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Re: Questions For The World

Postby oagersnap » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:34 pm UTC

A question to people from America: From watching movies and TV series, I get the impression that practically all wedding ceremonies in the US are held in private homes/gardens, or alternatively on a beach, in a forest or similar. Is this accurate?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby poxic » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:58 am UTC

Nope. Most big-type weddings happen in a church or a rented community hall of sorts. Small ones can take place in the office of a public official who can perform marriages, or in a public park. Only the rich usually get to do fancy stuff like private gardens and whatnot.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:02 am UTC

+1. Of the weddings I've been to, I can count on one hand and a couple of fingers* the number that were not in a church. It does change depending on where you are... the Bible Belt/South, the default assumption is that it's in a church, even if the bride and groom are both nonreligious. Not sure how it is elsewhere, but I figure the Midwest is going to be similar, with the West Coast and NorthEast not being as church-centric.. but I really have no idea.

I do know that in this area, it's going to be in a church 85% of the time. The smaller the community, the more likely it'll be in a church, often because that's one of the few buildings in the community large enough to have 50-100 people gather at once.


*I should point out that my wife's a wedding photographer.... I.. go to a lot of weddings is what I'm saying here.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:07 pm UTC

I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.

All but two were presided over by a religious figure though.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Enuja » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:24 pm UTC

Most weddings are in churches, but there are plenty of weddings in other places. My sister got married in my dad's back yard, I got married on beach. Both were tiny ceremonies (<10 people) and extremely unusual, but, there are "normal" weddings on beaches, and in parks and other places. When I lived in Southern California, I happened across outdoor weddings while walking quite often, but that doesn't mean that most weddings are outside in public places: these are just the most obvious weddings.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:32 pm UTC

Here in France, every marriage happens in some town hall. People who are into religion may then go to a church and have a ceremony there, but all the legal stuff has already been done at the town hall.

In my experience, the party is always somewhere else.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:37 pm UTC

Grop wrote:Here in France, every marriage happens in some town hall. People who are into religion may then go to a church and have a ceremony there, but all the legal stuff has already been done at the town hall.

In my experience, the party is always somewhere else.


Or sometimes no party.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby poxic » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:07 am UTC

Yeah, the car horn thing happens here too, though less often than it used to. When I was small, everyone honked when they saw a wedding procession (cars with plastic carnations taped to them). It seems to be dying out.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby sje46 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:24 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:59 am UTC

sje46 wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.

.....okay? What does that have to do with anything?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Chuff » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:12 am UTC

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Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.

.....okay? What does that have to do with anything?

I think he's suggesting that the average person goes to a wedding every two years. Which makes me 4. Or 6, if you count Tony and Tina's, which you shouldn't.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby poxic » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:41 am UTC

I'm 42 and I've been to ... counts on fingers ... fewer than ten weddings, I think. Only five that I can think of right now, though there might have been one or two more back when I was too young to care enough to remember.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby TimelordSimone » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:27 am UTC

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Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.

.....okay? What does that have to do with anything?

I think he's suggesting that the average person goes to a wedding every two years. Which makes me 4. Or 6, if you count Tony and Tina's, which you shouldn't.

I thought the suggestion was that 13 is in fact a lot of weddings to have attended for someone who is only 26.

(By comparison, I'm 22 and have attended 3 weddings, and I was too young to remember one of them.)
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Jumble » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:16 am UTC

If it helps, I'm 42 and have been to 8 weddings, including one where I was the best man and one where I was the groom. I think you go through waves of wedding invites. I'm waiting for the divorce-and-remarry wave to start.

Didn't know about the car horn thing in France. Doesn't seem to happen on the other side of the Channel, 20 meters from France (give or take). How wide-spread is the firing-weapons-in-the-air tradition in societies that are routinely armed?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby sje46 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:02 am UTC

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Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.

.....okay? What does that have to do with anything?

I think it's ridiculous to say 13 weddings in 26 years isn't "many weddings". It's like hearing a 16 year old say "I haven't had many boyfriends, only 8 or so". It's inaccurate and makes people feel bad.

I've been to one wedding that I can remember. Possible I went to other ones as a young child. I'm 22.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Felstaff » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:08 am UTC

Yeah, 13 weddings seems quite, Alot. I can count the number of weddings I've been to on one hand (six).
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Eseell » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:15 am UTC

I've been to two weddings, both at churches. That number will at least double this year.

Jumble wrote:How wide-spread is the firing-weapons-in-the-air tradition in societies that are routinely armed?

Anecdotally, it's enough of a problem in the US that laws have been enacted in some jurisdictions specifically targeting people who fire weapons into the air (above and beyond the usual laws against discharging firearms inside city limits/near habitable structures), but not so much a problem that I've ever actually heard gunshots on a holiday such as New Years or Independence Day.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby crowey » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:18 am UTC

why would it make people feel bad? I know people from massive families who have been to tons of weddings, because they have, like, 90 cousins or something.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Woofsie » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:15 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:Yeah, 13 weddings seems quite, Alot. I can count the number of weddings I've been to on one hand (six).

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Kang » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:25 am UTC

Eseell wrote:I've been to two weddings, both at churches. That number will at least double this year.

Jumble wrote:How wide-spread is the firing-weapons-in-the-air tradition in societies that are routinely armed?

Anecdotally, it's enough of a problem in the US that laws have been enacted in some jurisdictions specifically targeting people who fire weapons into the air (above and beyond the usual laws against discharging firearms inside city limits/near habitable structures), but not so much a problem that I've ever actually heard gunshots on a holiday such as New Years or Independence Day.

I remember reading that in the US alone every year multiple thousand people get injured or killed by bullets coming back down, which people who love to shoot in the air obviously don't think about. There has also been an incident in Kosovo I believe just a few years back in which a wedding party shot down an airplane passing overhead.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby ArgonV » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:11 pm UTC

TimelordSimone wrote:
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Izawwlgood wrote:I haven't been to many weddings, maybe 13, but I think 4 or so weren't in a Church or other religious structure.



You're twenty six years old.

.....okay? What does that have to do with anything?

I think he's suggesting that the average person goes to a wedding every two years. Which makes me 4. Or 6, if you count Tony and Tina's, which you shouldn't.

I thought the suggestion was that 13 is in fact a lot of weddings to have attended for someone who is only 26.

(By comparison, I'm 22 and have attended 3 weddings, and I was too young to remember one of them.)


I'm 23 and haven't attended a single wedding yet :cry: If my cousins would just get on with it and marry their girlfriends (who've been living together for years and also have kids...). But I've been to plenty of wedding anniversaries though.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby sje46 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:42 pm UTC

Kang wrote:
Eseell wrote:I've been to two weddings, both at churches. That number will at least double this year.

Jumble wrote:How wide-spread is the firing-weapons-in-the-air tradition in societies that are routinely armed?

Anecdotally, it's enough of a problem in the US that laws have been enacted in some jurisdictions specifically targeting people who fire weapons into the air (above and beyond the usual laws against discharging firearms inside city limits/near habitable structures), but not so much a problem that I've ever actually heard gunshots on a holiday such as New Years or Independence Day.

I remember reading that in the US alone every year multiple thousand people get injured or killed by bullets coming back down, which people who love to shoot in the air obviously don't think about. There has also been an incident in Kosovo I believe just a few years back in which a wedding party shot down an airplane passing overhead.

I recall a study where they took a machine gun, and pointed it straight up in the air, and shot I believe 500 rounds. Only one landed within fifty feet. Or something. I don't know. However, it depends how you shoot it. Straight into the air means it won't be lethal coming back down. If shot at an angle, it has a much higher chance of being lethal.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Menacing Spike » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:02 pm UTC

Kang wrote:a wedding party shot down an airplane passing overhead.


That's a hilarious way to die.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Kang » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:03 pm UTC

sje46 wrote:I recall a study where they took a machine gun, and pointed it straight up in the air, and shot I believe 500 rounds. Only one landed within fifty feet. Or something. I don't know. However, it depends how you shoot it. Straight into the air means it won't be lethal coming back down. If shot at an angle, it has a much higher chance of being lethal.

That's exactly the point. They don't come down anywhere near where you shoot, so a lot of people wrongly decide that it was not dangerous, oblivious to the fact that the bullets can still rain down on unsuspecting people living a good distance away.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Von Haus » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:56 pm UTC

sje46 wrote: Straight into the air means it won't be lethal coming back down. If shot at an angle, it has a much higher chance of being lethal.

Please explain.
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Re: Questions For The World

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Von Haus wrote:
sje46 wrote: Straight into the air means it won't be lethal coming back down. If shot at an angle, it has a much higher chance of being lethal.

Please explain.


Well, if it comes straight down, it's only going to hit 1 person (unless two people are laying on top of each other...).

If it comes down at an angle, it could hit a tall person and a short person, if they were stood the correct distance from each other.

Logic, ennit? ;)

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:02 pm UTC

Err, yeah. One good gust of wind 50 meters up, and you've got a bullet that decides to fall much further away than straight up, straight down.
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Postby roband » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:03 pm UTC

I was totally joking.

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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:06 pm UTC

Mythbusters wrote:In the case of a bullet fired at a precisely vertical angle (something extremely difficult for a human being to duplicate), the bullet would tumble, lose its spin, and fall at a much slower speed due to terminal velocity and is therefore rendered less than lethal on impact. However, if a bullet is fired upward at a non-vertical angle (a far more probable possibility), it will maintain its spin and will reach a high enough speed to be lethal on impact. Because of this potentiality, firing a gun into the air is illegal in most states, and even in the states that it is legal, it is not recommended by the police. Also the MythBusters were able to identify two people who had been injured by falling bullets, one of them fatally injured. To date, this is the only myth to receive all three ratings at the same time.
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Re: Questions For The World

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Von Haus wrote:
sje46 wrote: Straight into the air means it won't be lethal coming back down. If shot at an angle, it has a much higher chance of being lethal.

Please explain.

First off, assuming there is no wind or any other factors like that.

When you shoot straight up, the bullet ultimately reaches the top, and then stops, then falls back down. When it does this, it doesn't retain the energy you shot it with. It would be pretty much the same as simply going to the point where the bullet reaches the peak, and simply dropping the bullet to the ground. The amount of force would be pretty much equivalent, so however much it would hurt if a metal bullet dropped on your head, that's how much it would hurt if you shot a bullet straight up into the air, and it fell straight down. Also, I should note that when you drop a penny from the empire state building, the air resistance makes it so that it won't embed into the concrete. It reaches a terminal velocity and stays there. The same would be true with bullets, although bullets are more aerodynamic, I still doubt they would be able to enter a body.

If you shoot a bullet upwards but not straight up, that is more dangerous because it conserves a lot more of the energy.

I'm not a physicist, though, only took one class in high school.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:12 pm UTC

There was a teaching exercise in Mass Effect 2 that I can't find online that explained kinetic weapons in space really well. It was a gunnery sergeant instructing two recruits about why they needed to know where they were firing before they fired. Reason I mention this, is it is highly unlikely that even firing straight up that the bullet will come straight down along the same vector.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby roband » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:53 pm UTC

But.. but.. if you're talking 'perfect world' like the guys above were, then.. it would.

As in, no wind, and 'straight' meaning exactly that.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:56 pm UTC

Man, in a perfect world we'd all be immortal, not need to breathe or eat or drink, and the experiment would be conducted using unobtainium.

Also, planetary rotation, momentum, friction, mass, etc.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby roband » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:06 pm UTC

Oh god, WHAT IF THE GUN JAMMED?

I typo'd that as 'fun'. It seemed relevant.

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Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:09 pm UTC

Man, if the fun jams we're all screwed.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby poxic » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:20 pm UTC

Jams are totally fun. We do them all the time.
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Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:22 pm UTC

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Menacing Spike » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:55 pm UTC

Oregonaut wrote:There was a teaching exercise in Mass Effect 2 that I can't find online that explained kinetic weapons in space really well. It was a gunnery sergeant instructing two recruits about why they needed to know where they were firing before they fired. Reason I mention this, is it is highly unlikely that even firing straight up that the bullet will come straight down along the same vector.


The instructor was talking about the lack of air resistance. It boiled down to "if you fire and miss, someone somewhere sometime is going to be hit by a projectile near the speed of light".
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Oregonaut » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:02 pm UTC

...Not really, considering firing at something you don't see, or nothing at all, is never a good idea. Firing for the sake of firing is never a good idea. Firing a projectile straight into the air is never a good idea.

The statement was relevant.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:18 pm UTC

Especially if you're the "someone somewhere sometime"
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