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Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:55 am UTC
by dimitriye98
What it says on the title, who was the greater inventor, Nikola Tesla, or Thomas Edison?

BTW, some websites, namely the Edison Tech Center's, have been claiming that the Westinghouse power plant designed in part by Nikola Tesla was not the first. This claim is partially true, but calling the small, experimental powerhouses that existed prior power plants is like calling the research fusion reactors of today the same.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:41 am UTC
by Xenomortis
Spoiler:
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Did Edison invent anything that fucking awesome?
No?
Didn't think so!

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:50 pm UTC
by Rokkerboyy
Xenomortis wrote:Did Edison invent anything that fucking awesome?
No?
Didn't think so!


Compare Tesla's few hundred patents vs Edison's thousands and you don't think that at least one of said thousands are that cool? Even as we enjoy things such as recorded music and video?

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:45 pm UTC
by Роберт
Rokkerboyy wrote:
Xenomortis wrote:Did Edison invent anything that fucking awesome?
No?
Didn't think so!


Compare Tesla's few hundred patents vs Edison's thousands and you don't think that at least one of said thousands are that cool? Even as we enjoy things such as recorded music and video?

What does the number of patents filed under Edison's name have to do with how good of an inventor Edison was?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1Mz7kGVf0

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:55 pm UTC
by Izawwlgood
Came to post that.

I remember reading that Edison was a meticulous experimentalist, while Tesla was a 'straight to the point' inventor. There's room for both, and the fact that Edison was ALSO a savvy businessman and fairly... unscrupulous... scientist means he came out on top in the short run. I think it goes without saying their competition drove Tesla, but it sure would have been interesting seeing what homeboy would have come up with had they worked together.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:47 am UTC
by Xenomortis
Izawwlgood wrote:but it sure would have been interesting seeing what homeboy would have come up with had they worked together.

Tesla did work for Edison earlier.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:50 pm UTC
by Rhombic
Edison was a simple salesman; in fact, most of his invents were focused on the commercial aims, rather than the technology itself.
My vote goes for Tesla.
Tesla coil forever.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:50 pm UTC
by Rhombic
Edison was a simple salesman; in fact, most of his invents were focused on the commercial aims, rather than the technology itself.
My vote goes for Tesla.
Tesla coil forever.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:42 am UTC
by Thesh
Rokkerboyy wrote:
Xenomortis wrote:Did Edison invent anything that fucking awesome?
No?
Didn't think so!


Compare Tesla's few hundred patents vs Edison's thousands and you don't think that at least one of said thousands are that cool? Even as we enjoy things such as recorded music and video?

Just like how McDonald's has more restaurants worldwide than any restaurant that has ever won a Michelin Star.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:39 pm UTC
by wumpus
Thesh wrote:
Rokkerboyy wrote:
Xenomortis wrote:Did Edison invent anything that fucking awesome?
No?
Didn't think so!


Compare Tesla's few hundred patents vs Edison's thousands and you don't think that at least one of said thousands are that cool? Even as we enjoy things such as recorded music and video?

Just like how McDonald's has more restaurants worldwide than any restaurant that has ever won a Michelin Star.


Note that by the ISO9000 definition of "quality", all of McDonald's have higher "quality" than those with the Michelin Stars. Also considering that the whole point of having a patent is to prevent your competitors from innovating, 1000 simple patents are likely more effective than 100 non-obvious patents.

As far as how great those patents were, remember the Tesla claim that Marconni needed "17 Tesla patents" to transmit his radio signal. Just how complicated is a radio that there are 17 things to patent? (of course, everything that uses AC power is going to use several "off the shelf" patents, but still). Tesla's claim to fame was getting AC electricity to work. Since Westinghouse was aware of the idea (he bought the patents for a transformer in 1885, Tesla didn't create his AC system until 1887. The superiority of AC rests in that transformers can step up and step down the voltage, allowing for efficient transmission.) Tesla coils look awesome, but do everything the wrong way for communications (they are so noisy that they pretty much prevent anyone else from communicating). Tesla may have Edison beat in religious wars, but only because Edison was mostly a crook and a scam artist. Tesla was mostly a crank who got one thing very right (actually, plenty of his early radio stuff looks good. It just wasn't solving anything that anyone wanted solved).

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:49 pm UTC
by cphite
It depends on how you define greater inventor...

If you're asking who had the more brilliant mind and came up with the most truly innovative ideas, then my vote is for Tesla without any doubt. The guy had some amazing ideas. He also had some bat-shit crazy ideas, but those don't detract from the amazing ones.

If you're asking who was better at actually making things that people needed, then it's obviously Edison. Sure, he stole a lot of what he made; but he was the guy who made it all happen on a large scale.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:58 pm UTC
by Роберт
cphite wrote:It depends on how you define greater inventor...

If you're asking who had the more brilliant mind and came up with the most truly innovative ideas, then my vote is for Tesla without any doubt. The guy had some amazing ideas. He also had some bat-shit crazy ideas, but those don't detract from the amazing ones.

If you're asking who was better at actually making things that people needed, then it's obviously Edison. Sure, he stole a lot of what he made; but he was the guy who made it all happen on a large scale.

Sounds like you're a fan of Steve Jobs. :/

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:50 pm UTC
by Iranon
There are some similarities between Jobs and Edison:
Great business-oriented vison, can be credited for making exciting new tech commonplace, liked to overstate their creative genius, ham-fisted in their offensive use of patents.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:27 pm UTC
by wumpus
Iranon wrote:" liked to overstate their creative genius"


I am curiously unaware of of Job's creative genius. Edison seems to have invented the research laboratory and nothing else.
From what I've heard of Jobs is that he knew a hit device when he saw one* (and could keep such a device in the lab until it was a hit). This is probably more valuable in a company full of creative types, but isn't the same thing.

*Wozniak mentioned that their partnership officially started after Jobs suggested "we should sell this" after seeing something Woz made.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:09 am UTC
by Jolnanis
Glad to read I'm not the only one drawing parallels between Edison and Jobs.

Great for them if they were good businesmen, but it saddens me when the public think they were technological geniuses given one "demonstated" the dangers of AC by electrocuting an elephant with higher amplitudes than the ones proposed by Tesla, and the other was but a glorified marketer.

Re: Tesla vs. Edison

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:58 am UTC
by Wildcard
cphite wrote:It depends on how you define greater inventor...

If you're asking who had the more brilliant mind and came up with the most truly innovative ideas, then my vote is for Tesla without any doubt. ...

If you're asking who was better at actually making things that people needed, then it's obviously Edison. ...

This pretty much sums it up for me.

As for the parts I snipped out—I don't know about the stealing or the bat-shit crazy parts (I just literally do not know about that), but I agree with the rest.