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Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:50 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
Anyone else get the sense that Stannis is Autistic? Inability to connect with others, obsession with the rules?

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:52 pm UTC
by roband
I think that diagnosing autism has become such a trendy thing to do that you're now doing it to a character who's pretty much just "cold and stern".

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:58 pm UTC
by redraw
roband wrote:I think that diagnosing autism has become such a trendy thing to do that you're now doing it to a character who's pretty much just "cold and stern".


Yeah I agree, or maybe he has aspergers

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:08 pm UTC
by raudorn

I admit, I read the first two sentences paragraphs, then bookmarked and closed the tab again. It became very obvious that this would not just spoil a few minutes of the show (like Joffrey's thing), but potentially much more. I will however read all of it very carefully the moment I close the backcover of the last book.

Yakk & Adacore & LaserGuy wrote:[Stuff about the wall]

I was about to post a thousand and one things I thought about on my commute from work, but then I remembered to ask myself if I still care, so no. I concede that maybe what the Wildlings did was not so stupid after all.

Edit: Paragraphs, not sentences, where is my head today?

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:59 pm UTC
by Yakk
raudorn wrote:

I admit, I read the first two sentences paragraphs, then bookmarked and closed the tab again. It became very obvious that this would not just spoil a few minutes of the show (like Joffrey's thing), but potentially much more. I will however read all of it very carefully the moment I close the backcover of the last book.
Yes, that contains spoilers like an atomic race car.

Again, even the URL in that spoiler block above contains spoilers. And the website is pages of such speculation.

It probably isn't safe reading it after you have read the last currently published book.

I only shared it because you expressed interest.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:08 am UTC
by Ryom
The wall has spells embedded in it to repel Wights and White Walkers, not wildlings (humans).

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:47 am UTC
by Diadem
The wall is clearly magical, but it's not clear exactly how it works. It's obviously not a perfect protection, or there would be no need to garrison it. The Night's Watch was not founded to keep Wildlings out, after all. And it is heavily implied that if the Wildlings will manage to get past the wall, then it will lose its function against White Walkers as well, though in what manner is not clear.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:20 pm UTC
by LaserGuy
Minor spoiler on upcoming season 5 (casting related, not book related).

Spoiler:
Hodor has confirmed that he and Bran will not be appearing in Season 5. Also, Hodor is a professional DJ.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:30 pm UTC
by freezeblade
above news article wrote:Nairn is currently touring Australia with his DJ show Rave Of Thrones

This makes my day.

Also, I suspose this answers the queston of what they are going to do about the bran/hodor storyline, as they've pretty much used up all the book material so far.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:56 pm UTC
by ArgonV
freezeblade wrote:
above news article wrote:Nairn is currently touring Australia with his DJ show Rave Of Thrones

This makes my day.

Also, I suspose this answers the queston of what they are going to do about the bran/hodor storyline, as they've pretty much used up all the book material so far.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Spoiler:
So is Sansa's, right? So they're just not going to show her for an entire season as well?

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:22 pm UTC
by Lazar
ArgonV wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Spoiler:
So is Sansa's, right? So they're just not going to show her for an entire season as well?

Spoiler:
Sophie Turner says that exciting, surprising stuff will happen to Sansa in season 5, so presumably they're creating new material for the show.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:07 pm UTC
by LaserGuy
re: Casting discussion above

Spoiler:
There is still a bit of material in the books for Sansa's plotline that has not been covered yet. There is realistically probably enough material remaining for a few episodes with a bit of filler since she doesn't get that much screen time anyway (though neither does Bran). There is also some divergence between the show and book storylines which may allow for more flexibility without pulling too far ahead of the books.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:11 pm UTC
by Yakk
With sansa (next season)
Spoiler:
There is that entire who-is-worthy to rule the vale plot
which I don't think was resolved last season was it?

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:50 pm UTC
by SlyReaper
Bear in mind that GRRM is a consultant of sorts in the writing of the TV show. While he may not have finished writing the 6th book, he'll have an idea of where he wants the story to go. Whole chapters may have been completed. So they could use material that hasn't been published in ASOIAF yet.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:02 pm UTC
by ArgonV
It could also mean the one storyline is more critical to get right than the other?

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:37 am UTC
by Diadem
SlyReaper wrote:Bear in mind that GRRM is a consultant of sorts in the writing of the TV show. While he may not have finished writing the 6th book, he'll have an idea of where he wants the story to go. Whole chapters may have been completed. So they could use material that hasn't been published in ASOIAF yet.

Also, while GRRM is a writer, and the books are making him a lot of money, the tv series is probably making him huge frigging shitloads of money. I would not be surprised if he was more focused on keeping the tv show on the rails by providing material for them, than on finishing the last few books.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:21 pm UTC
by Dark567
Diadem wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:Bear in mind that GRRM is a consultant of sorts in the writing of the TV show. While he may not have finished writing the 6th book, he'll have an idea of where he wants the story to go. Whole chapters may have been completed. So they could use material that hasn't been published in ASOIAF yet.

Also, while GRRM is a writer, and the books are making him a lot of money, the tv series is probably making him huge frigging shitloads of money. I would not be surprised if he was more focused on keeping the tv show on the rails by providing material for them, than on finishing the last few books.

Honestly I don't think he cares that much about the money. He went to HBO with this for substantially less money than he could have made from selling it to a studio for feature film rights, specifically because he didn't want his story butchered and he was excited to see his characters and world come to life(and lets be honest, there is no practical way to do ASOIAF via films). He works with the TV show because he wants them to get it right and that's going be what keeps it on the rails.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:28 pm UTC
by Adam H
Dark567 wrote:
Diadem wrote:Also, while GRRM is a writer, and the books are making him a lot of money, the tv series is probably making him huge frigging shitloads of money. I would not be surprised if he was more focused on keeping the tv show on the rails by providing material for them, than on finishing the last few books.

Honestly I don't think he cares that much about the money. He went to HBO with this for substantially less money than he could have made from selling it to a studio for feature film rights, specifically because he didn't want his story butchered and he was excited to see his characters and world come to life(and lets be honest, there is no practical way to do ASOIAF via films). He works with the TV show because he wants them to get it right and that's going be what keeps it on the rails.
I think he cares a little about money and a lot about fame and glory.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:36 pm UTC
by SlyReaper
Apropos of nothing, I am most of the way through the third book, and the Starks have just arrived at The Twins for Edmure's wedding. I... I almost don't want to continue reading, because I know what happens next.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:47 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
There are some minor parts of the RW in the book that are missing from the show. You'll notice them.

Minor book spoiler
Spoiler:
The food is awful but plenty of wine
The musicians are awful as well

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:32 pm UTC
by LaserGuy
Adam H wrote:
Dark567 wrote:
Diadem wrote:Also, while GRRM is a writer, and the books are making him a lot of money, the tv series is probably making him huge frigging shitloads of money. I would not be surprised if he was more focused on keeping the tv show on the rails by providing material for them, than on finishing the last few books.


Honestly I don't think he cares that much about the money. He went to HBO with this for substantially less money than he could have made from selling it to a studio for feature film rights, specifically because he didn't want his story butchered and he was excited to see his characters and world come to life(and lets be honest, there is no practical way to do ASOIAF via films). He works with the TV show because he wants them to get it right and that's going be what keeps it on the rails.


I think he cares a little about money and a lot about fame and glory.


He has certainly indicated in interviews that he is not upset by the "dumptruck full of money" that HBO has given him. Not that he should be.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:18 am UTC
by Lazar
I pronounce HBO GO as H-Bogo, so it rhymes with Drogo.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:23 am UTC
by Boyd1
Where can i watch "Game of Thrones" with English subtitles?

The show "game of thrones" season 1.....where can i watch in online with English captions/subtitles under the screen
thanks

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:07 pm UTC
by Adacore
I imagine any service that offers it online (HBO Go, for example?) will have an option for subtitles. I could be wrong, though - I've not used it myself.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:03 am UTC
by Lucrece
If the latest interview with the Fairley happens to be true instead of being taken out of context, I'm gonna be pissed.

Spoiler:
It was already a stretch to cut Jojen Reed out of the story. Cutting Lady Stoneheart out is just dumb. There are few characters as iconic as her, and she was a major vehicle for vindicating the audience through some sense of vengeance.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:06 am UTC
by Dark567
Lucrece wrote:
Spoiler:
I
It was already a stretch to cut Jojen Reed out of the story. Cutting Lady Stoneheart out is just dumb. There are few characters as iconic as her, and she was a major vehicle for vindicating the audience through some sense of vengeance.
Spoilers concerning Lady Stoneheart
Spoiler:
If they cut her, I have to believe its because she decided not to come back, and not for creative reasons. D&D love to shock people and that would have been pretty shocking(well at least it would have then, now it seems like its spoiled for everyone).

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:46 pm UTC
by Chen
Uh spoilers much there Lucrece?

Anyways, regarding Jojen, it's not obvious whether he had much of a future role or not in the books anyways. The series has caught up with Bran's story in the books (so much so that I believe they said he won't be in next season), so its quite possible Jojen's fate on the show is something that's going to happen one or two chapters into the next book anyways.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:44 am UTC
by Lazar
Azor a Pie.
The Pie That Was Promised.
The Warden of the Yeast.
The Torte Commander.
The Knight of Flour.
The Lord o' Scones.
The Usyruper.

"What is hot may never pie, but rises again, softer and tastier."

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:33 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
Yeah it would be funny to see Hot Pie lead a rebellion and end up on the Iron Throne.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:03 pm UTC
by Lazar
Recently I was watching the Michael Mann movie Heat, and I noticed that the heavily repeated four-note motif that plays during the final scene sounds just like the four-note motif used in Stannis and Melisandre's themes on GoT. I'm not saying so in a bad way – it's a cool motif, and I'd imagine that Heat didn't originate it. I just thought it was a fun little similarity, and to the best of my googling, no one online has pointed it out before.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:40 pm UTC
by Felstaff
That's a Moby song. I guess there are similarities, in that there are, indeed, four notes in the motif.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:01 am UTC
by Lazar
Also the fact that the notes progress in a similar way. I think it's more evident in the martial version used in "Warrior of Light".

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:18 pm UTC
by SlyReaper
A thought occurs about the bizarre seasonal cycle in the GoT world.
Spoiler:
The "Doom of Valyria" as described in the books sounds like a catastrophic seismic upheaval, a whole bunch of volcanos going off at once. As certain characters sail near to it, the sky still glows red, which means the volcanos are still active. Their level of activity could be variable and unpredictable. In years when they're pumping more ash and dust into the air than usual, it would cause significant cooling, perhaps enough to overwhelm the effects of the regular seasons.


Or, you know, magic.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:06 pm UTC
by Yakk
The long winters have been going on for far longer than that. That event happened mere centuries ago.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:20 pm UTC
by Diemo
I am pretty sure that there is Word of God that the season length is magical. Though I cant find a link at the moment.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:35 am UTC
by ArgonV
No, but you're right. GRRM said it's magical, not some elaborate solar system

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:26 am UTC
by Spambot5546
Which is kinda disappointing. I maintained hope for a while that there was no magic in ASoIaF. I love the idea of a story that appears fantastical turning out to be science fiction.

Like here's this medieval setting with knights and dragons and crazy seasons which is actually just a human colony on another planet that reverted to caveman status and eventually built back up to this.

Alas, ASoIaF is not that story... :'(

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:43 pm UTC
by maybeagnostic
Spambot5546 wrote:Like here's this medieval setting with knights and dragons and crazy seasons which is actually just a human colony on another planet that reverted to caveman status and eventually built back up to this.

Alas, ASoIaF is not that story... :'(


Sounds like you'd enjoy Anne McCaffrey's Pern series.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:13 pm UTC
by Zohar
The Majipoor series could also fit the bill.

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:51 am UTC
by Jave D
And Bakker's Prince of Nothing series too... possibly!