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Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:35 am UTC

I haven't found much about this film, save this UNBELIEVABLEtrailer.

It's like, Ferngully meets Nightmare before Christmas animation, meets Matrix meets FALLOUT.

Ima go change my pants.

Also, can someone tell me what the guitar lick is that plays near the end of the trailer? I can't peg it.

Edit: Based on this short?

Edit: Thanks for the song ref!
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Postby pseudoidiot » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:14 am UTC

That does look pretty interesting.

Also, that's a Coheed & Cambria song, I believe. Not sure which one.
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Re: 9

Postby Mzyxptlk » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:46 am UTC

This looks interesting indeed. The song is Welcome Home.
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Re: 9

Postby Ati » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:22 am UTC

I watched the original short, and it seemed quite good. This is definitely going on my watch list. Nice to see a decent-looking SF (sort of) film going out that's. Not. Another. Fracking. Sequel.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:32 am UTC

Where he opens the window, that's almost the same compositional shot as when Eric Draven puts on his makeup for the first time.

Sweeeeeeeet.

Also, I'm impressed they picked the only good Coheed song I've ever heard.

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Re: 9

Postby McCaber » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:01 am UTC

This looks sweet. Like a twisted mash-up of LittleBIGPlanet and Fallout.
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Re: 9

Postby Cryopyre » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:43 am UTC

There are porn sounds in the beginning of the movie (volume must be turned up pretty high).

And then it sounds like there's a baby crying in 3:03 to 3:09 (again, volume way up)

Which is kinda funky, but obviously a joke.
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Re: 9

Postby Zuffox » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:58 pm UTC

I'm mildly enthusiastic. Corpse Bride was so-so, and Sweeney Todd was a complete dud. I'm sure Burton hasn't lost it though, having made the wondrous Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

I'm more psyched about Coraline, though, as it seems to be the spiritual successor to Nightmare before Christmas with Elfman and Henry Selick behind it.

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Postby Ati » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:02 am UTC

Zuffox wrote:I'm mildly enthusiastic. Corpse Bride was so-so, and Sweeney Todd was a complete dud. I'm sure Burton hasn't lost it though, having made the wondrous Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.



Really? I hated Charlie and the Chocolate factory with the fire of a thousand suns. I quite liked Sweeney Todd. You're right, though. Corpse Bride was really quite mediocre.
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Re: 9

Postby Zuffox » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:03 am UTC

Ati wrote:
Zuffox wrote:I'm mildly enthusiastic. Corpse Bride was so-so, and Sweeney Todd was a complete dud. I'm sure Burton hasn't lost it though, having made the wondrous Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.



Really? I hated Charlie and the Chocolate factory with the fire of a thousand suns. I quite liked Sweeney Todd. You're right, though. Corpse Bride was really quite mediocre.

I've never read the book nor seen the original movie - is the adaption what's bothering you?

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:08 am UTC

By itself, it was very hit and miss. Compared to the original, it was hit and miss and miss and miss and miss...

The kids in the new one were awesome, and Deep Roy was AWESOME as the Oompa-Loompas. The rest of the movie can go f*** itself. Big time. However, Burton has made so much spectacular awesomeness in his time that a few late-career flubs can be forgiven, and we're all hoping 9 will be the Tim we miss.

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Re: 9

Postby Malice » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:22 am UTC

Zuffox wrote:
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Zuffox wrote:I'm mildly enthusiastic. Corpse Bride was so-so, and Sweeney Todd was a complete dud. I'm sure Burton hasn't lost it though, having made the wondrous Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.



Really? I hated Charlie and the Chocolate factory with the fire of a thousand suns. I quite liked Sweeney Todd. You're right, though. Corpse Bride was really quite mediocre.

I've never read the book nor seen the original movie - is the adaption what's bothering you?


The original movie is a squintillion times better. That's been scientifically verified. Go watch it. Let your eyes be opened.
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Postby Ati » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:45 am UTC

Zuffox wrote:
Ati wrote:
Zuffox wrote:I'm mildly enthusiastic. Corpse Bride was so-so, and Sweeney Todd was a complete dud. I'm sure Burton hasn't lost it though, having made the wondrous Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.



Really? I hated Charlie and the Chocolate factory with the fire of a thousand suns. I quite liked Sweeney Todd. You're right, though. Corpse Bride was really quite mediocre.

I've never read the book nor seen the original movie - is the adaption what's bothering you?



Yes, very much so. Look, Johhny Depp is a decent actor, but he's not Gene Wilder. He's not even close. The first one was... fairly faithful to the book. The remake crossed the line from the absurdity of the book into plain old stupidity. The character of Willy Wonka was completely wrong. Do yourself a favor, and watch the first one. You'll see what I mean.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:50 pm UTC

The new Willy Wonka was truer to the book. I agree, Gene Wilder was fantastic, but it was, in my opinion, fantastic in the same way Jack Nicholson was fantastic as the Joker. It's a different time, a different interpretation of the character, and that doesn't make it better or worse, just different.

Personally, I liked Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka more, and thought Jack Nicholson's Joker was inferior to Heath Ledger.
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Postby Ati » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:19 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:The new Willy Wonka was truer to the book. I agree, Gene Wilder was fantastic, but it was, in my opinion, fantastic in the same way Jack Nicholson was fantastic as the Joker. It's a different time, a different interpretation of the character, and that doesn't make it better or worse, just different.

Personally, I liked Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka more, and thought Jack Nicholson's Joker was inferior to Heath Ledger.


Well, one of my primary beefs was that Johhny Depp was way, way too young. One of the central motivations for the character was that Wonka was an old man who was dying, and who needed to pass on his legacy. Somehow, that got re-imagined as a mid life crises by some guy obviously in his twenties. Also, the whole dentist thing was really unnecessary. Honestly, the second one felt way too slick, both from a visual perspective and from a story one. It was a candy-toned film, and the Roald Dahl story couldn't have been further from that. I dunno, maybe I'm being too harsh. I grew up on RD and the original film, so I'm probably fairly biased.

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Re: 9

Postby thepope » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:32 pm UTC

That trailer is a hype-machine like no other.
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Postby Malice » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:31 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:The new Willy Wonka was truer to the book. I agree, Gene Wilder was fantastic, but it was, in my opinion, fantastic in the same way Jack Nicholson was fantastic as the Joker. It's a different time, a different interpretation of the character, and that doesn't make it better or worse, just different.

Personally, I liked Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka more, and thought Jack Nicholson's Joker was inferior to Heath Ledger.


It's not just Wilder's performance (although you're wrong*), it's the whole movie. It's the fact that the original was actually written by Roald Dahl, who knew how best to adapt his own book (with massive amounts of humor and the occasional bit of scary surrealism), and the difference in effects. Part of the joy of Wonka's factory is how, at crucial moments, it doesn't seem to make sense (for instance, the room near the beginning of the tour where they're all stuck--"You're nuts, Wonka, that's the door we came in!" "Is it?"), and the only way that works is if you use "real" effects instead of CGI. The new movie looks entirely fake to me.

*Wilder and Ledger are both superior because their performances are of mysterious characters. You spend the entire movie trying to figure out what they're about, and alternately being amused and horrified at what they do. Depp pushes the weirdness too far, so that it's no longer wrapped in a charming exterior (imagine if the Joker was just violent and nothing else), and the script gives him that fucking stupid backstory to explain his character, which ruins the whole concept.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:12 am UTC

I'm a bit bemused that you said my opinion was wrong.
I don't disagree with your assessments. However, the original BOOK, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, included Willy Wonka's backstory of being the son of a dentist who abhorred candy, and his subsequent running away to start a chocolate factory.
Depp portrayed him in a manner of weirdness that was different. I don't think you can really pull 'right' or 'wrong' in terms of who did better man, it's all subjective, and we're actually in agreement.

Ati brought up the good point that Depp appeared too young, which I agree with also.

Back to the awesomeness that is 9, however, I'm wonder what you all think of Elijah Woods ability to do anything aside from be a stupid hobbit?
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:03 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I'm a bit bemused that you said my opinion was wrong.

It's Malice. Get used to it.

Elijah Wood was a Hobbit? I know him mostly from playing a psychopathic werewolf, a targeted memory erasure technician, and the first man to cross Victoria Falls using rope.

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Re: 9

Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:04 am UTC

Touche. I'm also not a fan of Jennifer Connelly, but only because I feel manipulated by those eyes and single, perfectly timed tear.

I love that the movie lends itself to making a perfect videogame.
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Postby Malice » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:22 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I'm a bit bemused that you said my opinion was wrong.


*shrugs* Opinions can be wrong. I don't disagree that you liked one better than the other.

I don't disagree with your assessments. However, the original BOOK, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, included Willy Wonka's backstory of being the son of a dentist who abhorred candy, and his subsequent running away to start a chocolate factory.


Did it really? How odd.
Well, I think the first movie is better than the original book, anyway.

Back to the awesomeness that is 9, however, I'm wonder what you all think of Elijah Woods ability to do anything aside from be a stupid hobbit?


A hobbit isn't really like an elf in that you have to "play" that role. Elijah Wood's character was not "hobbit", it was "reluctant hero" and he was damn good at it. Also, what MJ said.
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Postby Ati » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:49 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:However, the original BOOK, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, included Willy Wonka's backstory of being the son of a dentist who abhorred candy, and his subsequent running away to start a chocolate factory.


Are you sure? I really, really don't remember that...

-goes to find copy to check-
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Re: 9

Postby ssbookyu123 » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:39 am UTC

Wow that looks like a great movie. Demented but cute sock puppets giagantic machines and apocoipice landscape the perfect movie.

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Re: 9

Postby Clumpy » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:35 am UTC

Keep in mind that there's another portion of a song in the trailer - "The Captain" by one of my favorite electronica groups, The Knife.

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Re: 9

Postby clockworkmonk » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:34 am UTC

what makes me excited about this is Timur Bekmambetov's involvement.

He directed the Nightwatch and Daywatch movies.

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Re: 9

Postby Lewton » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:55 am UTC

Malice wrote:It's the fact that the original was actually written by Roald Dahl, who knew how best to adapt his own book


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Re: 9

Postby Ubik » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:10 am UTC

I feel it is a bit unfair to call this (exclusively) a Tim Burton film. I'm pretty sure he has affected it, but the director of this movie is still the same guy who directed the original short film which it is based on.

Edit: And the film really seems interesting despite that trailer music which doesn't sound fitting. (And I'm referring to the one that plays in the last half of the trailer. And if I had paid enough attention to the few first messages, I could have referred to Coheed & Cambria more specifically.)

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Postby Jesse » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:44 am UTC

clockworkmonk wrote:what makes me excited about this is Timur Bekmambetov's involvement.

He directed the Nightwatch and Daywatch movies.

And Wanted.


I thought all three of those were terrible, although in all cases I was watching after having read the source material.

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Postby headprogrammingczar » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:55 am UTC

They said he was involved, not that he was running the whole show. There are a few things he does pretty well, and as long as he doesn't try to do anything besides that, the movie will be much improved by his involvement.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:11 pm UTC

Jesse wrote:
clockworkmonk wrote:what makes me excited about this is Timur Bekmambetov's involvement.

He directed the Nightwatch and Daywatch movies.

And Wanted.


I thought all three of those were terrible, although in all cases I was watching after having read the source material.


They were visually stunning when they wanted to be.
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Re: 9

Postby clockworkmonk » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:15 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:
Jesse wrote:
clockworkmonk wrote:what makes me excited about this is Timur Bekmambetov's involvement.

He directed the Nightwatch and Daywatch movies.

And Wanted.


I thought all three of those were terrible, although in all cases I was watching after having read the source material.


They were visually stunning when they wanted to be.


Thats kinda what I had in mind. He butchered the source material, but they did look good.
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Postby smw543 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:07 pm UTC

clockworkmonk wrote:Thats kinda what I had in mind. He butchered the source material, but they did look good.
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I mean, um, this movie looks pretty good. Beautiful style, and some impressive cast members (I would never have expected Martin Landau or Christopher Plummer. And George McFly!) I don't normally see movies in theaters, maybe two or three per year, but this looks like a worthy way to spend $8.
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Postby Gentlelady » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:36 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:
I love that the movie lends itself to making a perfect videogame.



I thought the exact thing when I first watched the trailer. I don't care for Tim Burton films but I would like to see this.
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Re: 9

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:22 pm UTC

Just bought tickets! Whoo!
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:24 pm UTC

Taking my son to see it this weekend. Must... not... read... spoilerators!

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Re: 9

Postby Amnesiasoft » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:04 pm UTC

Hmm... It's a good thing I still have some super-duper-use-on-anything-even-no-pass-attractions-and-no-expiration-date-movie-tickets.

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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:29 pm UTC

Very action oriented flick, cannot WAIT for the videogame. Little on the short side, little lacking in depth, but meh.
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Postby shieldforyoureyes » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:04 pm UTC

Love the original short, the preview looks good, looking forward to it. Probably won't see it until it's on DVD.

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Re: 9

Postby Vieto » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:45 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Very action oriented flick, cannot WAIT for the videogame. Little on the short side, little lacking in depth, but meh.


I think this is a case where the video-game came first (LB planet)


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