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Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:55 am UTC

Is there an existing thread for dedicated fans of the portmanteau? If so, kindly direct me to it, and delete this one!

Anyhoo, I am a fan and anti-fan of portmanteaux. Anyone got any good ones? For those who are unsure, a portmanteau is basically fusing two existing words together to make a new word, so breakfast + lunch becomes brunch, spoon + fork becomes spork, etc.

Some of my favourites:
Testiculate
Sarchasm
Pastafarian
Zombine


And some I despise:
Brangelina
Bennifer
Tweenager (ugh!)
SoCo*


*Currently the marketing (UK) teams for Southern Comfort are trying to get down with the tweens by branding it as "SoCo". The adverts have these awkward voice-overs saying "So-Co?" "So-Co & Coke?" "I'll have a So-Co" in such a forced manner, it's like they're begging you to pronounce it SoCo in the future.

As if such a graceless and ungainly brand name will ever become part of common parlance like "J.D." or "Jack & Coke"
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Interactive Civilian » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:46 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:*Currently the marketing (UK) teams for Southern Comfort are trying to get down with the tweens by branding it as "SoCo". The adverts have these awkward voice-overs saying "So-Co?" "So-Co & Coke?" "I'll have a So-Co" in such a forced manner, it's like they're begging you to pronounce it SoCo in the future.

As if such a graceless and ungainly brand name will ever become part of common parlance like "J.D." or "Jack & Coke"

Actually, when I lived in the US, and more specifically, when I was in PA for High School and then Florida for University, I heard it called "SoCo" more commonly than Southern Comfort.

I though SoCo was the standard nickname for it in the US. (someone currently in the States please correct me if this is not or no longer the case)

Interesting that it has to be forced in the UK... :)
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:52 am UTC

And Canada. Thank you for echoing my bizarre unaccountable hatred for the "CALL IT SOCO AND YOU'LL BE COOL!" ads, although up here it's "SoCo lime? SoCo lime! SoCo lime? SoCo lime! Oh my God!"

*shudder*

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Charlie! » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:58 am UTC

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Ian Ex Machina » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:57 am UTC

Urgh, those South Comfort adverts are absolutely shit, I mean as you say it sounds so forced and fake but by god are they annoying.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Swirlify » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:12 am UTC

My physics teacher came up with an interesting one:

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby joeframbach » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:27 am UTC

My old roommate used to say "hugegantic" a lot. It's pretty common too.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:09 am UTC

Huzzah - a shared hatred for advertising! I'm also not even a fan of Southern Comfort. It's supposed to be a drink for grizzled 19th century prospectors; not kids who need acidic kaleidoscopic imagery to keep their attention for 18 seconds.

I like Popemobile, and will add Batmobile to that. We should race 'em.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby kellsbells » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:50 am UTC

Well for calculus my friends and I use "derivitate", which is a portmanteau of "derive" and "differentiate". Also, I am not a fan of the word "spork", so I occasionally use "foon".
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Zohar » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:43 am UTC

"Sacrilicious"
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Kabann » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:58 am UTC

edutainment
infomercial


Fairly annoying, and suspiciously similar in meaning, if you think about it the right way.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby kellsbells » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:19 am UTC

Zohar wrote:"Sacrilicious"


All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster and His Noodly Appendages.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby liza » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:41 am UTC

kellsbells wrote:Well for calculus my friends and I use "derivitate", which is a portmanteau of "derive" and "differentiate".

I have to wonder how common this is. I and friends used the variant "derivate" in Calc. I know other fora-members have mentioned using similar portmanteaus.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:41 pm UTC

I was reading this NY Times article about the difficulty of dating someone that eats different food than you, and one of the people interviewed dropped this bomb like it was nothing:

“I’m not a vegangelical. He’s an adult and I respect his choices just as he respects mine.”

Vegangelical! Is that a word we can say now? I hope so.

The article, incidentally, is here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/13/dinin ... tible.html

It's pretty good if you are into reading about the little things that cause relationships to fail.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Number3Pencils » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:46 am UTC

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby mmaniaci » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:25 am UTC

Wow Strongbad does a fantastic job in his Portmanteaus. I was crackin' up the entire time I read it haha. Anyway, for my first post on xkcd forums I shall contribute:

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby GodShapedBullet » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:27 am UTC

Have you ever used "poortmanteau" to describe a poor portmanteau?

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:27 am UTC

Scientologist
or,
Idiologist

...which actually makes me a tautologist.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby parallax » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:19 pm UTC

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby antinea » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:41 pm UTC

or: you will be governated. resistance is futile.
(can you also portmanteau cultural phenomenons or word only?)


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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby zenten » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:43 pm UTC

When I was a young child I was rather fond of huggles.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby rrwoods » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:28 pm UTC

zenten wrote:When I was a young child I was rather fond of huggles.

Hug/snuggle? I've seen the word used a bunch but I didn't know it was a portmanteau. I'd always assumed it was just a childish/cuddly form of "hug".
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby zenten » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:41 pm UTC

rrwoods wrote:
zenten wrote:When I was a young child I was rather fond of huggles.

Hug/snuggle? I've seen the word used a bunch but I didn't know it was a portmanteau. I'd always assumed it was just a childish/cuddly form of "hug".


We meant it to mean hug+cuddle, but yeah.

It was sort of an in between. Longer than a hug, not as involved as a cuddle.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby kellsbells » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:46 pm UTC

Number3Pencils wrote:Automagically.

Yeah, I use "mathemagical" quite often. The magic/matic things is just so convenient.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:47 pm UTC

zenten wrote:
rrwoods wrote:
zenten wrote:When I was a young child I was rather fond of huggles.

Hug/snuggle? I've seen the word used a bunch but I didn't know it was a portmanteau. I'd always assumed it was just a childish/cuddly form of "hug".

We meant it to mean hug+cuddle, but yeah.

It was sort of an in between. Longer than a hug, not as involved as a cuddle.

I generally thought of it as a cutesy way of saying "hug", which then elicits the hug/snuggle combination as a result of its form.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Owehn » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:50 pm UTC

If I heard "huggle", I'd assume it was formed from "hug" plus the frequentative ending "-le" (like in "wrestle", "bobble", and "sparkle"), which seems to fit the way zenten was using it.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby rrwoods » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:53 pm UTC

So it's a backmanteau. Like a backronym, only with portmanteaux.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Owehn » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:20 pm UTC

I'd prefer "starboardmanteau". :D I see what you mean, though, and it all depends on the actual origin of Zenten's "huggle". If it was formed from "hug" and "snuggle", then it's a portmanteau and I'd be assigning it an erroneous etymology. If someone (even unwittingly) formed it from "hug"+"-le", then I'd be right and calling it a portmanteau of "hug" and "snuggle" would be a backmanteau starboardmanteau.

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby rrwoods » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:25 pm UTC

Owehn wrote:I'd prefer "starboardmanteau".

Funny you should mention that, because a few friends and I had thought of the concept of the backmanteau... and one of those friends suggested starboardmanteau for the name.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:14 pm UTC

rrwoods wrote:So it's a backmanteau. Like a backronym, only with portmanteaux.


A backronym is a portmanteau in itself, shirley? We're heading into the Nether Regions of Neologism, here.

Backronymanteux-pas: The act of making a social blunder when trying to use an inverse acronym that was once a portmanteau but is now just a made-up word that will never be used to describe anything; ergo is redundant; ergo is the reason you made the social blunder in the first place. There's only actually one specific event in which this word can be used.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Will » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:34 pm UTC

Tycho once posited lexiconnoisseur, which is a person who enjoys making up words and then telling people about it. It's a great word.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:53 am UTC

liza wrote:
kellsbells wrote:Well for calculus my friends and I use "derivitate", which is a portmanteau of "derive" and "differentiate".

I have to wonder how common this is. I and friends used the variant "derivate" in Calc. I know other fora-members have mentioned using similar portmanteaus.


I use differentiate because I find it fun to say, but I must say the verb for "take the derivative" fluctuates and is semi-improvised for most of my class.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby katieshrike » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:09 pm UTC

I always like "Vagitarian" which came from an episode of Loveline which went like this:

Dr Drew: Why dont you use condoms?
Caller: I'm allergic to latex.
Dr. Drew: Well they have animal skin condoms, you can use those.
Caller: Yeah... eh.
Dr. Drew: Whats wrong with that?
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby You, sir, name? » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:16 pm UTC

Number3Pencils wrote:Automagically.


I second (third?) that.

I find use for "sacrelicious" (sacreligious + delicious) disproportionally often.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby oxoiron » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:17 pm UTC

Gunt.

I feel dirty even typing that.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby cypherspace » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:27 am UTC

I also like automagically. A wonderful word. Ginormous is a classic. Spunkadelic and funkalicious are also personal favourites.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:24 pm UTC

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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Actaeus » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:45 am UTC

Numberologics, linguinomics or academiology?
Or I could make some up myself.
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Re: Portmanteaux

Postby Felstaff » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:56 pm UTC

I'm no doctologist, but it doesn't take a scientician to make up a good portmanteau.

For those that follow the English football, um, soccer, you'll probably be aware of the numerous 'cupsets' that happened over the weekend.
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