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Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:15 am UTC
by whitelightwhiteheat
I loved this movie. The first movie i've seen where i've been generally scared
Anyone else feel the same?
or any one hate it? i havent seen a bad word said against it
just interested in opinions, and reccomendations for anything else scary
cheers

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:21 am UTC
by sje46
whitelightwhiteheat wrote:or any one hate it? i havent seen a bad word said against it

David Lynch is an over-hyped pompous perverted douchebag whogave a million people nightmares and in his own self-importance believes that 9/11 is a hoax. He also wrote the worst comic of all time, and almost ruined the constrained-comic form. HE is good with atmosphere and mood and whatall, but that doesn't change the fact that I hate the man.

I haven't seen the movie, but read a few reviews, the wikipedia article, and watched a few clips on Youtube. Seems interesting nightmare fuel. I want to watch it.

That said,
Spoiler:
Image


Also, I like your name, whitelight/whiteheat

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:53 pm UTC
by BMW787
I thought it was a good movie. I thought that plot-wise there wasnt much there, but thats how it is whith his movies. It was definitly creepy.

Especially
Spoiler:
The disembodied baby's lizard head floating around the room grown to enormous size. I dont think I can watch it again because of that


On a side note: "In heaven, everything is fine."

I think one of his best films is Lost Highway. You should watch it.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:03 pm UTC
by shieldforyoureyes
Eraserhead was a huge influence on Tetsuo: Iron Man. See that.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:29 am UTC
by whitelightwhiteheat
sje46 wrote:
whitelightwhiteheat wrote:or any one hate it? i havent seen a bad word said against it

David Lynch is an over-hyped pompous perverted douchebag whogave a million people nightmares and in his own self-importance believes that 9/11 is a hoax. He also wrote the worst comic of all time, and almost ruined the constrained-comic form. HE is good with atmosphere and mood and whatall, but that doesn't change the fact that I hate the man.

I haven't seen the movie, but read a few reviews, the wikipedia article, and watched a few clips on Youtube. Seems interesting nightmare fuel. I want to watch it.

That said,
Spoiler:
Image


Also, I like your name, whitelight/whiteheat



yeah my mate doesnt like him because of the dune movie.
and ill admit it looks like eraserhead is the only decent thing hes done
i watched it at like 11 at night with no lights on and its definitely nightmare fuel
i wish i could say i like your name but it doesnt mean anything to me haha

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:48 am UTC
by TheAmazingRando
whitelightwhiteheat wrote:and ill admit it looks like eraserhead is the only decent thing hes done
No way. Blue Velvet is amazing, as is Mulholland Dr. and Twin Peaks (the show and the movie). The Elephant Man I sort of put in a separate category, since it's nowhere near as strange as his other work, is a critically acclaimed classic.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:45 am UTC
by cephalopod9
Ooh, Elephant Man, I read that when I was 13, I should revisit it sometime.

Eraserhead reminded me a lot of night mares I've had, so calling it nightmare fuel seems redundant. Specifically
Spoiler:
The small vulnerable thing that needs taking care of getting horribly injured in a quasi accident, and then writhing in agony where it's unclear whether it could be saved or just be put out of its misery.
:shudder: I had to turn the volume down at the end there.

...The Achewood comic is much funnier now that I've seen it.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:44 am UTC
by novax6
I fucking hated this movie. I had to watch it for a film class and it was the only movie I literally struggled to keep watching. I understand that the man is a technical wizard and his style is very interesting and unique, and there are tons of metaphors and symbolism present in it, but jesus, I've never seen a more depressing, bleak, and just flat out painful to watch movie.

Then again, I have to at least appreciate the fact that it brought out such a strong reaction out of me. If that was his intention, then mission: accomplished. I would rather have someone knock me unconscious then be forced to see it again.
Would not watch again.

Eraserhead

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:25 pm UTC
by Chibbell
I finally watched Eraserhead last night. I always find myself intrigued by Lynch's work but never got around to his debut. It's such an acclaimed piece I felt that I was perhaps doing myself a diservice by not having seen it.

Dark, bleak, miserable and futile are just a few of the words needed to describe it. It was definitely an interesting movie and I'm glad I've watched it finally. If nothing else I'll at least understand references to it.

While an intriguing movie I can't help but feel it's no longer necessary. It's long been surpassed by the works it inspired. In a sense its almost a parody of itself, feeling like the first film of an art student. But then I ask myself if something can be a cliche of itself. I suppose it can, given that its over 30 years out of its context now. Without an intense understanding of the film landscape during its making, it is hard to judge it on the relevant merits of its own time. I can only judge it as it stands today, and today it feels disingenuous and puerile. Perhaps masturbatory even.

In my youth I would have thoroughly enjoyed this film, debating its merits, the hidden messages, trying to understand what its all about. Perhaps as I've grown a little older, and hopefully a little wiser, I find I don't have tolerance for such debate and instead try to cut to the chase. The film was disturbing and fear of a variety of things is the obvious message of the film. Perhaps it means a lot more but I'm not sure I care.

In the end I felt a little sad for the world and immediately went and watched an episode of 30 Rock that had been sitting in my Netflix queue.

Oh yeah. Hi everybody. SecondTalon demanded I join the board so if you don't like this, blame him. And, of course, I forgot to mention to search for pre-existing topics. -ST

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:16 pm UTC
by SirMustapha
I'm fairly convinced that it's pointless to look for a "meaning" in Eraserhead, especially after I read that episode of Lynch saying there is one phrase in the Bible that explains perfectly the whole work. To me, that sounds like the prank of a man with a very sharp sense of humour, and I like that.

I think it's interesting to look at the film in a "not-horror" or a "not-disturbing" light; not necessarily as "comedy", but as something not intended to scare or shock. For one, I was pretty amused when I realised that

Spoiler:
the title of the film is way more literal than it seems.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:15 am UTC
by Midnight
Yeah I dunno why y'allz hating on him. David Lynch is a fucking G.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:28 am UTC
by Thesh
Eraserhead isn't a movie to watch if you are looking for a good story; it is more art than entertainment. This is a great movie to watch if you want to be completely confused and weirded out. I don't try and analyze it too much as I don't feel the need to find any meaning in it.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:52 am UTC
by cephalopod9
Chibbell wrote:While an intriguing movie I can't help but feel it's no longer necessary. It's long been surpassed by the works it inspired.
Which are those?

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:53 pm UTC
by Jesse
I was informed in film class that Lynch's Eraserhead was an attempt to make a film with no meaning. Although as far as I can see it's a nightmare on the fear of industrialism.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:34 pm UTC
by Chibbell
cephalopod9 wrote:
Chibbell wrote:While an intriguing movie I can't help but feel it's no longer necessary. It's long been surpassed by the works it inspired.
Which are those?


The best example would be Kubrick's, The Shining. The Machinist definitely comes to mind. Maybe The City of Lost Children. I even think Pan's Labyrinth could fit in there.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:24 pm UTC
by Midnight
I think that you just said "I feel this movie isn't important because it influenced a lot of good movies." Which is utterly illogical.

I would agree, though, that Lynch is a lot of style to dance around the substance--which is there--but in my opinion it's not nearly 'there' as diehard Lynch fans say. Style over substance works for plenty of people (William Gibson comes to mind.)

...which is why I think only David Lynch could do an excellently dark and trippy Neuromancer movie.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:38 am UTC
by cephalopod9
I think the point was that it's less impactful or significant on an individual level now that it's been surpassed by it's descendants.
Chibbell wrote:
cephalopod9 wrote:
Chibbell wrote:While an intriguing movie I can't help but feel it's no longer necessary. It's long been surpassed by the works it inspired.
Which are those?
The best example would be Kubrick's, The Shining. The Machinist definitely comes to mind. Maybe The City of Lost Children. I even think Pan's Labyrinth could fit in there.

That seems like a broad list. I haven't seen the start of the Shining, there's some similar horror elements and atmosphere building, but the connection seems sort of tenuous. Has Kubrick directly cited Lynch as an inspiration? It would make sense, and once something has been absorbed by the collective conscience it's sort of impossible to completely rule it out as an influence. I don't see the connection at all to Pans Labyrinth, aside form creepy fetuses, I don't see anything they have in common. I'll have to look up the other two.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:01 pm UTC
by no-genius
Midnight wrote:Style over substance works for plenty of people (William Gibson comes to mind.)

Even if that's true for Neuromancer, I don't think it is for Pattern Recognition.


Having watched all of Twin Peaks, I'll probably watch Eraserhead again at some point

(edit: but the DVD box is totally lying when it says its in colour)

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:47 pm UTC
by theGoldenCalf;
I love most of Lynch's work and Eraserhead is one of my favorites. First heard of it as a teenager when looking for horror movies to watch, and for some reason Eraserhead was listed somewhere. Ended up watching Lost Highway* - and nearly all of Lynch's catalog - before finally giving Eraserhead a try, so I knew pretty much what to expect.

The whole baby thing creeped me out of my mind. The fear of fatherhood it represents is of course grotesquely exaggerated (as is all the rest of the film), but as a new father I can honestly say it does touch a nerve.

* which for some reason was also listed as horror and played in the cinemas at the time

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:19 am UTC
by Dustin
I'll try not to give any spoilers, but I cannot imagine actually being disturbed by this movie. Even the climax, which has individual moments that are really uncomfortable, is wrecked by a certain large, ridiculous-looking prop.

That said, I love this movie. I love it's sound design, it's pretty blacks, and the behind the scenes stories for it. But I'm certainly not disturbed by it.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:53 am UTC
by theGoldenCalf;
It's true that the images themselves may not be that upsetting, but the messages they convey sure flipped my switches. The visit to the girl's parents, the factory scene, the baby.. It puts the spotlight on distressing things in life very effectively, at least for me.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:03 am UTC
by Dustin
theGoldenCalf; wrote: It puts the spotlight on distressing things in life very effectively, at least for me.


Image

That must be a breeder thing.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:06 am UTC
by SecondTalon
Breeder thing?

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:13 am UTC
by theGoldenCalf;
Yea, I'm drawing blanks as well. It may have something to do with Lynch himself looking like something out of Eraserhead in his later years.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:24 am UTC
by Dustin
Nah, I just meant David Lynch is laughing at your post.

Breeder is a slang term for a heterosexual.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:28 pm UTC
by Jesse
Really? I always thought it was an insulting term for a woman.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:30 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Dustin wrote:Breeder is a slang term for a heterosexual.
That's.. more or less what I thought you meant.

I don't care what your personal beliefs on opposite-sex couples, I'd appreciate it if we could refrain from using slurs against them.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:42 pm UTC
by theGoldenCalf;
...and I still don't quite get it :)

EDIT: oh wait a minute... nice

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:03 am UTC
by Lenoracle
I agree with what someone said as the movie was moreso art. I mean Eraserhead expressed an amazing atmosphere which I guess is a talent Lynch brought to his later films. What I remember the most is after both times I watched it I left it feeling like I was in another world. I couldn't shake the atmosphere it left me with for a while and get back to reality. And once I watched it in a university class so it was weird to walk out of that movie and into my next class without an adjustment. I think that's what you should go into it expecting.

I was a big fan of Lynch in my first year of university but in the years since I've come to find alot of his movies try too hard to be out there and weird. But Blue Velvet is definitely my favorite, that movie is amazing and his best in my opinion.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:28 pm UTC
by existential_elevator
theGoldenCalf; wrote:It's true that the images themselves may not be that upsetting...
Honestly, when I watched this movie, the visuals creeped me out. I found the whole thing very disturbing. Perhaps that's just to do with how willing you are to suspend disbelief?

It's also pretty interesting to watch this film in tandem with Lynch's other short films. They're perhaps more stylisically similar than the later movies. That said, I think Eraserhead was maybe my least favourite Lynch film. Too much disturbing, and so little meaning to be drawn from it. Not a bad thing at all, per se, but I don't think I'll watch it again in a hurry.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:11 pm UTC
by TheAmazingRando
I watched this movie again recently, and it seemed far more coherent than I remembered, definitely more coherent than most of Lynch's other films. There were a few moments that seemed surreal just for the sake of being surreal, which I think is the guiding principle behind most of Lynch's films, but for the most part the imagery seemed meaningful, almost to the point of being heavy-handed. Though I feel Lynch's cinematography and atmosphere keeps it from feeling amateurish, which sets it apart from all the shoddy art-school stuff it inspired.

Re: Eraserhead

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:01 am UTC
by theGoldenCalf;
TheAmazingRando wrote:I watched this movie again recently, and it seemed far more coherent than I remembered, definitely more coherent than most of Lynch's other films.


That's because in Eraserhead he pounds you to a pulp with the messages to the point where there's no getting around it, while in Lost Highway, Mullholland Drive or Inland Empire there's much more going on to obscure the message and make the whole thing ambiguous and puzzling.