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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Kag » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:02 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:In the original Deus Ex, you were able to just run past the bosses or GEP Gun them in the face before they had a chance to talk to you. I miss that.


In the original Deus Ex, bosses were completely devoid of tension.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:26 am UTC

Kag wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:In the original Deus Ex, you were able to just run past the bosses or GEP Gun them in the face before they had a chance to talk to you. I miss that.


In the original Deus Ex, bosses were completely devoid of tension.


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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Kag » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:11 am UTC

No tension from any of the antagonists means no dramatic impact to the plot. It's a foregone conclusion that you save the world or whatever because you're JC motherfucking Denton, your vision is augmented.

Even from a design angle. Bosses should break up the pace and force you to do something different, because Hiding Behind Chest High Walls Ex: Guards Have No Peripheral Vision Revolution would get boring long before the end of the game.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby psion » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:05 am UTC

True. I think the main thing I disliked about the bosses were the arenas that you fought them in. You're locked in a cramped room with a few walls/pillars/boxes for cover. How cool would it be to not be locked in that room? What if you could backtrack through the whole level, with the boss following you and spawning new guards. You could set traps or sneak through vents that you had previously explored. Anything to make it feel less like an obligatory trope.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Jack21222 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:05 am UTC

I haven't been able to get past the 3rd boss yet due to a hurricane knocking out my power and internet for 5 days, but I just wanted to share a fun "alternate solution."

In one level, there are two armed guards sharing humorous anecdotes about vending machines, and one stands directly in front of the locked security office (he doesn't wander.) I wanted to hack that terminal, but the guard was watching. So, the guard gave me an idea. I walked down the hall, yanked a vending machine off of the wall, and put it down right in front of the guard's face, as if to say "You mean THIS vending machine?" I then hacked the door in peace.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby psion » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:46 am UTC

I was feeling vengeful and threw the vending machine at that guard until he died. The other guards heard his yelps of horror and started shooting at me. I looked back at the vending machine, picked it up, and promptly killed them with it. I thought we made a good team so I went through the rest of the level with him, killing everyone. I named him Smashi. Arabic.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:23 am UTC

Is it worth the fifty dollars?

I was kinda disappointed after seeing people saying they beat it over the course of a week...

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby WarDaft » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:44 am UTC

Considering how many games can be quite easily beaten over the course of half a day, a week is pretty good.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby halbarad » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:02 am UTC

The only thing I wish this game had (at least from what I've played so far) is a quick save and quick load option. It's not a huge deal to go in to the menu and click save but it breaks up the gameplay a bit too much.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:10 am UTC

halbarad wrote:The only thing I wish this game had (at least from what I've played so far) is a quick save and quick load option. It's not a huge deal to go in to the menu and click save but it breaks up the gameplay a bit too much.


It does have that function. Keys are F5 and F8 for save and load.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby halbarad » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:17 am UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
halbarad wrote:The only thing I wish this game had (at least from what I've played so far) is a quick save and quick load option. It's not a huge deal to go in to the menu and click save but it breaks up the gameplay a bit too much.


It does have that function. Keys are F5 and F8 for save and load.


I must have skimmed over that when looking through the controls section in options. Thanks

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:44 am UTC

visiting HengSha (sp?) for the first time.

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Windmill's place. Forever alone drawings and " ಠ_ಠ " on the walls. Laughed so hard.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Xeio » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:12 am UTC

Sheikh al-Majaneen wrote:Is it worth the fifty dollars?

I was kinda disappointed after seeing people saying they beat it over the course of a week...
Still around 20 hours of play for one playthrough. And there's always playing through again and making some different choices.

I think it was well worth it to support a good game.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Jack21222 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:59 am UTC

Xeio wrote:
Sheikh al-Majaneen wrote:Is it worth the fifty dollars?

I was kinda disappointed after seeing people saying they beat it over the course of a week...
Still around 20 hours of play for one playthrough. And there's always playing through again and making some different choices.

I think it was well worth it to support a good game.


Just beat it in 21 hours. I may play it again at some point, but I am slightly disappointed in the length.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby EdgarJPublius » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:18 am UTC

I don't think I could have finished it in less than 20 hours. maybe running and gunning and ignoring all exploration and side-missions, maybe.

Are you sure you haven't mistaken the steam time tracker for actual time, because I believe it's been established that it runs fast for some people.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:07 am UTC

It took 22 hours for me according to steam. But then I missed one side-mission and was too high and mighty to do another.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby mr-mitch » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:54 am UTC

Which mission was that? If it was Bao's, you can take a high mighty approach and it's just like buying a praxis kit with experience (ask him about the reward before you pay).

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Jack21222 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:19 pm UTC

EdgarJPublius wrote:I don't think I could have finished it in less than 20 hours. maybe running and gunning and ignoring all exploration and side-missions, maybe.

Are you sure you haven't mistaken the steam time tracker for actual time, because I believe it's been established that it runs fast for some people.


If the steam timer runs fast, that means actual time would have been even LESS.

I could have easily beaten it in under 20 hours. When I beat it in 21, that included over an hour trying to do the 3rd boss, a bunch of time wandering around Detroit doing every side mission, and numerous restarts when I wanted to do a level without being seen at all. I intentionally didn't do one side mission (well, the second part of one side mission) and apparently there was one other that I didn't know about, but I'd say I did most of the game in 21 hours.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:42 pm UTC

The steam gameplay time is usually many hours behind what I usually put into a game, as it doesn't update when the game crashes, or you shut down your computer too fast, or your internet connection browns out, or the phase of the moon isn't what it expected.

Though some people alt-tab out of games for hours, which would account for inflated numbers.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:17 pm UTC

is the plasma rifle any good?
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Vapour » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:20 pm UTC

I didn't find it to be that usefull.

I only used it when I was running low on ammo on later levels.

I see it as a pick up, use ammo and then drop weapon.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:49 pm UTC

Vapour wrote:I didn't find it to be that usefull.

I only used it when I was running low on ammo on later levels.

I see it as a pick up, use ammo and then drop weapon.



I'll leave it. I'm already lugging around combatrifle, pistol, laser thingy and a grenade launcher and a sniper rifle :mrgreen:

Haven't even used teh laser yet.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Vapour » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:30 pm UTC

Apart from the last level, I only used the pistol if I had/wanted to kill. Most the time I avoided conflict.

The last level my game bugged (I think) My hud disappeared, which made things slightly harder. So I resorted to the heavy rifle and laser to killing everything.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:26 pm UTC

I went complete pacifist the last level, seeing as how
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all the zombies were just innocent victims of Darrow. Was fairly easy with non-lethal takedown, gas grenades and jumping up on tall stuff.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Vapour » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:47 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:I went complete pacifist the last level, seeing as how
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all the zombies were just innocent victims of Darrow. Was fairly easy with non-lethal takedown, gas grenades and jumping up on tall stuff.


That was my plan, but getting annoyed by lack of hud just ended in me mowing everything down.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Chen » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:52 pm UTC

Plasma rifle is good for
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taking down huge waves of zombies
in the last level. Its also good against turrets and the last boss. Each shot does quite a bit of damage so you expose yourself less to things when shooting them with it.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby thecommabandit » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:41 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:I went complete pacifist the last level, seeing as how
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all the zombies were just innocent victims of Darrow. Was fairly easy with non-lethal takedown, gas grenades and jumping up on tall stuff.

This was the one area where the PEPS shone. Before this, it's far too loud to be stealthy, it's hit-and-miss whether it actually gives you the area effect and it outright doesn't do anything on armoured enemies. It was of no use to me but I liked the idea of it so much I lugged it around from the level in the Hengsha pangu all the way to the end. And my god is it useful on the crazies. One well-placed shot can take down five or six at a time.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:16 pm UTC

Was it just me having the right weapon or was boss number 3 stupidly easy? I only had to reload once >_< the first two took at least 10.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:18 pm UTC

thecommabandit wrote:
You, sir, name? wrote:I went complete pacifist the last level, seeing as how
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all the zombies were just innocent victims of Darrow. Was fairly easy with non-lethal takedown, gas grenades and jumping up on tall stuff.

This was the one area where the PEPS shone. Before this, it's far too loud to be stealthy, it's hit-and-miss whether it actually gives you the area effect and it outright doesn't do anything on armoured enemies. It was of no use to me but I liked the idea of it so much I lugged it around from the level in the Hengsha pangu all the way to the end. And my god is it useful on the crazies. One well-placed shot can take down five or six at a time.


Never found that weapon. But I really didn't have any problem with that area. I just high-jumped onto areas they couldn't reach and watched them flail at the air. I didn't have any non-lethal weapon. I just took alternate paths, threw 1-2 gas grenades and did non-lethal takedowns.

el_loco_avs wrote:Was it just me having the right weapon or was boss number 3 stupidly easy? I only had to reload once >_< the first two took at least 10.


Took me around 30 attempts to kill the third boss. But yeah, it really depends on your earlier game decisions, as well as what weapons you have. I ended up lugging a turret through half the map in order to be able to kill him.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Xeio » Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:23 am UTC

el_loco_avs wrote:Was it just me having the right weapon or was boss number 3 stupidly easy? I only had to reload once >_< the first two took at least 10.
Yes, weapons made a lot of difference, particularly if you saved up, say, the grenade launcher, since he'll die before you even have to reload the weapon (let alone the game).

Though I only loaded 2-3 times on the other bosses...

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:00 am UTC

Xeio wrote:
el_loco_avs wrote:Was it just me having the right weapon or was boss number 3 stupidly easy? I only had to reload once >_< the first two took at least 10.
Yes, weapons made a lot of difference, particularly if you saved up, say, the grenade launcher, since he'll die before you even have to reload the weapon (let alone the game).

Though I only loaded 2-3 times on the other bosses...


I was comepletely unprepared for the first two. Couldn't really hide and had barely and grenades.


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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby psion » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:38 am UTC

There's an extra scene after the credits.
I carried the Plasma Rifle around with me but I never found it useful. It's just like the Plasma Rifle in Deus Ex... Too little ammo for too little damage.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby SenseiJinx » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:52 pm UTC

I don't understand how people are beating this game in around 20 hours...I'm at 32 hours, and still haven't beaten the game. I'm guessing I have around 10 more hours or so (although I guess it could be less). Are you guys skipping most of the side quests? I don't feel that I'm that slow...I've done most of the sidequests and do a lot of exploring, but I don't feel like I'm crawling through the game either.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Xeio » Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:46 pm UTC

It could be that steam is borked as usual. I dunno.

Though I did end up missing at least one side quest in my first playthrough.

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Kag » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:39 pm UTC

psion wrote:Too little ammo for too little damage.


There's a LOT of ammo lying around in the last area. My second playthrough I finished with like 200 shots leftover or something.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby el_loco_avs » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:25 pm UTC

One thing. Windmill = dutch accent fail.



But that's almost always the case if they have someone fake it.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby ArgonV » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:16 pm UTC

Yeah, I had the same thing. Being Dutch myself and all :P

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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby thecommabandit » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:51 pm UTC

I am terrible at discerning Dutch accents and thus had no problem with it. But tell me this: Is Pritchard meant to be English? Because, wow, that's terrible if he is. Almost as bad as that guy on Star Trek Enterprise who was meant to be English.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby Kag » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:33 am UTC

Is Pritchard meant to be English?


No. He's from New Hampshire.

Also, he would be 20 this year. That's crazy.
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Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Postby mr-mitch » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:37 am UTC

Kag wrote:
Is Pritchard meant to be English?


No. He's from New Hampshire.

Also, he would be 20 this year. That's crazy.


Jensen (assuming the '93 was his real birth year) would be 18!


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