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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:55 pm UTC

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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:21 pm UTC

King Author wrote:Crap. I'll make sure to get things in writing from now on.
*sigh*
What a country. You know, for a few weeks there, I actually thought Obama was gonna buckle down and stick it to big medicine, so they'd stop being able to dick us around with impugnity. But, liberals are pussies and conservatives are in the pocket of big business, so I guess that was delusional on my part.

What a country...
Yeah.. in writing, or it doesn't count.

Anyway, to answer your last bit...

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That pretty much summarizes it, though the whole of it is.... holyfuckcomplicated.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby folkhero » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:43 pm UTC

King Author wrote:*sigh*
What a country. You know, for a few weeks there, I actually thought Obama was gonna buckle down and stick it to big medicine, so they'd stop being able to dick us around with impugnity. But, liberals are pussies and conservatives are in the pocket of big business, so I guess that was delusional on my part.

What a country...

I don't think an idiot receptionist who oversteps her authority counts as "big medicine". I'm also not sure what sort of sticking it to big medicine that Obama could have done that would have helped you in this case. Should he have lowered the burden of proof for successfully suing doctors? Not only is that well outside of his authority, but it's also the worst idea ever if you want healthcare that is anywhere near affordable.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby JoeyJo0 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:49 pm UTC

KingAuthor. Have you heard what bullshit you're spouting?

First of all, damn, no doctors, at all?
Computers, unless so far advanced that they are able to empathise with humans, will never replace other humans, when it comes to medicine.
Headache? It could be a common illness, or it could be cancer. Takes a doctor with, you know, the ability to interpret test results to find out.

If you're going to complain about me living in the Netherlands, then don't make it serm like you're talking about *all* doctors.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby crowey » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:59 pm UTC

I'm sorry you had a bad time with your doctors, sounds like the receptionist really overstepped and fucked up. I hope you manage to get something worked out soon, and that whatever medical problem you have gets fixed.

That said, I think for the rest of this thread you've been an ass.
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Actually, come to think of it, can I? I wonder, do medical supply companies or whatever ever sell to citizens?

Short answer: no.
Longer answer: No way, this is why you need prescriptions to (legally) get medicine, and you can only (legally) get it from legitimate pharmacies.
If you're getting drugs to use in research (say, if you were working in biosciences at a university) you need all sorts of licencing and it's thoroughly illegal to use those drugs on people.
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I mean, doctors are pretty much obsolete now, anyway, what with Google. I've never gone to the doctor and not already known what my diagnosis was, just from Googling my symptoms. Doctors really just serve as safety measures against any old Joe getting his hands on any meds he wants; their diagnostic abilities are moot. Surgery is the only thing doctors have still really got, and they'll be replaced by robots in the future, so...I guess in the long run, things are looking up for me.

Then again, the robot surgeons will probably spontaneously develop A.I. and be total dicks, too.

I dunno, it's just...is this where we were supposed to end up? Humans, I mean. Where medicine is a privilege for the wealthy, not a right of the masses?

Other people have already said how wrong you are, but there's a reason that doctors take years and years to train up and why it's illegal to practice medicine without a licence. If one could simply google it, or look it up in a medical encyclopaedia then being a medic wouldn't be nearly such an elite profession.

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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby MiB24601 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:27 am UTC

Carnildo wrote:Legally, you may have a case (a verbal contract is as valid as a written one; the question is whether the receptionist has (or appears to have) the authority to negotiate it). The problem is that you'll have a hell of a time proving it in a court of law.

MiB24601 wrote:In Pennsylvania (where King Author seems to be located), to bring a suit for breach of contract, you have to attach a copy of the contract to the complaint. You can't file suit for breach of a verbal contract.

However, KA may be able to file a suit against the medical practice claiming negligent infliction of emotional distress. However, whether KA would be able to recover using that claim would really depend on the precise circumstances of KA's contact with the staff of the practice and requires knowing more specific details than what KA provided here.

King Author wrote:Crap. I'll make sure to get things in writing from now on.
*sigh*
What a country. You know, for a few weeks there, I actually thought Obama was gonna buckle down and stick it to big medicine, so they'd stop being able to dick us around with impugnity. But, liberals are pussies and conservatives are in the pocket of big business, so I guess that was delusional on my part.

What a country...


Considering that the suit is entirely a state matter and has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government, I have no idea why you brought Obama into this. Yes, the president campaigned heavily on his healthcare policy. It passed through congress and was signed into law. However, nothing in that healthcare policy, either what was initially proposed nor what was signed into law would change the circumstances you described so it's odd that you would bring up Obama.

King Author wrote:I dunno, it's just...is this where we were supposed to end up? Humans, I mean. Where medicine is a privilege for the wealthy, not a right of the masses?


There are several programs for medical care for people who can't afford it. There are federal programs and PA state programs. Also, hospitals are required to perform some procedures regardless of your ability to pay. You need to talk to someone about making use of these resources.

As an aside, I'm perplexed by your apparent hatred of doctors. Yes, medical care can be expensive but it's expensive to be a doctor. The training costs hundreds of thousands of dollars and the equipment needed for modern care costs millions of dollars. Additionally, as several others have pointed out in this thread, it is not an easy matter to replace a doctor with a google search. There are many procedures and tests which can only be performed by humans and results which can only be determined by humans. For example, radiology results can not be determined by computers.

I just find your hatred of doctors bewildering and I really wonder why you hate them.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby SurgicalSteel » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:34 am UTC

Because he's King Author and he's an angsty 14 year old who thinks he knows everything.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby gorcee » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:41 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:Because he's King Author and he's an angsty 14 year old who thinks he knows everything.


I have a hard time believing a 14 year old would be in a position to be making payment plan deals with a doctor's office, though.

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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby Deva » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:05 am UTC

King Author from the Introduction Thread wrote:I'm Caucasian (though my ancestry is Polish and it's how I identify), male, 22 years old and I live in Pennsylvania, United States of America.

Posted that over two years ago. Is twenty-four or twenty-five.

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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby Bakemaster » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:06 pm UTC

On the internet, 14 is a state of mind.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:15 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:On the internet, 14 is a state of mind.

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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby SurgicalSteel » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:17 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:On the internet, 14 is a state of mind.

This. I know KingAuthor isn't actually 14.
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby Tomlidich » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:47 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:On the internet, 14 is a state of mind.



if 14 is a state of mind, does that make me have multiple personality disorder?
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Re: Anyone know any legal mumbo-jumbo 'round here?

Postby crowey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:59 pm UTC

No. No it does not.


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