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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jessica » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:34 pm UTC

No, but elves do need to do their meditation for 4 hours every night.
and V's been skipping that probably.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby une see » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:30 pm UTC

I love V! S/he better not turn totally evil, or I will be very sad. I hope V goes back to normal soon...

And we haven't heard from Roy/Haley/Belkar/Celia in a while. Maybe the focus will switch to them now that the Kubota arc is over? (Can I just say that I love how it ended? Totally was not expecting such a quick resolution. It was quite a convenient one, too.) Although I'd prefer for V to regain his/her sanity first.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Maseiken » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:38 pm UTC

Yakk wrote:
cephalopod9 wrote:I think V badly needs some sleep, and Elan will be clueless as long as he can afford to.

Elves do not sleep. That is more proof that they are a superior being, and the needs of humans are secondary to their goals.

Thank you.

Although, right now I think V might consider his/herself superior to just about everyone.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Quixotess » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:26 pm UTC

Looks like the baby's fine.

Think I just fell in love with Elan a little bit.

Actually, do you know, I just realized that my favorite characters are always the ones we've just been spending time with. That's got to be a good thing.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jessica » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:43 pm UTC

good aweosme conclusion to that arc.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:02 am UTC

You know, I usually find/found Elan to be kind of annoying--the "stupid character antics" can wear on me. But after this strip, I definitely respect him as more than comic relief.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Ishindri » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:46 am UTC

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:50 am UTC

Don't be too sure. It seems very OotS to be self-aware enough for V to refuse the devil's advances. Then again, it may happen exactly as you'd expect. I'll be interested to see how this goes. Hopefully we'll get a strip tomorrow.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Belial » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:03 am UTC

I just assumed the imp was going to use V as evil-camouflage to sneak back onto the ship while the paladins are still scanning.

Which is to say, that he assumes V will be returning to the ship, and plans to stick close to him, invisible, and hope his evil aura gets lost in V's.

Which, in turn, assumes that V is evil now, which might be what Burlew is trying to tell us
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jorpho » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:13 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:You know, I usually find/found Elan to be kind of annoying--the "stupid character antics" can wear on me. But after this strip, I definitely respect him as more than comic relief.
...Dude, he's a comic strip character.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Quixotess » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:24 am UTC

I get a lot more out of the character development and conflicting motives than out of the punchlines.

I'm not sure the imp is hoping to hide in V's aura.. Qarr's got no idea what V's doing or how long s/he'll be gone; seems like a bizarre choice. V was the major force in all the deaths that just happened on Qarr's side--is it possible that he just wanted to get back on the ship to try and kill V?

I know that every time V appears people go with the "maybe NOW V will fulfill the prophecy," but comic 600 seems a more likely time to do it than most. Or something spectacular, anyway--V is certainly careening out of control.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Maseiken » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:14 am UTC

What Qarr DOES know is that V was ignoring his/her friend's and Supposed Commander's advice, that V is very powerful, and V was arguing with said allies and that V has just stormed away from the ships in a palpable huff, that's prime Corruptin' material, right thar!
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:48 pm UTC

I really wish OotS would just get on with it. It's really starting to drag it's feet,yeah there has been some enjoyable awesome moments (like V casting disintegrate on Kubota), but the pacing right now is about as fast as a salted slug, it is starting to seriously grate on me.

Maybe I should leave it alone for a few months and come back later. :S

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby phlip » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:51 pm UTC

I think the pacing is starting to drift towards what you'd expect in the printed books...

The earlier strips feel like a page-every-few-days comic strip, which happened to be later collected in book form... the current strips feel like a comic book, that happens to be posted in page-every-few-days form. The strips are still self-contained enough (in that each strip has a reasonable end to it... we don't, for instance, stop halfway through a conversation, and pick it up later, unless it makes sense to do so as a cliffhanger or suchlike)... but the pacing does seem like a correction to how fast the first few arcs turned out to be when in book form...

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:23 pm UTC

If that's the case the pacing still feels pretty bad to me, I've read a few comics being posted on the web first, and I could work with those just fine. But OotS is not holding up to that very well.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby 22/7 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:10 pm UTC

To each his own and all that, but I'm rather enjoying all the character development and the numerous plot lines that are being woven here. That said, I would dearly like to find out what the hell is going on with Belkar...
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:37 pm UTC

I don't have anything against the character development or anything it's always a nice thing, I'm just feeling really fatigued by how much the story is starting to just drag.

I guess I just feel like it could be handled a little better, today's comic was good, but some of them are just like "baaaah" or something. I dunno.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jorpho » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:16 pm UTC

I was actually thinking that Mr. Burlew got rid of Varsuvius just now after having realized that he had hopelessly written himself into a corner from which his only escape was to start shedding characters. How's that for literary critique?

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:10 pm UTC

I kind of wonder if he's going to say those 4 right words to the right person for all the wrong reasons.

Or if that imp is going to be turned into imp pie.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:30 pm UTC

Being.

Oracles have this tendency to tell you the exact truth while saying it in such a way as to completely obscure what's going on. He's likely to say it to a horse or dog or possibly a fish, not another sentient creature. Person implies sentience. Being does not, simply animate life.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:57 pm UTC

That's true, but didn't the oracle say he would attain a bunch of power from saying whatever he says?

I don't think a random non-sentient "being" is going to grant him the power he's looking for, but maybe.

I still want to see if that imp is the being, or about to become pie. >D

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Quixotess » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:42 pm UTC

I think person implies human. I thought he was leaving open the possibility that it would be, you know, a dwarf or an elf or a troll or a goblin or any of the other races.

I think being could imply sentience, or at least it's been used that way before a la beings vs beasts.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby phlip » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:02 pm UTC

lorenith wrote:I don't think a random non-sentient "being" is going to grant him the power he's looking for, but maybe.

Noone said that the being in question will grant V the power... just that that it gets some words said to it by V at some point.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:30 am UTC

V: How will I achieve complete and total ultimate arcane power?
O: By saying the right four words to the right being at the right time for all the wrong reasons.

Simply saying the four words might be what kickstarts it. Hence, it's possible that it's already happened, and the events unfolding are leading him down the path to complete and total ultimate arcane power. Whatever that means.

Quixotess wrote:I think person implies human. I thought he was leaving open the possibility that it would be, you know, a dwarf or an elf or a troll or a goblin or any of the other races. I think being could imply sentience, or at least it's been used that way before a la beings vs beasts.

3: a living thing ; especially : person

Being
4. something that exists: inanimate beings.
5. a living thing: strange, exotic beings that live in the depths of the sea.
6. a human being; person: the most beautiful being you could imagine.


I guess it depends on the definition being used. 3 would apply primarily to humanoids (as it applies to humans here where there are only humans) but could be used to apply to any living thing. I do agree, however, that the word Being was used to make sure everyone understood that it could be to a human, elf, goblin, demon, dragon, thing in the black shadows, Xyklon, or Harry Potter.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:32 am UTC

Make me actually go back and look at something for once :P

He will attain power by saying something to some being.

That doesn't change the fact that I wonder if that will end up being the little imp or not. I'm not saying it HAS to be the imp, just that I wonder if it'll be him. I've not wondered about that up till now but now I am.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Moo » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:12 am UTC

"Being" can also imply more than human (like a god or a snarl) or an ex-human (like a lich); it really is very broad.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Belial » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:02 pm UTC

Yeah, "being" is often used for extraplanar intelligences, too, so the imp is a candidate.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby JayDee » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:52 am UTC

phlip wrote:I think the pacing is starting to drift towards what you'd expect in the printed books...

The main place I'd say the pacing changed would be the point it was up to when I finished reading the archives. :P
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Neuman » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:54 pm UTC

New comic!

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:21 pm UTC

Rich Burlew is a cruel man, even if he is right.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:47 am UTC

I liked that last panel.

But I am mildly confused, was there a massive leap forward or something? Roy seems pretty sure that he's being rezed soon.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:19 am UTC

lorenith wrote:I liked that last panel.

But I am mildly confused, was there a massive leap forward or something? Roy seems pretty sure that he's being rezed soon.


Roy has been hanging about in the upper-levels of the afterlife--he hasn't seen anything since the Oracle dismissed him. He's about to go back down to resume watching, and he intends to stay down there for either several months or until he gets raised. He doesn't expect Haley to take too much longer, and his plans at the moment assume he doesn't have to come back up. I think that explains why he's saying goodbyes and stuff.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby lorenith » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:43 am UTC

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks :D

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:27 am UTC

It's been a little while since the bump. Not much exciting would happen, but Belkar seems to be in the middle of something interesting. I've never seen "one dimensional character" lampshaded like that.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Gojoe » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:57 am UTC

I like where this has been going. They are doing a good job.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jorpho » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:15 pm UTC

I gotta admit, that last strip (606) was pretty dang cool.

Let's hope things don't go all Cerebus from here and have some character meeting Mr. Burlew.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Kizyr » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:53 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:I gotta admit, that last strip (606) was pretty dang cool.

Let's hope things don't go all Cerebus from here and have some character meeting Mr. Burlew.

Besides those older "Q&A" comics where the characters acted like actors, I don't see this possibility arising. I don't think Rich would go for something that ridiculous. KF
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:07 am UTC

Yeah, this last strip was nice. Good ol' Shojo, I miss him.
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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jorpho » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:25 am UTC

Kizyr wrote:Besides those older "Q&A" comics where the characters acted like actors, I don't see this possibility arising.
Those were kind of cool, but I suppose those days are long gone. (We probably shouldn't even expect guest comics anymore, sigh.)
I don't think Rich would go for something that ridiculous. KF
It does seem like a potential extension of profound-character-revelation-via-dream-sequence.

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Re: The Order of the Stick

Postby Jessica » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:31 pm UTC

So... pickles and bitchfighting.
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