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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby cntrational » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:08 am UTC

eSOANEM wrote:I said earlier that I wouldn't say it was, I'm just saying that, depending on what you refer to by "Britain" it could be included as a British accent in that Irish accents come form the British Isles. I was more ranting about the uselessness of the term "British" as anything else.


There's plenty of people who dislike the term British Isles, mind. You can go with British and Irish Isles or even "these isles".

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby iroZn » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:18 am UTC

My gf's accent is Australian and I think it's one of the sexier accents. Not the crocodile hunter accent (bogan they call it in aus) the sydney one.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Eebster the Great » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:50 am UTC

CntRational wrote:There's plenty of people who dislike the term British Isles, mind. You can go with British and Irish Isles or even "these isles".

There are too many terms for various regions up there. It is seriously a clusterfuck of confusion for people who don't live there.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Chuff » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:28 am UTC

I would definitely say that RP is sexy. And I would agree with the kids from Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2 having absolutely incredible accents. For non-native speakers speaking English, I'd definitely not agree with french (in fact, Disgusting French is the only accent I can do well). I'm not sure what I would agree with.

On Australian, I don't normally consider it particularly sexy, but I know this girl who has an Australian accent and is incredibly soft-spoken, and together it's incredibly sexy. So, uh, soft-spoken Australian, I guess.

As for people thinking they don't have an accent, I've met a lot of Canadians who have said that. I've always met non-native english speakers who thought they spoke accent-less english, which is odd.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Monika » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:32 am UTC

Chuff wrote:I've always met non-native english speakers who thought they spoke accent-less english, which is odd.

Well, it's not really possible to notice one's own accent. If one were aware of it, one could avoid it, after all. I certainly didn't notice how bad my accent really was until the students in my US school said something along the lines of "Wait, was that English?" The teacher understood me, though. Moreover, in a foreign language it is very hard to notice any dialects or accents at all. Before my stay in the US I could not even easily distinguish British and American speakers. I had to wait for words like "can't" with a very clear and obvious difference in pronunciation.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Makri » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:30 am UTC

Well, it's not really possible to notice one's own accent. If one were aware of it, one could avoid it, after all.


Not necessarily. In order to avoid it, you would have to be aware of the details, which isn't necessary for being aware that you have just any accent. Plus, even if you knew in principle how to avoid it so that you can do so when paying attention, errors may still slip in when you don't. (And you can notice them the second after...)
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Monika » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:42 am UTC

Makri wrote:Not necessarily. In order to avoid it, you would have to be aware of the details, which isn't necessary for being aware that you have just any accent.

How so, if no native speaker mentions it?

Plus, even if you knew in principle how to avoid it so that you can do so when paying attention, errors may still slip in when you don't. (And you can notice them the second after...)

I can only think of sounds like th for which this holds true, at least for me.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Whistling Nixie » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:14 am UTC

iroZn wrote:My gf's accent is Australian and I think it's one of the sexier accents. Not the crocodile hunter accent (bogan they call it in aus) the sydney one.

Is there such thing as a Syndey accent, though? I thought the closest you got to a regional accent here was in Adelaide. Do most Sydneysiders (except places such as Tha Shoire, maaaate) use what's known as the general Australian accent - i.e. in between the broad (bogan/ocker) and cultured (e.g. ABC announcers, Alexander Downer)?

Chuff wrote:I know this girl who has an Australian accent and is incredibly soft-spoken, and together it's incredibly sexy. So, uh, soft-spoken Australian, I guess.

The terms soft-spoken and Australian look mighty strange together! That may be why she left this country: to get away from the boorish, pugilistic, anti-intellectual attitudes that have penetrated almost every aspect of Australian society over the last few years. If I see one more Southern Cross tattoo, I'm going to puke.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Essah » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:47 am UTC

South African and Scottish.... but maybe in the two cases i'm thinking of it had more to do with the girl than their accent... but it definately didnt make it worse that they had south african and scottish accent.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Fado » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:33 am UTC

Just on the topic of Northern Ireland, there are quite a few accents here that differ wildly. The 'lower-class' Belfast accent is pretty abominable to listen to. It's high pitched, strangulated, nasal and has this constant rise-fall pattern that's just plain irritating. And 'up-speech'. I hear more and more people from here starting to employ that feature of some American accents whereby the nucleus of the tone-group is moved right back to the end, with a mid or high rise, so that everything they say comes out like a question. It's agony. By the same token, there are some accents here that are an utter pleasure to listen to. By the way, I'm sure I don't have to point it out, but the Northern Irish accents from Ronin and Devil's Own aren't exactly spot-on. :P

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Eebster the Great » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:05 pm UTC

Fado wrote:And 'up-speech'. I hear more and more people from here starting to employ that feature of some American accents whereby the nucleus of the tone-group is moved right back to the end, with a mid or high rise, so that everything they say comes out like a question. It's agony.

In America, it is mostly girls who do this, and only with some accents.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby cntrational » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:16 pm UTC

I'm fairly sure that is stigmatized in America, too.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Kangaroo » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:18 pm UTC

CntRational wrote:I'm fairly sure that is stigmatized in America, too.


It's stigmatized everywhere. It has popped up in Finland as well, and is, indeed, very painful for the ear and all of our aesthetic senses.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby voicedotter » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:47 pm UTC

I'm a New Zealander and I hate how some foreigners stereotype us all with the Auckland/ North Islander accent which I actually don't like to be honest. I am a South Islander which may be the reason.

I actually really like the German accent and the Australian accent.
I just think that the German accent is really neat especially how they talk so quickly. I only like Australian accents because they sound strange to me.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Monika » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:05 pm UTC

Yeah for German accent! \o/

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:07 pm UTC

Germans talk quickly now? Wait until you meet an Italian speaker!
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby broken_escalator » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:14 pm UTC

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KestrelLowing wrote:The accents that I'm not thrilled with is the American southern accent. For some reason it is so hard to take people who talk with that accent seriously.

No, I'm kidding. Your mistake is that you think the "southern accent" you hear on TV actually exists. Having lived in Georgia my entire life, including some very small towns, I've only heard the TV version of a southern accent three times. Everyone else is much closer to a neutral American accent.

This reminds me of wne of my closer friends in North Carolina has a southern accent like you wouldn't believe. His wife has one too but its not nearly as strong as his, I'd give it an arbitrary level of 1/3rd as strong as his. Anyway, when I first heard him I thought he was just being funny, but he really just sounds like 100% of the typical "southern accent". I kind of feel bad for him though, he's a bit ashamed of it and wont get on ventrillo or group chats when we play online games with other people. Apparently that's just how his family talks so it was normal until they moved. I forget where he what state he moved from though (I know it was south-east), I haven't talked to him in a while.

I think my personal favorite is a Russian or eastern European accent. I've always liked russia and eastern europe, and I find their accent kind of awesome. Especially when explaining something and leave out pieces of sentence or sometime get sentence wrong yet make the sense. I wish I talked like that, despite how annoying it must be in everyday life.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:18 pm UTC

Actually I think you'll find that the stereotypical "Russian with poor English" leaves all of the definite articles out of the sentence.

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Actually you find, I think, stereotypical "Russian with poor English" leave all definite article out of sentence.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby broken_escalator » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:19 pm UTC

Yes, that one!

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Iulus Cofield » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:56 pm UTC

I love the cadence that many Japanese speakers use when speaking English.
They tend to add a bunch of vowels/syllables to words (i.e. [su̥pu̥ɾiŋŋu] for <spring>), yet somehow still sound slow and measured, probably due to the moraic timing in Japanese.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Monika » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:07 pm UTC

I have googled moaric timing (results e.g. http://www.ling.fju.edu.tw/phono/farrah ... nology.htm ) but I don't really get it and how it relates to how Japanese sound when speaking English.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Derek » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:36 pm UTC

Iulus Cofield wrote:I love the cadence that many Japanese speakers use when speaking English.
They tend to add a bunch of vowels/syllables to words (i.e. [su̥pɾiŋŋu] for <spring>), yet somehow still sound slow and measured, probably due to the moraic timing in Japanese.

Having watched plenty of anime, I have often laughed at their horrible Engrish pronunciations. If I'm not laughing at it though I usually find it more annoying than anything. Also, I'm pretty sure there would be another [u] between the [p] and [ɾ]. Japanese really can't say consecutive consonants unless the first is a nasal or the second is a [j].

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Iulus Cofield » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:09 pm UTC

Monika wrote:I have googled moaric timing (results e.g. http://www.ling.fju.edu.tw/phono/farrah ... nology.htm ) but I don't really get it and how it relates to how Japanese sound when speaking English.


Japanese uses moraic timing, so each syllable is pronounced for about the same amount of time. So, /ke/ and /a/ are equal moras. Japanese also has long vowels, so /ii/ is equal in time to /keke/. There are also voiceless vowels in some environments, and these often appear in loan words and in the pronunciation of English by Japanese speakers. A speaker saying [su̥pu̥ɾiŋŋu] has added four syllables (the first ŋ is it's own syllable), all of which are equal moraically. The voiceless vowels are pretty hard to hear for speakers of other languages as well.

I just like the way Japanese syllables sound meshed onto English.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby ArgonV » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:30 am UTC

Is it really strange if I think Scottish is a sexy accent?

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Eebster the Great » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:39 am UTC

ArgonV wrote:Is it really strange if I think Scottish is a sexy accent?

According to the internet, if you think Scottish sounds sexier than Flemish, it means you have aural cancer.

Seriously, there seem to be a lot of posts in this thread asking if their preferences are strange. I find that strange!

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Makri » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:31 am UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Germans talk quickly now? Wait until you meet an Italian speaker!


Actually, my experience is that Italian speakers speak rather slowly in English. That's because they almost invariably carefully pronounce every single vowel as it's written... (A friend of mine has the theory that Italians aren't taught English, but how to sound like an Italian speaking English. :mrgreen: )
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby ohtobeagiant » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:18 am UTC

My first instinct is that French accents are sexy, but then I realized that it's only because in my mind French accent = sexy French lady.

In light of that, I don't really find any accents "sexy."
However, the accents I probably enjoy most are African (sorry, I don't really know the distinction; I think I heard a Libyan?) and Indian (once again, I'm sorry for being unable to convey specifically).
Incidentally, a guy in one of my classes is from the South (as in Southern United States) and I enjoy hearing his accent, although we all occasionally make fun of him for it.

I usually enjoy most accents, unless they are too thick for me to understand--then I feel uncomfortable because I don't want to keep asking what they said.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Giant Speck » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:36 am UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Actually I think you'll find that the stereotypical "Russian with poor English" leaves all of the definite articles out of the sentence.

Actually, this stereotype is somewhat true regardless of the Russian's level of English language skill. It has more to do with the fact that the Russian language does not have definite articles and less to do with the speaker's level of understanding the English language. It's mostly a habit sort of thing.

Problems also sometimes arise with the use of infinitives and the fact that the Russian language doesn't (generally) use the verb to be (быть), except in the third person singular (есть). Though, these problems don't arise nearly as frequently as the problems involving articles.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby fənɑlədʒɪst » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:42 am UTC

Iulus Cofield wrote:
Monika wrote:I have googled moaric timing (results e.g. http://www.ling.fju.edu.tw/phono/farrah ... nology.htm ) but I don't really get it and how it relates to how Japanese sound when speaking English.


Japanese uses moraic timing, so each syllable is pronounced for about the same amount of time. So, /ke/ and /a/ are equal moras. Japanese also has long vowels, so /ii/ is equal in time to /keke/. There are also voiceless vowels in some environments, and these often appear in loan words and in the pronunciation of English by Japanese speakers. A speaker saying [su̥pu̥ɾiŋŋu] has added four syllables (the first ŋ is it's own syllable), all of which are equal moraically. The voiceless vowels are pretty hard to hear for speakers of other languages as well.

I just like the way Japanese syllables sound meshed onto English.


While what you said is mostly correct, I'd like to point out that it's only theoretical phonology that you're talking about. Having measured durations of mora in actual Japanese speech, I can tell you that it's rarely easy to say that all mora (not syllables, as /ka/ and /kaɴ/ are both syllables) are relatively the same length. The amount of variation in speech, as with any language, is huge. Things like final-lengthening, position in a phrase, and even the pitch accent system, as well as the tone being conveyed all affect mora length. Descriptive phonetics disagrees pretty strongly with that sort of theoretical framework we have set up around the mora system. Also, geminate consonants complicate the mora-syllable divide, since geminate consonants count as their own mora. かった is two syllables but three mora. /shrug

As for the voiceless vowels, there's of course variability there too. Some speakers devoice many more vowels than others, some don't devoice any vowels (especially females), and a lot of speakers elide the vowels completely (Ueda 1979), giving their idiolectal Japanese coda consonants (which Japanese supposedly doesn't have other than /ɴ/). Ex: かわいいっすよね /ka.wa.i:s:.jo.ne/ or /ka.wai.is:.jo.ne/, depending on your interpretations of diphthongs in Japanese, which is a highly controversial topic in linguistics, as well as the phonemic status of Japanese long vowels [e:] and [o:].

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Monika » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:41 pm UTC

fənɑlədʒɪst wrote:かった is two syllables but three mora. /shrug

How do you say that?

... voiceless vowels ... and a lot of speakers elide the vowels completely

They leave out all vowels completely? :shock:
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby engr » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:09 am UTC

Giant Speck wrote:Actually, this stereotype is somewhat true regardless of the Russian's level of English language skill. It has more to do with the fact that the Russian language does not have definite articles and less to do with the speaker's level of understanding the English language. It's mostly a habit sort of thing.


How very true.
I've been learning English since 5th grade (and I'm 23 now) and I've lived in the US for the past 5 years; my use of articles is still a bloody mess.
People here in the US say that my Russian accent must drive girls crazy. Meh. I only know one girl for whom my accent is/was a turn-on. Other than that, all I'm getting from my accent is friends making fun of it.
I personally find British and Australian accents (I can't distinguish between these two), as well as Southern US accent attractive. There's a British dispatcher on my county's fire/EMS channels, I enjoy listening to her talk. When I have to talk on the radio myself, it's an endless source of entertainment for everyone listening.

If only my English teachers in Russia and Israel knew what a mess my pronunciation is now! They all spoke British English.
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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Iulus Cofield » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:24 am UTC

Haha, I hope when I eventually start teaching I find a way to get away with telling my rowdy students to die.

Related to your experience with articles and the stereotypical Russian accent, in my experience I find linguistic stereotypes to generally be fairly accurate. But then again, many stereotypes are based on something and cross-linguistic interference is likely to be nearly as regular as the phonology of the L1.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby cntrational » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:51 pm UTC

Derek wrote:Japanese really can't say consecutive consonants unless the first is a nasal or the second is a [j].


I'm pretty sure the -y- syllables in Japanese are palatalized consonants, not a [j]-using cluster.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Iulus Cofield » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:10 am UTC

But how do you palatize a labial nasal?

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby cntrational » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:19 am UTC

Eh? Not palatalize as in "shift to palatal consonant", but palatal as in raising the body of the tongue to the hard palate. It's indicated by [ʲ] in the IPA.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby Iulus Cofield » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:21 am UTC

With a labial consonant, the tongue isn't involved at all, so if you raise your tongue to the palate while you make a labial consonant, I don't understand how that can be phonetically different from either a yod (i.e. the consonant cluster [mj]) or from a simultaneous glide and labial consonant (i.e. [m͡j]).

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby kellyja8 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:45 am UTC

Georgian (Caucusus) accents are the sexiest accents, period. There's some Slavic influence, especially among the educated who speak Russian, plus something resembling Persian. English sounds positively melodic in the Georgian accent.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby AvatarIII » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:01 pm UTC

Oregonaut wrote:Had a Ukrainian lady seduce me once. Granted, the fact that she was pumping out pheromones like nobodies business may have helped, but I thought the way she was speaking was quite sexy.


i agree, "russian"/eastern european type accents are definately sexy,

my favourites are irish, and some type of spanish/mexican accent, although i have less experience with hearing those outside celebrities/actresses with mexican/spanish origins.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby oagersnap » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:17 pm UTC

I've never really thought about what accents are appealing in the English language, but when it comes to German, I find the Austrian accent quite sexy.

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Re: Sexy Accents?

Postby kg959 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:48 am UTC

Personally, I find it unfathomable that this thread has gone so long without anybody mentioning Israeli accents. They sound similar to high British accents, but they have a noticeable twinge of difference. Not too sexy for guys, but by far my favorite for girls. (This coming from a urban East Texan with a very minor Texan drawl.)

If I had to pick a second, it'd be the Sydney accent, for similar reasons.


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