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I, Robot

Postby HighCharity » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:32 pm UTC

Holy fuck. I watched this movie last week. That movie was fucking amazing. I have to say, I think this movie is either my favourite ever or in the top 3. Fucking awesome. And it's 4 years old. How did you like it?
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Memo » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:36 pm UTC

I hate it. It destroyed any chance we'll ever have for a good Asimov movie based on those stories in the next decade.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby Gunfingers » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:38 pm UTC

Yeah Will Smith and product placements do not make for a good science fiction movie. I wasn't impressed.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby HighCharity » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:39 pm UTC

As far as I could tell, it was really not based on the book at all, and if it was, very loosely. I may be wrong, though. If you're not comparing it to the book, then it's pretty awesome, yes?
Gunfingers wrote:Yeah Will Smith and product placements do not make for a good science fiction movie. I wasn't impressed.

I liked I am Legend, but mabye I'm just partial to Will Smith. He did an awesome job in I am Legend, and I, Robot wasn't too bad either.
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Postby ekzrated » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

Just recently watched I, Robot and last night watched I Am Legend.

Liked both. Product placement sucked, but as far as movies go, I was very pleased.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby HighCharity » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:44 pm UTC

ekzrated wrote:Just recently watched I, Robot and last night watched I Am Legend.

Liked both. Product placement sucked, but as far as movies go, I was very pleased.


Okay, good. I didn't want to find out that I was, yet again, the only one that liked a certain thing.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:51 pm UTC

I really liked I Robot even though I have read Asimov's robot stories. The film was so far detached from Asimov's work, that it was easy to avoid comparing the two while watching. I consider it to be a stand-alone film, and as such, it does a good job telling a story.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:56 pm UTC

I liked both I, Robot and I Am Legend. I also like Will Smith. :)

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Re: I, Robot

Postby HighCharity » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:59 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:I really liked I Robot even though I have read Asimov's robot stories. The film was so far detached from Asimov's work, that it was easy to avoid comparing the two while watching. I consider it to be a stand-alone film, and as such, it does a good job telling a story.

Yeah, I read the book after watching the movie. There really were very few similarities. It is, indeed, a stand-alone film, as far as I am concerned.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby EdgarJPublius » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:33 pm UTC

I liked it as a sci-fi action flick, the product placement ranked enough on the 'unintentionally hilarious' side that it didn't ruin anything. and the effects/plot/action were all rather enjoyable.

I refuse to even think of it as an adaptation though, in my mind, it just coincidentally shares a title with a great work of Sci-Fi.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby mosc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:58 pm UTC

my theory on this movie is it's all about your expectations. If you go in expecting an Asimov plot or something that competes with blade runner on the sci-fi, you're going to be disappointed. If you go in expecting a mediocre action flick, you'll be blown away.

The story is not Asimov but it is certainly influenced by him and I found it more than sufficient to help what was essentially a wonderful sci-fi action flick. It's one of my favorites too and yes, I thought Will Smith was superb in it, like most of his films.

Point is, it got an unfair reaction from Azimov fans. Just because it included the three laws doesn't mean it has to follow his themes exactly, does it?
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:01 pm UTC

y'know, I don't think Will Smith is a very serious actor, but I've actually been very impressed with him the last couple of years. I, Robot had some great acting on his part, and I think he's done a good job of blending his Fresh Prince humor with actual acting recently.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:34 pm UTC

I think Will Smith has a lot more acting chops than people give him credit for. I think he just prefers to work on more fun movies with an occasional I Am Legend thrown in now and then. And he was fantastic in I Am Legend. You kind of have to be when you're acting against a dog and manaquins.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:38 pm UTC

Agreed! My biggest problem with I am Legend was how clean he appeared throughout. If you're a hermit living by yourself in a warzone, you aren't going to be showering and shaving daily. Least I wouldn't. But thats a mild and opinionated complaint, his acting was superb, and to be fair, generally is.

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When he strangled the zombie-dog... well done Mr. Smith, well done.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Malice » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:55 pm UTC

If anyone wants to see Will Smith actually act, go watch "The Pursuit of Happyness".

I, Robot is despicable. The filmmakers essentially said, "gee, we have this movie about robots, but how are we gonna make sure people come watch it? I know! We'll buy up one o' them science fiction books, slap the title on, and wait for the nerd-bucks to roll on in!"
Of course, they chose the worst possible author for the job, considering Asimov wrote many stories about how robots were awesome and only idiots were afraid of them, and this is a movie about a guy who thinks robots are evil and is proven correct. Yeah, they made up some bullshit at the very end about a computer fucking up, but the other 89 minutes were just Will Smith getting punched in the face by CGI robots over and over and over again.

So, um, yeah. Stand over poor Isaac's grave and you can probably still hear the rolling.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Bruce » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:37 pm UTC

My biggest problem with the movie was that it flys in the face of all Asimov robot stories. Essentially, they all come down to PEBKAC - it is not the robots who are misbehaving, the humans did something weird.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:51 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Agreed! My biggest problem with I am Legend was how clean he appeared throughout. If you're a hermit living by yourself in a warzone, you aren't going to be showering and shaving daily. Least I wouldn't. But thats a mild and opinionated complaint, his acting was superb, and to be fair, generally is.

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When he strangled the zombie-dog... well done Mr. Smith, well done.

According to interviews with the producers of I Am Legend, they spent a lot of time talking to people who had been in isolation for even short periods of time, and the common thread they found was that you REALLY have to maintain a schedule and follow it every day in order to not go crazy (actually crazy). That's why they spent a lot of time showing him doing mundane things like cleaning, going to the video store, and so on. Knowing that really put a lot of the move in perspective. So yeah, you would be showering and shaving daily, if for no other reason than to maintain your sanity.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby mosc » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:02 am UTC

Malice wrote:If anyone wants to see Will Smith actually act, go watch "The Pursuit of Happyness".

FUCK yes. Superb movie.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Robin S » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:42 am UTC

Like a number of people above, I enjoyed the film. It worked well as a film, just as the short stories worked well as literature. It's a continuum between faithful film adaptations and "loosely inspired by" works. I could swear there's a thread devoted to that already, in fact, but I can't find it.

Anyway, I see no reason why this film should put any sort of damper on any more faithful adaptations of Asimov's novels which might be produced in the future (and which I would definitely want to see if they ever came out).
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Postby Sir_Elderberry » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:44 am UTC

I, Robot: Decent action flick. Not an Asimov story.

Pursuit of Happyness; Freaking awesome.

I Am Legend: See above.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Mr. Beck » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:56 pm UTC

The film and the books should in now way be considered part of the same story. The book was excellent, and the film was good, but they had very little in common. Naming the one after the other was unfortunate, but if you go in expecting a non-Asimov story then you will come out happy. At least the film did get the concept of "The Evitable Conflict", but theme was opposite that of the book. I guess they were catering to different audiences.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby MJPerry » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:23 pm UTC

I liked I, Robot but then I'm an uncultured swine who has never read Asimov.

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Will Smith is a great actor, it's just unfortunate he did stuff like Men in Black and Wild Wild West. The Pursuit of Happyness is a great film and he's astounding in it.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby EdgarJPublius » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:36 am UTC

MiB and WWW were both brilliant, they were supposed to be a little campy and were really good sci-fi/steam punk comedies (genre's that aren't exactly common place)

It's things like MiB2 he was 'unfortunately' in. But his ability to play roles as disparate as Agent Jay and Chris Gardner is what really shows his impressive acting chops.
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Postby Mother Superior » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:32 am UTC

All I know for certain is Alan Tudyk was awesome as the robot in I, Robot.
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Postby Amarantha » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:57 am UTC

Mother Superior wrote:All I know for certain is Alan Tudyk is awesome.


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Re: I, Robot

Postby no-genius » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:01 pm UTC

If you want to see a film that is actually about the book it is meant to be about, go rent/buy a scanner darkly.

I thought the film was OK, but then I haven't read any Asimov. I know I should...
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Felstaff » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:03 pm UTC

I could barely hear the film due to the spinning sound coming from Asimov's grave.

What's worse is the guy was cremated.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby TomBot » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:18 pm UTC

The only bad part about the movie was the title. Yes, they called it I Robot just to make money, when obviously it's a completely different story. Though there are some common themes from both.

In the book, as I recall, the three laws also lead to several mainframe robots controlling the world economy, and people are either ignorant or indifferent to that. This works well as a series of short stories, but if you're going to make an action movie, you need more large-timescale conflict (not just the conflict in each individual story).

In the movie they took the same theme, three laws leading to world domination, but they added conflict by making the revolution violent and unsuccessful, making Will Smith hate robots, and adding the whole murder / breadcrumbs angle. So they ended up with a cool action movie, which also had a great futuristic but gritty atmosphere. And yes, they used the I Robot name and characters, but let's admit it: you wouldn't have seen it if it was called "Robot Revolution" or something.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby HighCharity » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:05 am UTC

TomBot wrote:The only bad part about the movie was the title. Yes, they called it I Robot just to make money, when obviously it's a completely different story. Though there are some common themes from both.

In the book, as I recall, the three laws also lead to several mainframe robots controlling the world economy, and people are either ignorant or indifferent to that. This works well as a series of short stories, but if you're going to make an action movie, you need more large-timescale conflict (not just the conflict in each individual story).

In the movie they took the same theme, three laws leading to world domination, but they added conflict by making the revolution violent and unsuccessful, making Will Smith hate robots, and adding the whole murder / breadcrumbs angle. So they ended up with a cool action movie, which also had a great futuristic but gritty atmosphere. And yes, they used the I Robot name and characters, but let's admit it: you wouldn't have seen it if it was called "Robot Revolution" or something.

Yeah...Robot Revolution would have grossed a total of about 12 dollars, XD...Also, awesome avatar, I finished Portal the day I got it. :)
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Re: I, Robot

Postby JayDee » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:30 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:I could barely hear the film due to the spinning sound coming from Asimov's grave.

What's worse is the guy was cremated.

Heh. I can just picture the centrifugal separation of the ashes.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Malice » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:08 am UTC

TomBot wrote:And yes, they used the I Robot name and characters, but let's admit it: you wouldn't have seen it if it was called "Robot Revolution" or something.


I, Robot, is a very shitty title for a movie. Especially this movie, where the main character is definitely not a robot. If they simply wanted people to come to the movie because they'd read the book, they could have called it "The Da Vinci Code" and gotten a lot more business. It makes about as much sense.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Kabann » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:20 am UTC

I, Robot was on the good side of meh. I Am Legend was on the meh side of great.

My uncle was planning to take my cousins to see I Am Legend at the discount theater this past weekend... now, they're Mormons who happen to have a bit of a squeamish streak - horror movies, anything sexual or overly violent, anything terribly stressful for that matter is out. They thought I Am Legend was a sequel to I, Robot (I suppose they haven't watched much TV the past year.) So luckily I was there to ever-so-gently guide them away to watch something a bit more watered down.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby william » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:26 pm UTC

Hardwired was a pretty good movie. Too bad they accidentially mislabeled it as I, Robot.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Narsil » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:05 pm UTC

I enjoyed this movie until I read the book, at which point I hated it intensely for a while. The book is amazing, and all thses have in common is that there are machines that are intelligent and they obey three laws.

Then, however, every time I heard the name "I, Robot" in reference to the movie, I would mentally scratch that out and think "Robotmageddon". I'm back to enjoying the movie now.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Mr. Beck » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:21 am UTC

Kabann wrote:I, Robot was on the good side of meh. I Am Legend was on the meh side of great.

As eloquent a summary as I have ever heard.

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Re: I, Robot

Postby swik » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:41 am UTC

I, Robot was pretty awful, though to be fair, I'd only say "it wasn't good" if the product placements weren't so blatant.
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Felstaff » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:51 am UTC

I don't think iRobot had any product placement in it, did it? If it did it must have been subliminal. But anyway, check out my new Converse® Retro™ 2004's.

I was happy to see Jack-Bauer's-dad/farmer-from-Babe play a cool hologrammatophone.

Also, did anyone else feel their intelligence was insulted by the fact that when these maccish robots went bad, a demonic Hallish red light came up?

"Ah, I see your problem here, buddy--someone's switched this robot to 'Evil'."
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Re: I, Robot

Postby Kabann » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:21 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:Also, did anyone else feel their intelligence was insulted by the fact that when these maccish robots went bad, a demonic Hallish red light came up?

"Ah, I see your problem here, buddy--someone's switched this robot to 'Evil'."


When I'm in control of the robots, I'll make sure their Evil Mode is indicated by a soothing baby blue glow. That way everyone can say, "Aww, what an adorable and not at all threatening rob... EEEEE!!!! MY NECK!!!! GURGLE!"
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Re: I, Robot

Postby felltir » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:38 pm UTC

Felstaff wrote:I don't think iRobot had any product placement in it, did it? If it did it must have been subliminal. But anyway, check out my new Converse® Retro™ 2004's. [/i]


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Re: I, Robot

Postby ishikiri » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:34 am UTC

Amarantha wrote:
Mother Superior wrote:All I know for certain is Alan Tudyk is sexy sexy sexy awesome.


Fix'd :P


Properly fixed :P

I liked I, Robot and am also an uncivilised swine. I'll be rectifying that soon.

Is been a while since I've seen the film though.
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