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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Quercus » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:47 pm UTC

freezeblade wrote: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Due to the monologue nature of the movie, narrator and all, This translated very well.


Ooh, must watch that - I loved the book but have never seen the film.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:55 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:
freezeblade wrote: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Due to the monologue nature of the movie, narrator and all, This translated very well.


Ooh, must watch that - I loved the book but have never seen the film.


It's enjoyable.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:28 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
Quercus wrote:
freezeblade wrote: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Due to the monologue nature of the movie, narrator and all, This translated very well.


Ooh, must watch that - I loved the book but have never seen the film.


It's enjoyable.

It must be Weird inside your head.

I read what you wrote about SuperMan.
You seem to understand Human Psychology through fictional characters.

You understand it well, too.
I do not understand most of Fictional Human Psychology and SterioTypes.

Real Human Psychology is too Weird, sometimes.
Most of us are fairly mundane. (thank the gods)

Mundane is fine with me.
I've had enough excitement to satisfy my needs for excitement for quite a while.

I did not watch the movie, "Fear and Lotheing in Las Vagas."
I did see the Trailer you left on this thread.

What do you think of the Morality of showing Large Audences unrealistic violent scenes?

I am thinking of the Car going Off Road.
Who does not Try such a stupid thing?

I tried it.
I Love Off Road!

The way the Movies says it is, is not accurate.
If people try that, they will have a very short Off Road experience.

Why tell people that sort of thing is possible?
Well...It is Possible!

Werid shit happens in the desert.
Aliens might suck you Up out of your topless car and have their way with you.

It is about as possible as taking a full size Old Caddie out across the desert.
Those deserts look a lot flatter than they are.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:44 pm UTC

New Question:
Is a Box of Rocks a common human experience?

Do you have a Box of Rocks?
Do you know anyone with a Box of Rocks?

Have you ever Not had a Box of Rocks?
What is the largest Box of Rocks you have ever encountered?

I was working with a Box of Rocks and thinking about Boxes of Rocks.
I have seldom been without a Box of Rocks. I can hold my Box of Rocks.

I am working with a Box of Rocks a Fork Lift might struggle with.
Stupid Box of Rocks.

Rocks are sure interesting.
It does not take much knowledge for the Imagination to take Off and Soar.

Obsidian. Petrified Wood. Rocks of Clay. Lava. Pumas.
These are not local rocks. These are Imports.

Think about that for a moment.
SomeOne Brought this Box of Rocks here, On Purpose!

To what end?
So that someone else, Me, can marvel at the Truths of Geology.

The Colors.
Red and Green and Yellow and Black and purest low grade Quarts White against Black Lava.

The Shapes are fascinating, too.
Round Rocks taken from the Sea Shore.
Broken Tumbled Rocks taken from the River.

Large Chunks taken from the Desert floor.
Do you know about the Petrified Forest?

No. It's not frightened.
It's long dead.

The Petrified Forest was amazing.
Trees had fallen and Fossilized and then been uncovered by the wind.

There were Whole Trees.
There were many parts and pieces of trees.

As they lay, the outline of a whole tree could be seen.
People! (of whom I am one)

We hauled off the Petrified Forest.
There are some Large Logs made of Rock left lying around.

The Government stepped in an put legal protections in place for the Long Dead Trees.
A little late... Better late than never.

Some of that forest is in this The Box of Rocks.
What to do? What to do?

Return the Rocks to The Wild?
That is a lot of trouble and I'm lazy.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby PhoenixEnigma » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:29 am UTC

I collected rocks as a kid, which I got the impression was reasonably common here, though I haven't had a rock collection since gradeschool (and I kept them in a canvas knapsack, not a box). I do still keep a couple polished semiprecious stones, but that's as much as role playing props as anything. The only adult I've known to collect rocks was my grandpa, though I don't think it's something that would comes up in casual conversation too much and maybe half my coworkers have secret hordes. My grandpa was a little unusual and a lot eclectic, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed uncommon. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure what happened to his rock collection, either, now that he's died and my grandma has moved, though I do have a couple of his field guides on my bookshelf.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:53 am UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:I collected rocks as a kid, which I got the impression was reasonably common here, though I haven't had a rock collection since gradeschool (and I kept them in a canvas knapsack, not a box). I do still keep a couple polished semiprecious stones, but that's as much as role playing props as anything. The only adult I've known to collect rocks was my grandpa, though I don't think it's something that would comes up in casual conversation too much and maybe half my coworkers have secret hordes. My grandpa was a little unusual and a lot eclectic, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed uncommon. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure what happened to his rock collection, either, now that he's died and my grandma has moved, though I do have a couple of his field guides on my bookshelf.

Do you remember him?
Did he talk to you?

What was Up with the Rocks?
Do you know what kind they were?

You wrote that you think it might be UnCommon to have a Box of Rocks.
I think it is very Common.

I wonder if any other xkcd posters has Rocks.
How can we Not??

Rocks are solid evidence.
Of what? Loads of stuff.

One: "I was on a Volcano."
The only place to get Lava is from a Volcano.

Rocks must have been the very first souvenir.
Followed closely by Bone?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Adacore » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:58 am UTC

I've heard the expression "dumb as a box of rocks", but have never owned a literal box full of rocks. I have the vague feeling that the expression is American in origin, but I'm not confident in that assertion.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:08 pm UTC

Hm. I'd always interpreted that not as "Isn't rock collecting stupid?" but as "A rock, being inanimate and made of stone, has no intelligence. A box of them would further compound the lack of intelligence."
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:29 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Hm. I'd always interpreted that not as "Isn't rock collecting stupid?" but as "A rock, being inanimate and made of stone, has no intelligence. A box of them would further compound the lack of intelligence."

Jeusu Christ!
Am I the only living human being that has actual experience with a Box of Rocks?

All of that, SecondTalon.
All of that and More.

A fucking Box of Rocks.
How Dumb is collecting Rocks?

It's not Dumb if you are a Geologist.
It's not Dumb if you are a....

ok. The only people that collect rocks that are Not Dumb are Geologists.
The Rest of us are and were, sort of, Dumb.

Rocks are so pretty. I have always collected Rocks.
It took Four Strong Young Men to move One Rock.

It damn near runed the car.
Those men could lift an empty Volkswagon.

They struggled to get that Stupid Rock into the Volkswagen.
We were So Stupid.

Like a Bunch of Ants, hauling off a Mountain;
One River of Glass at a Time.

I still like Rocks.
I still transport the stupid things.

And; Yes! You are Correct!!

Rocks are Inanimate Objects.
They have no Innate Intelligence.
Do they have Innate Worth?

Is there anything Stupider than a Box of Rocks?
Is there anything Worth Less than a Box of Rocks?

There are a great many things that are Worth Less than a Box of Rocks.
A Box of Rocks is engaging at the very least.

I looked deeply at that Box of Rocks and wondered,
"What is it that, Pisses Me Off, about this thing?"

I fought a Box of Rocks and we both Won.
I am worse for wear. The Rocks are doing Great!!

It was both the Location and the Accessibility of those Rocks, that bothered me.
I could change those things, so I did change those things.

Now, It's not a Box of Rocks.
It is Interactive Art.

It does not Piss Me Off, anymore.
It is no longer a Box of Rocks.

Never mind me.
The only thing I can do, today, that is not un-fucking-beliveably painful is type.

And; That hurts.
(fuck) I may silently bitch into the Internet....forever....

I don't want to move.
(fuck) Maybe the Box of Rocks won.

Shoot. There is an epiphany:
A Box of Rocks, Kicked My Ass.

(fuck) Don't send in a living being.
I can't out maneuver a Box of Rocks.

Edit: I wrote that it is now, Interactive Art.
I went out to check.

"Is it Interactive Art?"
Yes. Yes it is.

So funny.
Do I need a Sign?

This IS ART!
Play with it.

THEN!
LEAVE IT HERE!


To the untrained eye, it looks like Rocks.
Rocks. Just Rocks?

Those Rocks Kicked My Ass!
They are Amazing.

I love those Rocks.
They tell Stories.

The entire thing is in a Palate of Orange.
This Art tells a Local Story.

I wonder what story it would tell you.
It tells me a several stories.

One is a Story of Great Violence.
A Mountain of Quartz exploded in Fire.

The Quartz melted.
It was often contaminated with Ferris.

Our old friend Ferris.
Iron and the colors of Rust.

Look at all the Red and Orange.
Melted Glass. Melted Quartz.

How do you tell the difference?
To this very day, I have Pet Rocks.

One of my Pet Rocks is what is known Locally as an Agate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agate

Is it a True Agate?
I don't know.

It shows the layers of melting.
In the center, the crystals are still intact.

It is an interesting stone.
Nearly every stone in that Display is that interesting.

Some more than others.
How intereting the Rocks are may depend upon a person's mood.

The Art Display comes complete with a Seat for Contemplation.
Art is meant to be looked at.

Have a Seat.
Look at the Art.

It's ok to touch it.
You, just, walked on it.

When you are all done touching it,
Leave it here.

Someone went all the way to town and brought each and every one of these Stupid Rocks up here.

I brought that one over there.
I still like that Rock.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:20 pm UTC

I'm not sure I understand the question exactly, but I both collected rocks as a kid (in the sense of trying to have a sample of as many different kinds of gems and minerals as I could get my hands on), and my father was a mason (in the sense of a guy who laid brick and block and stone with cement and concrete and mortar, not the guys vying with the Illuminati for best shadow government cum New World Order), so I've seen lots of various kinds of boxes of rocks. Little boxes full of little rocks each in their own special box all labelled and neatly stacked. Big boxes containing lots of little rocks for sale to people who like to put them in little boxes and label them. Big crates full of less expensive rocks being hauled out of quarries, beaches, or riverbeds for use as construction materials. Even bigger crates full of fancy imported rocks from far-away quarries etc also for use as construction materials.

Does that help, Addams?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:30 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:I'm not sure I understand the question exactly, but I both collected rocks as a kid (in the sense of trying to have a sample of as many different kinds of gems and minerals as I could get my hands on), and my father was a mason (in the sense of a guy who laid brick and block and stone with cement and concrete and mortar, not the guys vying with the Illuminati for best shadow government cum New World Order), so I've seen lots of various kinds of boxes of rocks. Little boxes full of little rocks each in their own special box all labelled and neatly stacked. Big boxes containing lots of little rocks for sale to people who like to put them in little boxes and label them. Big crates full of less expensive rocks being hauled out of quarries, beaches, or riverbeds for use as construction materials. Even bigger crates full of fancy imported rocks from far-away quarries etc also for use as construction materials.

Does that help, Addams?

Yes!
Rocks.

You were surrounded by Rocks.
Some better than others.

They were All Rocks.
Did you ever drive the ForkLift?

Those things are Great.
How much damage can ya' do moving Boxes of Rocks?

On Purpose, A Lot.
By Accident, not much.

Break a nose of a Buddha here or there?
Don't worry. It gives the Old Boy character.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby PhoenixEnigma » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:27 pm UTC

addams wrote:Do you remember him?
Did he talk to you?

What was Up with the Rocks?
Do you know what kind they were?
I remember him, though not as well as I like - he passed away when I was 12, and I've sometimes wished I knew him better, being able to see what he thought of <x> or if he though <y> new invention was cool. The rocks were, I think, mostly collected from places they had visited as a sort of souvenir and not really anything special - his real hobby, at least as far as collections go, was coins.

My own question for the world: kids and workplaces, do they mix? Ameretrifle was talking today about how a couple of her coworkers had brought their children/babies in to work today in order to ...visit? Show off? I'm not entirely sure, and how they'd had a baby shower at work for one of them earlier in the year, and all this was viewed as pretty normal. I would find this highly unusual at work - while there's no lack of friendly relationships between coworkers, there's a fairly strong divide between working and socializing. For reference, she works for the state government in Florida, I work in IT support in western Canada, and I'm curious if this is just a variation in workplace culture, or if there's a geographic or industry aspect to it. What would you think of/how normal would children visiting and/or baby showers at the workplace (or the like, if applicable) be where you live and work?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby ahammel » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:32 pm UTC

PAstrychef wrote:Why do books have to be made into movies? Even allowing for the differences inherent between the two, it is usually horrible. Can't people just FRACKING read the book if they want to experience a given story?
Bad casting, bad scripts, either faithfully filming every scene and missing every nuance or filming a sequence that vaguely resembles the emotional content of the text but lacks any meaningful connection to the actual plot-it all just sucks.
Leave the literature alone, and come up with your own god damned stories, cinemaland!

Counterpoint: Stanley Kubrick.

But in general it's because nobody has written a script since the mid nineties.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby ameretrifle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:08 pm UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:
addams wrote:Do you remember him?
Did he talk to you?

What was Up with the Rocks?
Do you know what kind they were?
I remember him, though not as well as I like - he passed away when I was 12, and I've sometimes wished I knew him better, being able to see what he thought of <x> or if he though <y> new invention was cool. The rocks were, I think, mostly collected from places they had visited as a sort of souvenir and not really anything special - his real hobby, at least as far as collections go, was coins.

My own question for the world: kids and workplaces, do they mix? Ameretrifle was talking today about how a couple of her coworkers had brought their children/babies in to work today in order to ...visit? Show off? I'm not entirely sure, and how they'd had a baby shower at work for one of them earlier in the year, and all this was viewed as pretty normal. I would find this highly unusual at work - while there's no lack of friendly relationships between coworkers, there's a fairly strong divide between working and socializing. For reference, she works for the state government in Florida, I work in IT support in western Canada, and I'm curious if this is just a variation in workplace culture, or if there's a geographic or industry aspect to it. What would you think of/how normal would children visiting and/or baby showers at the workplace (or the like, if applicable) be where you live and work?

Might also be a gender aspect to it. I'm in a fairly female-heavy division. But I have both a recently added male coworker and a long-term female coworker who've brought their spouses and babies around. I've seen a couple other people bringing kids around too. A division chief brought his along to his goodbye party, they mostly seemed incredibly bored. Just to add data points.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:44 pm UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:
addams wrote:Do you remember him?
Did he talk to you?

What was Up with the Rocks?
Do you know what kind they were?
I remember him, though not as well as I like - he passed away when I was 12, and I've sometimes wished I knew him better, being able to see what he thought of <x> or if he though <y> new invention was cool. The rocks were, I think, mostly collected from places they had visited as a sort of souvenir and not really anything special - his real hobby, at least as far as collections go, was coins.

My own question for the world: kids and workplaces, do they mix? Ameretrifle was talking today about how a couple of her coworkers had brought their children/babies in to work today in order to ...visit? Show off? I'm not entirely sure, and how they'd had a baby shower at work for one of them earlier in the year, and all this was viewed as pretty normal. I would find this highly unusual at work - while there's no lack of friendly relationships between coworkers, there's a fairly strong divide between working and socializing. For reference, she works for the state government in Florida, I work in IT support in western Canada, and I'm curious if this is just a variation in workplace culture, or if there's a geographic or industry aspect to it. What would you think of/how normal would children visiting and/or baby showers at the workplace (or the like, if applicable) be where you live and work?

The work place and children:
I have seen a Wide Variety of Examples.

Loads of people take the children to work with them Regularly.
People with Home Businesses or Family Owned and Operated Businesses have the children working as soon as they can follow directions.

Child Labor Laws?
Picking up your Toys is Not a Child Labor Infraction!


All that Baby Shower nonsense does not make sense to me and it is considered Normal.
I have been in Offices that had those sorts of parties. (shrug)

I was usually working as a Temp.
I worked while the Party raged on.
Thank the Gods.

Those things are nearly as personal as a funeral.
They belong in the same Basket of Cultural Glue.

Back to Rocks.
I think people commonly have Rocks.

I was thinking about it.
In Ireland they have Rock Walls.

Some are Strange.
http://www.insideireland.com/sample15.htm

I thought they were poorly built.
https://www.google.com/search?q=stone+w ... B640%3B427

Look how poorly they fit together.
It seems they were built like that to let the wind through.

If the stones fit together well,
the wind blows the wall over.

For a long time, people have been handling Rocks.
In England the Ancient People were going for Quantity.

He who has the Biggest Rock Collection, wins.
https://www.google.com/search?q=stone+w ... B640%3B427

Not to be outdone the French painted their Rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux

In Eastern Europe, The Rock and The Bone crashed together during the Middle Ages or the Dark Ages.
Some people seem to think they know what was going on. I don't. They had Rock. They had Bone.

An outbreak of a hemoragic may have driven them Insane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary

Father east and Father back in time,
Sanity breaks out again.

But; They still had Rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_jade
Pretty Rocks.

Even way back, humans were collecting and stacking and messing around with Rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ġgantija

I have heard rumors of what seem to be purposeful grave sites in China that are older than humanity was supposed to be.
Who made these grave sites?
Who stacked the Rocks?

It looks like the work of People.
For some reason they can't say for sure.

They can tell what kind of Pollen fell off the Flowers.
They can't tell what kind of Human was buried within?

Weird.
It seems they are assuming it is human.

Last I heard, they were attempting to carefully remove some more material.
It will take a long time to finish exhuming that grave site, if they continue to use dental tools.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:34 am UTC

As long as the kids stay out of my way and the parents don't mind hearing swear words yelled across the office, and the ex-navy guys telling racist and sexist jokes, I couldn't care less. I'd think it was really weird, but whatever.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:51 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:As long as the kids stay out of my way and the parents don't mind hearing swear words yelled across the office, and the ex-navy guys telling racist and sexist jokes, I couldn't care less. I'd think it was really weird, but whatever.

What kind of a place do you work?
It sounds horrible.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:57 am UTC

I work in an office with a lot of ex-navy men. Some of them are cool, some of them are really putting to the test the idea that military service produces a respectful, hardworking person. I know it's probably not completely true, but the impression I get from these guys is that the navy is a tax-payer funded boys club full of sexist and racist dudes.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:07 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:I work in an office with a lot of ex-navy men. Some of them are cool, some of them are really putting to the test the idea that military service produces a respectful, hardworking person. I know it's probably not completely true, but the impression I get from these guys is that the navy is a tax-payer funded boys club full of sexist and racist dudes.

oh.
I'm so sorry.

That is a weird thing about the Navy.
How a fucked up tradition survives beyond the hardships of pre-modern ship life is so weird.

It is weird, but true.
I have seen that behavior for myself.

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Postby SecondTalon » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:12 am UTC

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bluebambue » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:35 am UTC

RE: collecting rocks
I had around 10 rocks of various interstingness in my room as a youngin'

RE: kids in workplaces
I have two experiences with this.
- A coworker would bring in their 10ish year old to work every Friday, likely due to some childcare situation. They were given video games and books to keep them occupied and they were well behaved. They were still a bit of a distraction.
- My current boss has brought her 5 year old to work once, I know because of a childcare situation. They significantly reduced my boss's productivity and made meetings a bit difficult.
I think both of those situations are appropriate. The kids were of minimal distraction who wasn't their parents - either because it only happened once or they were just not very distraction.
But I don't think bringing kids in is ok if it's to show off or get your direct reports/coworkers to provide free child care.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:12 pm UTC

I found another Box of Rocks.
Does this shit, only, happen to me?

I opened the door.
I saw what looked like a Box of Rocks.

I shut the door and walked away, stunned.

I went back to check.
"Is it, really, a Box of Rocks?"

Yes. Yes, Children; It is.
And! It is also a Box of Clocks.

Does the Fun never end?
The Clocks!

Most are broken in some way.
They are set to 4:20.

That shit is Funny.
Then there is That One Clock.

I did not like that Clock from the first moment I saw it.
What a Werid Clock.

It's Barque.
This one time,
Baraque is Broke.

What a weird Clock.
It is the only one with hands that move.

It was set at 4:20, once upon a time.
The hands kept moving.

That clock is not Right even Twice a Day!

I knew someone that could do the Math.
If I counted the beats per 30 seconds, using my watch;

He could give me the rate of difference.
What a guy.

Then we could know how often that Clock is Right.
Yes. He could give me the rate of decline,
if I gave him two numbers one hour apart.

What good is a Math Skill like that?
It's a fucking Palor Trick. Nothing More.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby roband » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:23 pm UTC

Only one person in my company (of 14 employees) has a kid. It's never been brought in.

Our lot bring their dogs in. Started with the owner, then the Sales Director and more recently one of the Dev guys.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:28 pm UTC

An Italian colleague of mine sometimes brings his daughter when he can't have her kept by school or professionals. She isn't disturbing us, but then my desk isn't in the same room as his. Also she doesn't speak French, so such days must be quite boring to her.

Also many young mothers have come to show their baby.

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Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:14 pm UTC

roband wrote:Our lot bring their dogs in. Started with the owner, then the Sales Director and more recently one of the Dev guys.
I wish I could still do this where I work. We used to be in a building that was basically deserted except for our team, so on weekends or late nights sometimes the team dogs would show up. We've since been moved to a much more populated building as well as much smaller cubes, so there'd be no room for a regular sized dog to sleep in the back of the cube without being in the way.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:49 am UTC

Another Question:
Do you think the internet has lowered our collective attention span?

I love the internet.
It is endlessly entertaining.

I look at a YouTube clip and check how long it is.
Fifteen miunutes?

Gee. I don't know.
It might be too long.

What?
Is it me, only?

How can it be?
The whole thing is Fast.

We must be able to change subject matter and mood dramatically and Fast.
It is a skill.

Have we lost anything while we were developing this skill?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:01 am UTC

Watching anything longer than a 20 minutes anime is a bit hard to me (unless I am in a theater). But I would blame anime, not the internet.

15 minutes of my time are precious, as time isn't an infinite resource (to get more we need to wait and not die ~ oh wait waiting is a waste too). I would watch that 15 minutes youtube video if it was recommended by a friend and they were convincing, or if some reason made me think it was remarkable. Otherwise I will have something else to do.

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Postby Moo » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:28 am UTC

At my old work, it was a case of "hey you guys saw me incubating an ever growing human for 9 months and then I wasn't here for 4 months and so, I thought I'd bring the results in so you can see since you sort of were on the journey with me".

At my new work, none of my colleauges have previously worked with a woman or a parent (very male dominated industry, very young team), and several of my co-workers (especially my manager) expressed an interest in meeting my son. So I brought him in, and everyone loved him, but it was on a Friday at the end of a sprint, in the afternoon after our code review.

For me, the attraction is that my son just sees me go off to magical Work Land every day which takes me away from him; I think it is good for him to see what that means.

He got hot chocolate from the break room and a lolly from Janet's desk and he got fawned over and watched nursery rhymes on Youtube, so he loved it and has expressed an interest in coming again. My manager has expressed interest in seeing him again as well.

But, I think I am working with a very very cool team and would not have initiated it if there wasn't expressed interest to start.

If there were a child care emergency, I'm not sure what I'd do as I have several backup plans, but I have been informed that there is a childcare facility over the summer holidays so I might bring him in then.
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Postby Quercus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:56 am UTC

My workplace is not exactly child friendly, but for very good reasons: it's a research institute filled with active laboratories; not a safe environment for a kid. Children are however allowed on the ground floor (where there are no labs, only administration and catering) and most parents in my team have brought their kids in to meet the rest of the lab members at one point or another. It's always fun when it happens, and a welcome 20 minute or so break from work. The director of the institute actually had his 10 year old son come in and sell home-baked cakes to the rest of the staff for charity a few weeks ago (I think his school had a charity fund-raising challenge).

Edit: as for child-care emergencies, people just work from home if necessary, our work is pretty flexible like that. On one occasion when one person had such an emergency, but absolutely had to do an experiment that day the rest of the lab took turns babysitting her kids for six hours or so (that was fine by us - it was a critical experiment for revisions to a paper in Science which most of us had authorship on, so it wasn't as if we were getting nothing out of it!)

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Postby Adacore » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:01 pm UTC

I don't think anyone would ever consider bringing a child into my workplace in Korea. We have family events every year or so (on Saturdays), but I've never been to one, and I'm not sure how many of my colleagues take their children to them. In the UK, the only time I ever saw a child in the office was when they were a few months old, and the parent had been away on maternity/paternity leave.

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Postby Quercus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:10 pm UTC

Adacore wrote:I don't think anyone would ever consider bringing a child into my workplace in Korea. We have family events every year or so (on Saturdays), but I've never been to one, and I'm not sure how many of my colleagues take their children to them. In the UK, the only time I ever saw a child in the office was when they were a few months old, and the parent had been away on maternity/paternity leave.


To be fair, lots of the visits from kids I talk about above were exactly this situation, but not exclusively. I think that working in a lab has a bit more of a "cool" factor for kids, so they are more likely to want to visit (even if they aren't actually allowed in the labs). And of course I see my boss's* son all the time, but that's because he works with us (he was hired before I arrived, so I don't know if it's nepotism, but even if it is I don't really mind because he's a great guy and damn good at his job).

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Chen » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:23 pm UTC

We've had mothers who are still off on maternity leave come in with the new babies but I've never seen another kid anywhere in here. I've also never seen the guys who leave on paternity bring a child in. I guess the whole "well you saw me pregnant for nearly 9 months, here's the result" thing is pretty common reason for women, whereas in the guy's case, you didn't really experience anything different.

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Postby Moo » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:30 pm UTC

Extra data point: my husband took the Mooling into work before I ever did, and still does on occassion even though he works in a far more formal and corporate environment than I do. People are generally well disposed to him doing so, although he also picks times like Friday afternoons. He's a pretty hands on dad though.

(this is not intended to be an argument against Chen's point, in case it looks that way)

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Postby yurell » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:49 pm UTC

Some of my favourite childhood memories are of going to the RAAF base at Laverton, or Victoria Barracks, with father. I remember being excited about it for weeks beforehand.
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Postby eran_rathan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:46 pm UTC

addams wrote:New Question:
Is a Box of Rocks a common human experience?

Do you have a Box of Rocks?
Do you know anyone with a Box of Rocks?



I have several actual boxes of rocks. Some even on my desk!

If I could find a camera I would show you them. I have some schist, anthracite, serpentine, granite, and plagioclase in front of me. There used to be some orthoclase on my desk, but it subsequently suffered a massive existence failure.
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Postby Quercus » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:32 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:
addams wrote:New Question:
Is a Box of Rocks a common human experience?

Do you have a Box of Rocks?
Do you know anyone with a Box of Rocks?



I have several actual boxes of rocks. Some even on my desk!

If I could find a camera I would show you them. I have some schist, anthracite, serpentine, granite, and plagioclase in front of me. There used to be some orthoclase on my desk, but it subsequently suffered a massive existence failure.


I had a huge box of rocks as a kid (including several with fossils in) - I gave them all to my old year 4 primary school teacher (equivalent of grade 3 in US terms) when I was 14 for him to use in a geology module. He was a pretty cool guy, which is probably why I agreed to give him my rock collection. He had a load of antique computers (BBC micros, Sinclair Spectrums etc.) which he used to let us mess around with for one lesson a week.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:50 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:
addams wrote:New Question:
Is a Box of Rocks a common human experience?

Do you have a Box of Rocks?
Do you know anyone with a Box of Rocks?



I have several actual boxes of rocks. Some even on my desk!

If I could find a camera I would show you them. I have some schist, anthracite, serpentine, granite, and plagioclase in front of me. There used to be some orthoclase on my desk, but it subsequently suffered a massive existence failure.

Alright!
The rock people come out from under the rock.

You Name Them!
That is so funny.

I had out a book and I was naming these rocks.
Then I decided that was stupid.

I am not going to label them.
I am not going to sell them.

They are Rocks.
That one over there, I call Norman.
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Postby Jumble » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:38 pm UTC

Plus one for the rock boxers. I'm now (even I have to admit) bordering onto grown up (mid 40s with two kids) but I've got rocks in boxes at home, on my desk at work, in the garden, etc. I'm not a geologist, I'm an astrophysicist, but I love rocks that tell the story of their creation, through heat, stress, pressure, etc. I'm on holiday in the most south westerly islands of the UK which only stick out of the Atlantic because they were volcanoes. I'm going to exceed my baggage allowance on the way back because my luggage will be full of rocks!
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:40 pm UTC

That is so funny and dear.

You are working with Generations and Generations of your people.
To haul off a mountain.

Basalt is Heavy.
Why are you taking Baslt?
It is such a common everyday sort of Rock.

For a while, when I traveled, I brought back sand.
That is a silly thing to have in carry on luggage.

I am not sure they would let me take it, today.
Sand is interesting.

It comes in colors and textures.
From corse Black Lava and Glass to fine White Limestone.

Astrophysics?
Star Gazer and Mover of Stone?

That seems like a nice Traditional Balance.
Most of us are Star Gazers and Movers of Stone.

A very lucky few get paid for it.
Lucky You.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby WibblyWobbly » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:03 pm UTC

Jumble wrote:Plus one for the rock boxers.


Have any good rock boxing beats?


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