruit maident; this will make maident a cultist-with-1-PP.

State of play after night 8:

Players:
SirGabriel - town, 2PP (cult -> zombie -> town)
patzer - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Vytron - town, 3PP (zombie -> town -> cult -> town)
maident - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)
frogman - cultist alien, 3PP (alien -> masonic alien -> alien -> cultist alien)
Echo244 - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)
Dr Ug - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)


On day 9, we will lynch Echo244; this will make Echo244 a townie-with-2-PP.
On night 9, the cult will recruit Dr Ug; this will make Dr Ug a cultist-with-3-PP.

State of play after night 9:

Players:
SirGabriel - town, 2PP (cult -> zombie -> town)
patzer - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Vytron - town, 3PP (zombie -> town -> cult -> town)
maident - cult, 1PP (town -> cult)
frogman - cultist alien, 3PP (alien -> masonic alien -> alien -> cultist alien)
Echo244 - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Dr Ug - cult, 3PP (town -> cult -> town -> cult)


On day 10, we will lynch maident; this will make maident a townie-with-2-PP.
On night 10, the cult will recruit SirGabriel; this will make SirGabriel a cultist-with-3-PP.

State of play after night 10:

Players:
SirGabriel - cult, 3PP (cult -> zombie -> town -> cult)
patzer - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Vytron - town, 3PP (zombie -> town -> cult -> town)
maident - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
frogman - cultist alien, 3PP (alien -> masonic alien -> alien -> cultist alien)
Echo244 - town, 2PP (town -> cult -> town)
Dr Ug - cult, 3PP (town -> cult -> town -> cult)


On days 11, 12, and 13 we will no-lynch. On nights 11, 12, and 13 the cult will recruit maident, patzer, and Echo244 (in any order).

On day 14, we will no-lynch. On night 14, the cult will recruit Vytron, making him cult-with-4-PP.

Everyone is now cult, so the game ends.

Result:
SirGabriel, Echo244, maident, frogman, Dr Ug, and I all win, as cultists with 3 penalty points.

And if we all follow this plan, Vytron obviously can't do anything to stop it.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:04 pm UTC
by SirGabriel
Okay. First step: everyone confirm that you actually have the role patzer claims you have. Obviously, I am vanilla town.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:11 pm UTC
by frogman
I can confirm that I am currently an alien.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:40 pm UTC
by maident
Confirming I am Mason, again. Yes, with Patzer.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:59 pm UTC
by patzer
...Where is everyone? 24 hours with no posts at all? :evil:

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:11 am UTC
by Vytron
Oh, shut up, you zombie.

Spoiler:
Disclaimer: not said seriously - so here, imagine the crowd laughing on a sitcom, or something.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:57 am UTC
by Echo244
...can we open that spoiler?

Anyway, I think we need to hear from Ug on this. More or less everyone else seems happy, with the exception of Vytron.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:28 pm UTC
by patzer
Echo244 wrote:...can we open that spoiler?

Anyway, I think we need to hear from Ug on this. More or less everyone else seems happy, with the exception of Vytron.

I assume we can open that spoiler, as there's no rule against opening spoilers in this game. If he didn't want us to read it he'd have put it in the Gojoe.
...

I agree, we need to hear from Ug. We need you and Ug to confirm you're both cultists with one penalty point.

Just to check, we're both speaking about my revised plan that includes frogman, right?

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:07 pm UTC
by frogman
I've spent a lot of time thinking about this and I'm pretty sure I'm prepared to go along with this. I've gone over patzer's plan more than a few times and I don't think there's anywhere that she could pull a fast one on us. I am a bit wary that it seems to be a really complicated plan with a lot of moving parts but I think we can work together and make it happen.

To those of you accusing patzer of being a zombie, I believe that patzer is not because I know that maident is still human and maident is vouching for patzer. Patzer ought to doctor herself tonight just in case.

Vote: maident

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:33 pm UTC
by patzer
I honestly don't see why I should doctor myself tonight, when there are no zombies left?

I think it's more worthwhile for me to doctor frogman - I trust that he'll follow our plan, but think it's a good idea to doctor him, just in case..

I'll wait for Dr Ug to confirm that he's going along with the plan before putting my vote down.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:03 pm UTC
by frogman
In case you're infected. I'm still not clear on the chronology of the zombie team, so it seems like a reasonable precaution. I'm being culted tonight, if you're worried about me.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:31 pm UTC
by patzer
frogman wrote:In case you're infected.


oooh, I didn't think about that :shock:

Well, you're the alien, so you'll have a better idea than I on what redirections have been happening.

Have changed my doctor action for tonight to targeting myself.

Re: Deathless Mafia - NEW D1!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:44 am UTC
by Lawrencelot
Current votes
patzer (2): SirGabriel, Vytron
maident (2): frogman

Not voting (2): Echo244, patzer, maident, Dr Ug

4 votes required to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 20:00h GMT (11:15 hours from now).

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:03 pm UTC
by SirGabriel
Still waiting to hear from the cult leader about patzer's plan.

Unvote

Re: Deathless Mafia - NEW D1!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:42 pm UTC
by patzer
Lawrencelot wrote:Deadline: Monday, 20:00h GMT (11:15 hours from now).


I appeal against this deadline.

The rules clearly state that "In general, days will last for 5 RL days and nights for 2.5 RL days. Weekends will count as half time."

By your deadline, Day 6 will have lasted only 3 days and 21 hours; if we count weekends as half time, that becomes 2 days and 21 hours.

This is clearly far shorter than it should be according to the rules.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:43 pm UTC
by patzer
Vote: maident

(just in case Lawrencelot rejects my appeal)

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:40 pm UTC
by Lawrencelot
Sure, if you need more time it is no problem.

Deadline extended

Will post a new deadline later

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:00 am UTC
by patzer
Well, Ug has been online a lot lately, but not posting at all. This seems very suspicious, when we need his assent for the plan to go ahead.

My plan has us lynching maident on day 6 and lynching Ug on day 7. Would anyone object to switching these two lynches round, i.e. lynching Ug today and maident tomorrow?

This doesn't affect the outcome of the plan at all. But it would ensure that Dr Ug is fully on our side, which I'm not sure is the case at the moment.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:15 am UTC
by SirGabriel
Works for me.

Vote: Dr Ug

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:55 am UTC
by frogman
Dr Ug is the cult leader currently?

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:16 am UTC
by SirGabriel
frogman wrote:Dr Ug is the cult leader currently?

Yes, I was the only cult and then I recruited him.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:19 am UTC
by patzer
frogman wrote:Dr Ug is the cult leader currently?

Yes, I believe so.

afaik, Dr Ug has been cultist since night 2; Echo has been cultist since night 4.

I believe this means that Echo would have to submit the cult's actions for tonight, as she would become the lead cultist immediately following Ug's lynch.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:25 am UTC
by Dr Ug
The only problem with this is the possibility the patzer is no longer doctor, and is actually a zombie. Can anyone other than patzer confirm how he was deculted night 3?

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:29 am UTC
by frogman
Maident has confirmed that patzer is a mason, and I trust maident because I have her probed (and can't have zombies probed).

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:31 am UTC
by Dr Ug
Ok. Let's try it.

I have submitted Vytron as recruit tonight.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:33 am UTC
by Dr Ug
We also need to ensure frogman is targetted (either by lynch or someone's power) every night to ensure he doesn't sneak a win out from under us, as a long game favours an alien win.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:22 am UTC
by maident
Vote Dr Ug

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:29 am UTC
by Vytron
Dr Ug wrote:I have submitted Vytron as recruit tonight.


This will have no effect if you're lynched.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:57 am UTC
by patzer
So yeah. Dr Ug posts for the first time in about a week despite being online all the time,
implies he supports the plan,
and immediately goes against it by trying to recruit Vytron.

...What.

This only confirms that it's a good idea to vote Ug before voting maident. I don't know what Ug is hiding but it can't be good.

Vote: Dr Ug

Re: Deathless Mafia - NEW D1!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:43 am UTC
by Lawrencelot
Current votes
Dr Ug (3): SirGabriel, maident, patzer
maident (1): frogman
patzer (1): Vytron

Not voting (2): Echo244, Dr Ug

4 votes required to lynch.

New Deadline: Wednesday, 20:00h GMT (35:15 hours from now).


Since this should have been the original deadline, I will allow for one more extension if necessary, but with so many game days I prefer to keep the game going.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:15 pm UTC
by Dr Ug
Sorry, I meant I've targetted frogman. Not Vytron.

Not quite sure what I can hide, I'm cult. That's been known for some time. There's not subtleties to that...

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:13 pm UTC
by Vytron
Okay, I guess I could give up the game, and just hammer Dr Ug and be done with it.

Instead, I'll reply to this:

patzer wrote:Vytron's trying to claim that he's infected everyone. I suspect this is a frantic attempt to muddy the waters.


Okay, patzer, so you claim to know that the zombies are gone, and came up with some fool-proof plan for everyone to win except me. Please tell me then, who did I bite when I was a zombie? If you claim that my targets are fake, then it's because you know who they were, and that they're now what you know they are. How did this happen?

Because I still believe you're the zombie and anybody supporting your claims is a zombie as well.

I did bite Echo two nights in a row.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:49 pm UTC
by patzer
I don't know who you bit when you were a zombie.

but maident and I have confirmed that we're both town. Ug and Echo have confirmed they're both cult. frogman's an alien; SirGabriel is town because we just lynched him.

We don't need to know who you bit when you were a zombie; we only need to know that you aren't a zombie now.

Dr Ug wrote:Sorry, I meant I've targetted frogman. Not Vytron.

Not quite sure what I can hide, I'm cult. That's been known for some time. There's not subtleties to that...


ah, sorry for assuming your supposed targeting of Vytron was malicious, rather than a mistake.

Yes, I don't see anything you could be hiding. OTOH, there's no harm in lynching you today and maident tomorrow rather than vice versa.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm UTC
by frogman
Vytron wrote:Because I still believe you're the zombie and anybody supporting your claims is a zombie as well.


I think you'll find that I am confirmed by the moderator to not be a zombie, so there's that.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:02 pm UTC
by Vytron
I was talking to patzer.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:04 pm UTC
by patzer
Vytron wrote:I was talking to patzer.

And I believe frogman was claiming to be one of the players that supports my claims.

Re: Deathless Mafia - Day six

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:40 am UTC
by Vytron
And I claim frogman has no idea if you are a zombie or not.