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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby yurell » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:47 am UTC

Koyaanisqatsi wrote: No animal ever evolved the ability to drink the milk of another animal, and none ever did, until humans. [...]

And if you don't like "supposed to," then I guess I'll say "evolutionarily adapted to," if you're really going to nitpick.


That top line says that we have evolved the ability to drink the milk of another animal. How then do you contend that we're 'not evolutionarily adapted to' milk, as per the second line I quoted? You're saying that 'humans aren't evolutionarily adapted to drink milk' (based on your new definition of 'supposed'), but then go on to point out that at least a large subset of humans are adapted. How then do you justify saying that all humans are not supposed to drink milk? Or are you changing that stance to 'only those without the evolved ability to process lactose shouldn't drink milk' ... if that's the case, your entire point is 'lactose intolerant people should avoid lactose', a statement which I shouldn't think would receive any opposition should you have said that in the first place.
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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:59 am UTC

Koyaanisqatsi wrote:First, there were plants, which got energy from photosynthesis. Then evolved consumers, which evolved to digest the plants, which would sometimes defend with poisons or spikes or other defense mechanisms. ...

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby theGoldenCalf; » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:42 pm UTC

Luckily we are evolutionarily adapted to bullshit. Except for those poor bullshit intolerant people who are never safe on the internet.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby podbaydoor » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:50 pm UTC

Milk is delicious. The end.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby lucrezaborgia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:20 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Milk is delicious. The end.


Cheese is way more delicious!

...and ice cream.

...and Baily's Irish Cream!

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Weeks » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:50 am UTC

Haagen-Dazszsz is better.
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Postby lucrezaborgia » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:13 am UTC

Weeks wrote:Haagen-Dazszsz is better.


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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Weeks » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:31 am UTC

Well, fuck.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby EmptySet » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:23 am UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:Setting aside the fact that you just nicely pointed out that adapting and developing new food sources is, in fact, exceedingly normal, there's also the bit where you missed that there are ants that farm and milk aphids. The whole "renewably collect nutrious and tasty fluids from other species" isn't a human development, sorry.


There are also animals that steal milk from other species, though not usually in the quantities humans do. The Western Gull, for instance, has been observed to steal milk from seals while they are sleeping. And it's a freaking bird! they don't produce milk at all! Perhaps they're getting revenge for mammals stealing their eggs.

Speaking of which, I'm curious to know if Koyaanisqatsi also regards the consumption of eggs as unnatural, since they're supposed to provide nutrition for bird embryos and not humans or any of the numerous other species that eat them.

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby fizzgig » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:38 am UTC

Koyaanisqatsi wrote: Then, plants evolved fruit, which are technically ovaries, not fetuses


Is this correct? Aren't fruit produced post-fertilisation? So fruit are maybe like a womb that the fertilised seeds live in? Yeah ok, so maybe anthropomorphising plants wasn't such a great idea.

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Postby meridian » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:55 pm UTC

Yum, yum, tasty uteri.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby curtis95112 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:21 pm UTC

fizzgig wrote:
Koyaanisqatsi wrote: Then, plants evolved fruit, which are technically ovaries, not fetuses


Is this correct? Aren't fruit produced post-fertilisation? So fruit are maybe like a womb that the fertilised seeds live in? Yeah ok, so maybe anthropomorphising plants wasn't such a great idea.


Now think about what you're really doing when you give flowers to your loved ones. Or even laying them in front of graves :P
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby pollywog » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:26 pm UTC

That is why I hate flowers. Also the fact that hey are expensive, and I tend to get told off when I steal them.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Menacing Spike » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:00 am UTC

curtis95112 wrote:Now think about what you're really doing when you give flowers to your loved ones.


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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby JoeyJo0 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:20 pm UTC

The fact is that nature will find a way to do certain stuff through natural selection.

If one guy is born with the genes to get superpowers from benzene(if that were possible), making his life expectancy twice as high and making him 10 times more fertile, while avoiding the cancer, you can bet your sweet ass that in a couple of generations, everyone's going to be gobbling up benzene.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Endless Mike » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:59 pm UTC

The "no animal..." argument is an incredible fallacy. You pick literally any adaptation and point out that no animal ever did it. Until [first one] did it. If it was unnatural to evolve things nothing else ever had, we wouldn't be here since life would have stopped once single-celled life popped up.

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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:03 pm UTC

Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Menacing Spike » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:37 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.


Fucking proteins should have stayed hydrogen.

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby JoeyJo0 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:14 am UTC

Menacing Spike wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.


Fucking proteins should have stayed hydrogen.


Stars are unnatural. Fucking hydrogen SHOULD NOT become helium!
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby t1mm01994 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:03 am UTC

Only read the first page, but laughed hard enough to throw out a geniune "thanks" for making me laugh so much :')

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Postby UniqueScreenname » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:20 am UTC

t1mm01994 wrote:Only read the first page, but laughed hard enough to throw out a geniune "thanks" for making me laugh so much :')

I am seriously flabbergasted that it has gotten this far. I continue to read in wonder of how far the insanity will progress.
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:53 am UTC

There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.
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Postby pizzazz » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:34 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.



http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71439?

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby podbaydoor » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:30 pm UTC

I love that thread. I also like the "mass of a feather" thread.

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

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pizzazz wrote:
SurgicalSteel wrote:There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.



http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71439?

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Menacing Spike » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:17 pm UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:
pizzazz wrote:
SurgicalSteel wrote:There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.



http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71439?

Ooh, ooh, I wanna turn this thread into a cute animal thread!!!
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thats not natural you sick fuck

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Postby Weeks » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:36 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:I love that thread. I also like the "mass of a feather" thread.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=13815
gmal used emoticons much more frequently back then...
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:44 pm UTC

pizzazz wrote:
SurgicalSteel wrote:There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.



http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71439?
That'd be the one. Man, that thread was fun.
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

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Menacing Spike wrote:
UniqueScreenname wrote:
pizzazz wrote:
SurgicalSteel wrote:There was a thread a while back that started similarly ridiculous and just got sillier and sillier that was quite a bit of fun. I can't remember the topic though.



http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71439?

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thats not natural you sick fuck

Well, according to this, neither is milk. I say just go with it.
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Postby wst » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:01 pm UTC

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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby agata » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:26 pm UTC

well as my point of view,
pure milk is not bad for you.The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age.

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Postby curtis95112 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:12 am UTC

agata wrote:well as my point of view,
pure milk is not bad for you.The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age.


Who believes that? I'm quite sure most people think milk is useful but replaceable.
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Postby Endless Mike » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:52 pm UTC

JoeyJo0 wrote:
Menacing Spike wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.


Fucking proteins should have stayed hydrogen.


Stars are unnatural. Fucking hydrogen SHOULD NOT become helium!

Frankly, the universe is unnatural. It should have stayed as an infinitely dense and temperature singularity.

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Endless Mike wrote:
JoeyJo0 wrote:
Menacing Spike wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.


Fucking proteins should have stayed hydrogen.


Stars are unnatural. Fucking hydrogen SHOULD NOT become helium!

Frankly, the universe is unnatural. It should have stayed as an infinitely dense and temperature singularity.

Agreed.

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Postby UniqueScreenname » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:13 pm UTC

broken_escalator wrote:
Endless Mike wrote:
JoeyJo0 wrote:
Menacing Spike wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Pfft. Life is unnatural. Life never existed until those protein chains got together. That shit ain't right.


Fucking proteins should have stayed hydrogen.


Stars are unnatural. Fucking hydrogen SHOULD NOT become helium!

Frankly, the universe is unnatural. It should have stayed as an infinitely dense and temperature singularity.

Agreed.

Isn't that a line from Hitchhiker's Guide?
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Postby broken_escalator » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:28 pm UTC

I believe so. I know it is Douglas Adams, fairly certain it was hitchhikers guide.

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Postby Microscopic cog » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:45 pm UTC

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Postby Sgt.Artemis » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:31 pm UTC

I will continue to drink milk until the harm it causes the world is greater than my personal pleasure that I get from drinking it.

I like milk (:
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Re: Milk is bad for you!

Postby Koyaanisqatsi » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:27 pm UTC

Well. Nobody has any intention of following links, so here goes. I'm telling you, I'm not making this up. There are studies on this. There is science involved.





American women have been consuming an average of two pounds of milk per day for their entire lives, yet thirty million American women have osteoporosis. Drinking milk does not prevent bone loss. Bone loss is accelerated by ingesting too much protein, and milk has been called "liquid meat."

In order to absorb calcium, the body needs comparable amounts of another mineral element, magnesium. Milk and dairy products contain only small amounts of magnesium. Magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll:

"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one of the most important being too much dietary protein."

Science 1986;233(4763)

"Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis, such as the United States, England, and Sweden, consume the most milk. China and Japan, where people eat much less protein and dairy food, have low rates of osteoporosis."

Nutrition Action Healthletter, June, 1993

"What appears to be important in bone metabolism is not calcium intake, but calcium balance. The loss of bone integrity among many post menopausal white women probably results from genetics and from diet and lifestyle factors. Research shows that calcium losses are increased by the use of animal protein, salt, caffeine, and tobacco, and by physical inactivity."

Neal Barnard, M.D., Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, Understanding Health, December, 1999

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the skeleton."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61 (4)

"About 50,000 Americans die each year of problems related in some way to osteoporosis."

Osteoporosis International 1993;3(3)

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose up to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming a high-protein diet."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 1979;32(4)

"Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause calcium loss to double."

Journal of Nutrition, 1981; 111 (3)

"The average man in the US eats 175% more protein than the recommended daily allowance and the average woman eats 144% more."

Surgeon General's Report on Nutrition and Health, 1988

"Calcium intake demonstrated no protective in preventing bone fractures. In fact, those populations with the highest calcium intakes had higher fracture rates than those with more modest calcium intakes."

Calif Tissue Int 1992;50

"There is no significant association between teenaged milk consumption and the risk of adult fractures. Data indicate that frequent milk consumption and higher dietary calcium intakes in middle aged women do not provide protection against hip or forearm fractures... women consuming greater amounts of calcium from dairy foods had significantly increased risks of hip fractures, while no increase in fracture risk was observed for the same levels of calcium from nondairy sources."

12-year Harvard study of 78,000 women American Journal of Public Health 1997;87

"Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, were associated with an increased risk of hip fractures...metabolism of dietary protein causes increased urinary excretion of calcium."

American Journal of Epidemiology 1994;139


ET TU, BRUCELLOSIS

Julius Caesar was warned to take great care on the Ides of
March. On that day, Rome's illustrious emperor was stabbed
in the back by his best friend, Brutus. From that time
forward, the world's calendars became totally messed up. The
seventh month of the year, Sept-ember was replaced and named
after Caesar, and the seventh month then became the ninth
month, and the eighth month (0ct-ober) became the tenth, but
all that's history, so let's just talk about milk.

Today is the 15th day (the Ides) of June. Yesterday began a
major ongoing milk recall in California. Tests show that
every variety of milk sold under the names Berkeley Farms,
Dairy Dawn, Ralphs, Mountain Dairy, Sysco (Wholesome Farms),
Smart & Final, Albertsons, Good Day, and Best Yet may be
tainted with unsafe levels of powerful antibiotics.

Berkeley Farms is owned by Dean Foods, the largest dairy
processor in America, larger than even Kraft.

I spoke with Ray McCoy in the quality assurance department
at the parent company, Dean Foods (214-303-3400). McCoy
informed me that Berkeley Farms had performed screening
tests on milk samples and although he had no quantitative
numbers to offer, he did say that they detected indications
("betalactums") of antimicrobial contamination. McCoy
promised to get back to me with details. I left him my home
telephone number. He did not get back to me.

Why must cows be medicated? Is the antidote more dangerous
than the poison?

BEWARE, THE IDES OF JUNE

Mad Cow Disease stabbed Britain right in the gut, and cases
have been diagnosed throughout Europe, Asia, and even North
America (Canada). Nearly 100 young people have died in
England from this brain-wasting ailment that is passed from
cows to humans.

Hoof and Mouth Disease delivered a second thrust. Millions
of animals had to be slaughtered because of a plague that
spread like a wind-blown fire, a disease that rarely infects
humans. Two hundred thousand animals actually caught Hoof
and Mouth Disease in Britain.

The third wound was anthrax, delivered with a serrated blade
that terrified the United States. America's anthrax epidemic
became a non-story, as USDA magnificently placed their veil
upon truth so that Americans could eat their meat with peace
of mind. This terror was quarantined, and over one million
pounds of suspect beef was quietly recalled, just a few
weeks before the nightmare of 9/11.

The fourth knife wound required emergency USDA surgery, and
government bureaucrats again came to the rescue, keeping an
enormous story relatively quiet, so that most Americans are
not even aware of the quarantined cows with tuberculosis on
a California dairy farm.

Sixteen workers from that farm have tested positive for
tuberculosis. All drank milk directly from those cows, but
California health officials deny that they caught TB from
those animals. The owner of the farm is still being allowed
to ship milk from his diseased bovines, and that milk is
being sold for human consumption.

Now, comes a fifth stab wound.

Et tu, Brucellosis.

Brucellosis in cattle can be passed on to man in the form of
Mediterranean Disease or Undulant fever. This disease is
difficult to detect, and easily misdiagnosed. The symptoms
include chronic fatigue (syndrome), headaches, and arthritic
pain. Once infected with Brucellosis from cows, the disease
can hide in the human body, emerging many years after the
initial infection.

Brucellosis has been detected in a dairy herd in Idaho. Six
cows have tested positive.

The United States Department of Agriculture actually has a
Brucellosis program, and a set of standards. Under
government regulations, states are allowed to identify
infected herds, and retain their "Brucellosis Class Free
designations." Who is being protected?

Before taking your next bite of cheese, carefully read this
information from page 222 of Mad Cows and Milk Gate by
Virgil Hulse, M.D.:

"The following groups of pathogens can be involved in
manufacturing cheese made from raw milk: TB (mycobacterium
paratuber-culosis, Undulant fever (Brucella species),
Disease producing Strep (Pathogenic streptococci), staph
food poisoning (Coagulase positive sttaphylocci), staph
arrhea that may lead to death (Entero-pathogenic
Eschererichia coli), Salmonella, Rickettsia, Virus species,
Bacillus cereus, Clostridium perfringens and Clostridium
botulinum (can be fatal and cause death)."

Et tu, Brucellosis. Beware the Ides of June. Is it any
wonder that Berkeley has issued a recall for antibiotics in
milk? If comedy can be found in tragedy, it exists in this
line from Berkeley's emergency press release:

"Antibiotics are sometimes used to treat dairy cows as part
of their health maintenance program."

Sometimes?
Health maintenance?
You can call Berkeley Farms at 888-647-3326.


By the time one hears the snap, crackle, and pop from a bowl of Rice Krispies, that milk has been pasteurized three times. Another secret the dairy industry does not want you to know. Why doesn't the first time work, or the second, or third? Most people have experienced the putrid smell of soured milk. Pour it down the drain on day eight. Imagine what you consumed on day seven?

"Salmonella are widespread in the environment and hence can enter the dairy factory from various sources. Butter readily supports growth of salmonella at room temperature, but refrigeration or freezing for brief periods does not eliminate it. Salmonella can remain viable in butter for up to 9 months."

Journal of Dairy Science 1992;75(9):2339

"A drop of sour milk may contain more than 50 million bacteria...certain bacteria, especially organisms belonging to the genera bacillus and clostridium, have the ability to transform themselves into small bodies called spores. The word spore comes from the Greek word for seed. The spore can often withstand drying, the temperature of boiling water (pasteurization), and the action of some germicides. When suitable conditions return, the spore resumes its vegetative form and the bacterium again returns to the usual activities of its normal life cycle."

Modern Dairy Products, Third Edition Lincoln Lampert

"Milk from cows inoculated with listeria was pooled for 2 to 4 days and then heated at 162 degrees Fahrenheit for 16 seconds in a high-temperature, short-time pasteurization unit. Live listeria bacteria was then successfully isolated from the milk after heat treatment in 11 of 12 pasteurization trials."

Journal of Environmental Microbiology. July 1987 (53)

"Listeria organisms excreted in cow's milk escaped pasteurization, grew well at refrigerator temperatures, and were ingested by consumers."

New England Journal of Medicine, 1985, 312 (7)

"In 1992, 19,000 deaths were attributed to infections caused by antibiotic- resistant organisms. They played a partial role in another 58,000 deaths that same year."

Your Health, June 1994

"Bulk tank milk from 131 dairy herds in eastern South Dakota and western Minnesota were examined for coliforms and noncoliform bacteria. Coliforms were detected in 62.3% of bulk tank milk samples... noncoliform bacteria were observed in 76.3% of bulk tank milk."

J Dairy Sci, 1999 Dec, 82:12

"There can be Chernobyl-like accidents. One of these occurred in the Chicago area in April, 1985. At a modern, large milk processing plant an accidental 'cross connection' between raw and pasteurized milk occurred. A violent salmonella outbreak followed, killing 4 and making an estimated 150,000 ill."

Robert Kradjian, M.D. The Milk Letter, August, 1994

"Raw material from animals which are inadvertantly contaminated with fecal matters during production will carry antibiotic resistant lactic acid bacteria into the final fermented products such as raw milk cheeses..."

Antonie Van Leeuwenhoek, 1999 Jul, 76

"The administration of subtherapeutic doses of antibiotics to livestock introduces selective pressures that may lead to the emergence and dissemination of resistant bacteria. The present findings clearly demonstrate that antibiotic-resistant bacteria in beef and milk pose a serious problem."

J Food Prot, 1999 Jun, 62:6

"Food producers and consumers must continue to take precautions against foodborne diseases, and early diagnosis and appropriate treatment of these illnesses are essential. Food products and water can become contaminated with microorganisms and toxins that make people ill..."

Postgrad Med, 1998 Jun, 103:6

"... curing alone may not be a sufficient pathogen control step to eliminate Salmonella, Listeria, and E. coli O157:H7 from cheese.

J Food Prot, 1998 Oct, 61:10


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