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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby SpitValve » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:02 pm UTC

Personally, I find the anti-piracy ads hilarious. The British have the "Piracy funds terrorism!" one, while the Americans (I think?) have the "You wouldn't steal a car!" ones, where the "download" button magically changes to "cancel" at a whim.

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A side point... there's apparently less carbon emissions in transporting beef from NZ to the UK than there are in housing cattle in barns over the British winter - NZ's milder winters mean that we don't need to keep them in heated barns, so it's actually better for the environment to ship them than to buy locally.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Awia » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:07 pm UTC

The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:18 pm UTC

Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!


Is it weird that I like that ad a lot better than the "you wouldn't steal" etc.. crap?
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Awia » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:22 pm UTC

pseudoidiot wrote:
Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!


Is it weird that I like that ad a lot better than the "you wouldn't steal" etc.. crap?


Nope, I think it's way better, it's more inventive for one.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby tryptanymph » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:36 pm UTC

Awia wrote:
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Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!

Is it weird that I like that ad a lot better than the "you wouldn't steal" etc.. crap?

Nope, I think it's way better, it's more inventive for one.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby kanavazk » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:53 pm UTC

Uh,

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???

Anyway that's some screwed up propaganda.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Awia » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:17 pm UTC

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That is an awesome comic, and it speaks the truth.

kanavazk wrote:Uh,
video wrote:If you just saw a naked ass, you were desperate to see one, you little homo.

???

Anyway that's some screwed up propaganda.

Errr...yeah, I didn't get it either.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby The Hyphenator » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:22 am UTC

I was laughing hysterically throughout that whole video (except the part with the programmers. What nerds. :) ) It really started to get good around 5:20.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby CVSoul » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:11 am UTC

I decided to dig this thread up because I just saw a great commecial fail.
A U.S. ad for a computer performance test called "FinallyFast.com" advertizes that free software/spyware is for PC computers only, but almost all of the ad's actors are sitting at Macs, saying "my computer used to be fast, but now it's not!" Most of the error messages are also clearly in FireFox too. I'm just giddy about it.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Day Tripper » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:37 pm UTC

A magazine ad for human growth hormone supplement claimed the following (scan here):

"...If you want to stay on top of your game, physically and mentally as you age, this product is a boon, especially for highly skilled professionals who have made large investments in their education and experience."

Because middle-class people don't care as much about their "investment", right. :roll: Otherwise known as their life.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby wing » Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:40 pm UTC

CVSoul wrote:I decided to dig this thread up because I just saw a great commecial fail.
A U.S. ad for a computer performance test called "FinallyFast.com" advertizes that free software/spyware is for PC computers only, but almost all of the ad's actors are sitting at Macs, saying "my computer used to be fast, but now it's not!" Most of the error messages are also clearly in FireFox too. I'm just giddy about it.

The real douchebaggery about those sites is that they're all purveyors of malware.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Shakleton » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:10 am UTC

Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!


I got in ONE little fight and my mom got scared....well, you know the text.

We have some of those adds in Germany as well. One of them to get extra credit. First of all all of my favourite grammar Nazis (including myself) have talked for hours about the bad grammar in that spot. And yet it's helariously illogical. Stating it here would be unwise as it's untranslatable due to various bad puns.

My favourite add of all times award goes to Lucky Strike, anyhow.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby wing » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:52 am UTC

Shakleton wrote:My favourite add of all times award goes to Lucky Strike, anyhow.
I don't smoke and I don't like the product they are selling but they have some clever guys in advertisement. Last year in Juli. Everybody was sweating like a horse, wearing shorts, rarely going out at all. On hot days it was easily above 100° F. So, Lucky Strike sets up an advertisement with two packages of cigarettes with santa-claus-hats and one big caption over it: "FIRST!!!!!!"

I so fucking lol'd


If that joke is what I think it is... I would have bought some damned cigarettes.

Also, The Onion has been running ads for Harold and Kumar go to Guantanamo Bay. A friend and I saw that, and promptly decided to see the movie. After "obtaining" watching it, he stated to me: "You realize we just watched a movie because of an ad..." "Yeah, but it's not like we bought the damned mkv file."

Take that, advertising!
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby ParanoidAndroid » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:42 am UTC

My favorite:

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Alpha Omicron » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:53 am UTC

ParanoidAndoroid: That isn't seriously from the RIAA is it?
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby ParanoidAndroid » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:00 am UTC

I'm not sure, but I really hope so. It's just the kind of thing they would do, anyway.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Tigerlion » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:04 am UTC

ParanoidAndroid wrote:My favorite:

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Tee hee.


Uh, anyway, nasty ads? I haven't watched much TV lately, but I think most ads for MMOs (Like that Mr. T/World of Warcraft one) are just, well, stupid.
Edit: I've seen a few bad banners for Maplestory, too.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby hermaj » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:36 am UTC

I'm hating the ads for the Olympics at the moment. There's one for some McDonald's kid's competition to win a trip to the Olympics, and it's got your standard excited-kid voice-over all "My Dad woke me up at 4am, and Ronald McDonald and the whole Sunrise (some morning programme) crew were there to tell me I'd won a trip to the Beijing Olympic Games!"

4am, guys? Surely it can wait a few hours, when people are actually awake? Not to mention, if Ronald McDonald came to my house at 4am for anything, I would probably be screaming in terror.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

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hermaj wrote:I'm hating the ads for the Olympics at the moment. There's one for some McDonald's kid's competition to win a trip to the Olympics, and it's got your standard excited-kid voice-over all "My Dad woke me up at 4am, and Ronald McDonald and the whole Sunrise (some morning programme) crew were there to tell me I'd won a trip to the Beijing Olympic Games!"

4am, guys? Surely it can wait a few hours, when people are actually awake? Not to mention, if Ronald McDonald came to my house at 4am for anything, I would probably be screaming in terror.


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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby mat-tina » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:50 am UTC

Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!


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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby BlackSails » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:20 am UTC

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Anthemyst » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:57 am UTC

How has no one mentioned the Dominos "You got 30 minutes!" ad campaign? (Has someone mentioned it already? I'll be embarrassed). The general format is, a deliveryperson shows up with a pizza, and someone looking or sounding fairly ridiculous for whatever reason answers and says, "Guess what we did with OUR thirty minutes?" and the deliveryperson guesses whatever stupid thing they did (Learned how to fake a Brooklyn accent/Burned off eyebrows/Reenacted a medieval war). They're very annoying ads that get old fast.

What confuses me is that the ad directly implies that thirty minutes is a large amount of time. Shouldn't Dominos be bragging about how QUICKLY their pizzas arrive? If the commercials portrayed people obviously mid-activity because they thought they had more time than they did, okay, that works. But these ads come off like Dominos is deigning to grant us THIRTY WHOLE MINUTES, during which we could do an endless number of activities. It's really odd.

More in the logical fallacy theme, Nantucket Nectars ran a radio ad that was two guys setting out to "Prove that 'real is better'". This consisted of them stopping a random woman on the street, and asking her to read the ingredients in a Nantucket Nectar juice, and some other juice, while also asking her questions like, "Red 40, huh? Do you like Red 40?". She didn't even taste the Nantucket Nectar drink at any point. I pseudo-angrily submitted an e-mail to their complaint website pointing out the specific and numerous statistical and logical errors, in hopes of getting free coupons, but no deal.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Xeio » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:16 am UTC

mat-tina wrote:
Awia wrote:The best anti-piracy ad is the "Don't copy that floppy" one, who doesn't love some guy randomly rapping.

Awesomness!


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Ah! So thats what the laughing man's goal was! It all makes sense now.Stupid stand alone complexes

What really annoys me is all those 'free' stuff and 'get rich quick' schemes now in commercials. Its bad enough they have them in banner ads (yay ad blocker? <_<) but in between my favorite shows? NOOOOO!

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ParanoidAndroid wrote:My favorite:

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby GhostWolfe » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:14 am UTC

Argh! The "message to my man Todd" ads are so very annoying. They were running this ad for car insurance where a woman called Amy stood in a jewellry shop and said that he could save *so* much money by switching his car insurance; ending with the line "give AMII a ring".

They've just release a new ad from the "new Mrs Todd" where she's in a travel agency. First she complains about how horrible their honeymoon was and as she holds up a brochure for Paris says "who knows where the savings will take you?"

Gah!

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby phlip » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:29 am UTC

Yes. Those AAMI ads are pathetic.

Though, $400ish would pay for a pretty fucking awful Paris honeymoon, so she'll get her comeuppance once she's sleeping in a Parisian cardboard box.

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Postby hermaj » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:16 pm UTC

Hahaha, that's exactly what I thought, too - $400 isn't a trip to Paris.

The Napisan ad is bothering me at the moment; the one where the kid asks all the questions and the mother answers them, and then the Napisan lady wanders on into the laundry, and the mother is relieved to see her rather than freaking out that some woman has turned up in her home. (I like the AGL ads for this, at least they make the people look surprised that some dude has walked into their house to talk about their gas systems.) What really gets me, though, is that she doesn't even answer the damn question.

Kid: "Why?"
Mum: "Because it targets stains in the wash."
Kid: "How?"
Mum: *blank*
Lady: "Napisan Oxyaction Intelligence or whatever targets stains in the wash!"
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Postby JayDee » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:02 pm UTC

GhostWolfe wrote:Argh! The "message to my man Todd" ads are so very annoying.

I was reading a newspaper article about annoying ads that talked alot about those ones. Included an interview with one of the guys behind it, saying that it works because it is annoying. Can't remember if he admitted that it was deliberately made to annoy, though.
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Postby Kithplana » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:34 pm UTC

Day Tripper wrote:A magazine ad for human growth hormone supplement claimed the following (scan here):
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Not to mention that HGH doesn't work in pill form, anyway -- at least not last I checked.

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Postby mat-tina » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:01 am UTC

I once saw an ad for a heat pump for heating the house: "Draws energy from the air. Guaranteed infinite power supply." I should have bought one and passed it down through generations to claim the warranty.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby EmptySet » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:47 am UTC

JayDee wrote:
GhostWolfe wrote:Argh! The "message to my man Todd" ads are so very annoying.

I was reading a newspaper article about annoying ads that talked alot about those ones. Included an interview with one of the guys behind it, saying that it works because it is annoying. Can't remember if he admitted that it was deliberately made to annoy, though.


Yeah, I think the idea is that it creates name recognition because everyone remembers it. Mind you, I'm not entirely sure that's good for sales, since the company is already well-known and the ad seems to condition people to respond to the company name with seething hatred.

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Postby BlackSails » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:04 am UTC

Kithplana wrote:Not to mention that HGH doesn't work in pill form, anyway -- at least not last I checked.


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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Poochy » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:58 pm UTC

I recently saw a political ad that outright disgusted me.

The ad was basically as many personal attacks as one could possibly squeeze into 30 seconds. Nothing about the candidate it was promoting. And nearly nothing was even said about the other candidate's past in politics; everything was downright personal. Including one attack on the other candidate's bowling ability.

Sure, political ads are usually disgusting to begin with, but it's been a while since I've seen an ad that made me make up my mind NOT to vote for the candidate it's trying to promote.
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:07 pm UTC

Speaking of campaign ads, Paris Hilton has actually gained a few cool points from me after releasing this in response to one of McCain's ads. "I'll see you at the debate.. bitches." Ha!
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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby crowey » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:14 pm UTC

ya, I'm totally torn, on the one hand it was superb, on the other it is Paris fucking Hilton....

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby Clumpy » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:33 pm UTC

I HATE radio commercials that go like this:

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"Hi, what can I do for you?"

"I'd like three tickets for a movie."

"But . . . but you're a burrito!"

"Not just ANY burrito - I'm a spicy chicken burrito from" . . . etc. etc.

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Just saying it doesn't make it so. You're a guy with a normal voice, and acting like a burrito is not a way to draw people to your crappy taco shop. It's unimaginative and bland. Burn in hell, burrito imposter!

It's just another example of some stupid shtick getting pushed beyond any relevance. Radio commercials are absolutely terrible. Strike that - TV commercials in general are terrible. Their job is to piss you off so much that you remember the business being advertised. Good advertisements usually get remembered in and of themselves while the companies they represent are immediately forgotten.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

Postby asad137 » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:38 pm UTC

Poochy wrote:I recently saw a political ad that outright disgusted me.

The ad was basically as many personal attacks as one could possibly squeeze into 30 seconds. Nothing about the candidate it was promoting. And nearly nothing was even said about the other candidate's past in politics; everything was downright personal. Including one attack on the other candidate's bowling ability.

Sure, political ads are usually disgusting to begin with, but it's been a while since I've seen an ad that made me make up my mind NOT to vote for the candidate it's trying to promote.


Are you in Minnesota too?

Those commercials disgust me too. It's blatant attack politics.

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Re: Logical fallacies/douchebaggery in commercials.

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