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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:36 pm UTC

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Fresh pineapple also breaks down gelatin. Pineapple jelly is only possible with boiled juice.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Samik » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:58 pm UTC

Today in TIL: All you ever wanted to know about pineapples.

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Postby bachaddict » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:18 am UTC

I've got another fact: pretty much all other languages call it some variation on 'ananas'
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Postby felltir » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:44 pm UTC

bachaddict wrote:I've got another fact: pretty much all other languages call it some variation on 'ananas'

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Postby Quercus » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:43 pm UTC

Ooh, I've got one too:

Replacing the traditional water with pineapple juice is a great way to begin a sourdough starter.

A microbiologist called Debra Wink did a proper set of troubleshooting experiments on the protocol to make a sourdough starter. It turns out that if the starter isn't acidic enough at the very beginning it can become temporarily dominated by Leuconostoc bacteria, which delays the establishment of the desired yeast/Lactobacillus community, and can tip the culture to complete failure if you're unlucky. Pineapple juice is perfect to acidify the starter in the first few days and prevent Leuconstoc growth.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:13 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:Ooh, I've got one too:

Replacing the traditional water with pineapple juice is a great way to begin a sourdough starter.

A microbiologist called Debra Wink did a proper set of troubleshooting experiments on the protocol to make a sourdough starter. It turns out that if the starter isn't acidic enough at the very beginning it can become temporarily dominated by Leuconostoc bacteria, which delays the establishment of the desired yeast/Lactobacillus community, and can tip the culture to complete failure if you're unlucky. Pineapple juice is perfect to acidify the starter in the first few days and prevent Leuconstoc growth.

This is fascinating.

I was told about people that lived on Starter.
It's a strange story. Survival in Alaska. (yuck. Brrr)

I do not recommend repeating the experiment.
People had starter in a jar they carried around their necks.

They melted snow to add to the starter.
They drank the starter.

The Yeast protein and carbos kept them alive.
It was such a strange story.

Women did that, too.
It was in diaries.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:35 pm UTC

TIL that my phone (or, the google drive app) can read text in images on my phone.

I took screen shots of all my past paper question, saved as .png, then used gnu to type the answers on (overwriting as .png again). Then today in lectures when I was using the search function, I realised that it searched the content within the images and not just the file names!!!

This has made my life sooooooo much easier.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Whizbang » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:47 pm UTC

In old English "Apple" meant pretty much any fruit. Originally a pineapple referred to a pine cone. Pineapples, as they are called today, were named thus because of their resemblance to pine cones.

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Postby Angua » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:49 pm UTC

That explains so much.

Sugarapple. Golden apple. Wax apple. Custard apple.
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:00 pm UTC

Eve eating an "apple" that was ... not an apple.
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Postby ucim » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:09 pm UTC

Angua wrote:TIL that my phone (or, the google drive app) can read text in images on my phone.
This has made my life sooooooo much easier.
... and creepier.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Adacore » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:45 pm UTC

bachaddict wrote:I've got another fact: pretty much all other languages call it some variation on 'ananas'

Not in every language, though. In Korean it's 파인애플 ('painaepeul'). In Afrikaans it's 'pynappel'. In Filipino and Catalan it's 'pinya'. In Japanese 'パイナップル' ('painapurru'), and even in Spanish I believe it's more often 'piña' than 'ananas'.

This annoys me about the infographic. It wouldn't significantly weaken the point to include the above examples, but data were still cherrypicked to make it look like English is entirely unique in not using 'ananas', which it is not.

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Postby Quercus » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:59 pm UTC

Adacore wrote:
bachaddict wrote:I've got another fact: pretty much all other languages call it some variation on 'ananas'

Not in every language, though. In Korean it's 파인애플 ('painaepeul'). In Afrikaans it's 'pynappel'. In Filipino and Catalan it's 'pinya'. In Japanese 'パイナップル' ('painapurru'), and even in Spanish I believe it's more often 'piña' than 'ananas'.

This annoys me about the infographic. It wouldn't significantly weaken the point to include the above examples, but data were still cherrypicked to make it look like English is entirely unique in not using 'ananas', which it is not.


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Postby Magnanimous » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:34 pm UTC

Yay, I correctly guessed what that acronym is.

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Postby Quercus » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:46 pm UTC

Today was a day of discoveries:

  1. TIL that a scientist I collaborated with on the other side of the country over a year ago has been living, unbeknownst to me, one street away from me for the past few months.
  2. The terrible screen protector I had on my phone finally fell off... to reveal a great screen protector underneath. I had, of course, left the disposable film on my screen protector for two months, and wondered why it had a horrible texture and kept getting more and more scratched.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby speising » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:51 pm UTC

I removed the terrible screen protector from my phone (bought used), to reveal a wonderful glass screen underneath. seriously, sticking plastic on your screen reminds me of those plastic protectors some people alledgedly put on their sofas. what's the use of having a pristine surface if you don't use it?

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Postby Whizbang » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:59 pm UTC

The point being, of course, that when you screen protector gets scratched you can just peel it off and replace it, whereas replacing the glass screen is more costly. For only a little bit more money you can get a tempered glass screen protector that, supposedly, gives you additional drop protection as well as better look/feel. I do not know if these claims are true, but it makes sense.

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Postby speising » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:06 pm UTC

Yeah, just be a little careful. My phone is 6 years old now and has two small scratches. I can live with that.

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Postby emceng » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:07 pm UTC

Well yeah, screen protector means I can carry my phone in a pocket with my car keys, and it doesn't get scratched. Hell, I can take my car keys, vigorously rub them on the screen, and it only mars the protector a little. You've all seen pictures of phones with screens so scratched you can barely read them.
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Postby Angua » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:08 pm UTC

I have a glass screen protector.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:17 pm UTC

speising wrote:Yeah, just be a little careful. My phone is 6 years old now and has two small scratches. I can live with that.


I guess you don't spend too much time at the beach. Two small scratches in six years just isn't realistic if your pockets regularly contain sand.

Whizbang wrote:The point being, of course, that when you screen protector gets scratched you can just peel it off and replace it, whereas replacing the glass screen is more costly. For only a little bit more money you can get a tempered glass screen protector that, supposedly, gives you additional drop protection as well as better look/feel. I do not know if these claims are true, but it makes sense.


Indeed. I was planning to get a glass screen protector, but the plastic one came free with my phone.

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Postby eviloatmeal » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:55 am UTC

Quercus wrote:Two small scratches in six years just isn't realistic if your pockets regularly contain sand.

Why would you put sand in your pockets?

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I do know a couple of people who expect their telephones to get wet and/or a bit roughed up by nature, and they just keep them in one of those little watertight hiking sleeves.


I don't have a screen protector. I did a bit of reading in the days following my crawling out of the stone age and decided to put my money on "the screen is the protector, for protecting the stuff behind it". That said, I'm also considerably careful with my overpriced electronics; I keep mine in a thick crocheted sleeve at all times unless I'm holding it and using it, so the screen never ever touches anything except cotton or my fingers.

Oh, and I also don't regularly flop about on the ground at the beach, at least not while I have a telephone my pocket. :P
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Postby Wonderbolt » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:20 am UTC

eviloatmeal wrote: That said, I'm also considerably careful with my overpriced electronics; I keep mine in a thick crocheted sleeve at all times unless I'm holding it and using it, so the screen never ever touches anything except cotton or my fingers.

You must be significantly less clumsy than I am, since I drop my phone a lot. Mostly when fumbling with earphones and I accidentally pull the phone out of my pocket. Still, my phone (despite being a smartphone) seem to be virtually indestructable, so so far it's survived with only a few minor scratches on the cover.

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Postby eviloatmeal » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:56 pm UTC

Wonderbolt wrote:You must be significantly less clumsy than I am, since I drop my phone a lot.

I wouldn't say I'm particularly not-clumsy (although I've had some practice), but I'm very careful. Also, I hardly use my telephone - I check the time a few times a day, send a text message or two, and play Wordfeud while... in the lavatory.
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Postby Quercus » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:22 pm UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:Why would you put sand in your pockets?


I don't put sand in my pockets - the beach does. If there is any signficant wind it's impossible to avoid sand being blown onto and into everywhere (my three week old tripod already has sand in one of the leg locks).

eviloatmeal wrote:I do know a couple of people who expect their telephones to get wet and/or a bit roughed up by nature, and they just keep them in one of those little watertight hiking sleeves.


Much too bulky for easy trouser pocket carrying, and I don't trust that sort of thing to not leak at inopportune times. I have a waterproof smartphone (certified for 30min immersion up to 1.5m) and, as I mentioned, a screen protector.

I have only ever dropped a smartphone once (and it was fine). You quickly get out of the habit of dropping things if you do much rock climbing.

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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:50 pm UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:
Quercus wrote:Two small scratches in six years just isn't realistic if your pockets regularly contain sand.

Why would you put sand in your pockets?

Why *wouldn't* you keep sand in your pockets?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Adacore » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:14 am UTC

I went to a waterpark with my girlfriend last summer. I'm going to say about 50% of the people there had waterproof cases for their phones around their necks, and were casually using them to surf the net or use text chat services while swimming in the pools or lounging in the hot tubs. It seemed crazy to me, even if the product is meant to be completely waterproof, I'm not sure I'd risk my $600 phone on the integrity of a $5 case.

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Postby Quercus » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:32 am UTC

Adacore wrote:I went to a waterpark with my girlfriend last summer. I'm going to say about 50% of the people there had waterproof cases for their phones around their necks, and were casually using them to surf the net or use text chat services while swimming in the pools or lounging in the hot tubs. It seemed crazy to me, even if the product is meant to be completely waterproof, I'm not sure I'd risk my $600 phone on the integrity of a $5 case.


Also, these people are in a waterpark, a place that literally has the highest density of fun stuff to do the designers could possibly cram in there. You'd have thought that would be diverting enough to obviate the need to check phones constantly.

I don't know what's up with stuff these days - I'm 25 and I feel like a grumpy old man: "why are you paying to be in a movie theater when all you do is look at your phone, watch the damn movie, grumble, grumble", "there's a beautiful sunset and no-one has noticed because nobody has looked up from their phone for the past half hour, kids these days [waves metaphorical walking stick angrily]".

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Quercus wrote:
Adacore wrote:I went to a waterpark with my girlfriend last summer. I'm going to say about 50% of the people there had waterproof cases for their phones around their necks, and were casually using them to surf the net or use text chat services while swimming in the pools or lounging in the hot tubs. It seemed crazy to me, even if the product is meant to be completely waterproof, I'm not sure I'd risk my $600 phone on the integrity of a $5 case.


Also, these people are in a waterpark, a place that literally has the highest density of fun stuff to do the designers could possibly cram in there. You'd have thought that would be diverting enough to obviate the need to check phones constantly.

I don't know what's up with stuff these days - I'm 25 and I feel like a grumpy old man: "why are you paying to be in a movie theater when all you do is look at your phone, watch the damn movie, grumble, grumble", "there's a beautiful sunset and no-one has noticed because nobody has looked up from their phone for the past half hour, kids these days [waves metaphorical walking stick angrily]".

It's tricky to learn and practice the difference between Being judgmental and having Good Judgment.

I live on a pretty Planet.
I saw a little old lady taking photos of the Ocean crashing against the shore with an iPad.
She could easily see the image.

She was able to record a few moments of it moving with sound.
She was able to send that image over the internet.

Before the internet those WaterPark people were reading the newspapers or scowling at the world.
They are happier with their phones.
The phone keeps them out of your way.

The tool is simply a tool.

A rondom thought:
After that old bastard shot that guy in the Movie Theater;
(The man was using his phone in Public.)
Has the General Public developed better manners?
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Quercus wrote:I don't know what's up with stuff these days - I'm 25 and I feel like a grumpy old man: "why are you paying to be in a movie theater when all you do is look at your phone, watch the damn movie, grumble, grumble", "there's a beautiful sunset and no-one has noticed because nobody has looked up from their phone for the past half hour, kids these days [waves metaphorical walking stick angrily]".


You just reminded me of the classic cartoon TV Sunrise, created several decades ago by Michael Leunig.
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I'll watch real life when they upgrade it to 3D HD or better.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:10 am UTC

addams wrote:It's tricky to learn and practice the difference between Being judgmental and having Good Judgment.

I live on a pretty Planet.
I saw a little old lady taking photos of the Ocean crashing against the shore with an iPad.
She could easily see the image.

She was able to record a few moments of it moving with sound.
She was able to send that image over the internet.

Before the internet those WaterPark people were reading the newspapers or scowling at the world.
They are happier with their phones.
The phone keeps them out of your way.

The tool is simply a tool.

A rondom thought:
After that old bastard shot that guy in the Movie Theater;
(The man was using his phone in Public.)
Has the General Public developed better manners?


Don't take me too seriously - people are of course free to do whatever they like with their phones, and I wouldn't have it otherwise. I guess my "dissenting view" comes from being introverted to the point that I find constant social contact oppressive, and cherish the times I can be alone with my thoughts. If I was a gregarious extrovert I'd probably be texting all the time too. I am also lucky enough to have a very long attention span, which means I have less desire for distractions than lots of people.

I'd forgotten about the movie theater shooting - that makes my comment seem in rather bad taste. :oops:

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:07 pm UTC

PM 2Ring wrote:
Quercus wrote:I don't know what's up with stuff these days - I'm 25 and I feel like a grumpy old man: "why are you paying to be in a movie theater when all you do is look at your phone, watch the damn movie, grumble, grumble", "there's a beautiful sunset and no-one has noticed because nobody has looked up from their phone for the past half hour, kids these days [waves metaphorical walking stick angrily]".


You just reminded me of the classic cartoon TV Sunrise, created several decades ago by Michael Leunig.
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Thank you so much for that link.
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"Or; Stay in bed and watch the Live Cam?"

(sniff-sniff)I don't have a working Live Cam.
Do you?
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addams wrote:
PM 2Ring wrote:You just reminded me of the classic cartoon TV Sunrise, created several decades ago by Michael Leunig.
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Thank you so much for that link.
What is the Point?

TV sunrises are warmer?
And! You can make it Do It, again!

What luxury.
"Shall we go up on the roof and watch the sunrise?"
"Or; Stay in bed and watch the Live Cam?"

(sniff-sniff)I don't have a working Live Cam.
Do you?


I'm glad you like it, addams. Michael Leunig is one of Australia's national treasures. His work can be dark, but it's never bitter, unlike many political cartoonists.

Here's an example of his dark humour:
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Postby addams » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:28 am UTC

That is so funny.

Olive oil comes from crushing olives.
Almond oil comes from crushing almonds.

We all know where baby oil comes from.
Now I know where lady powder comes from.
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Postby eviloatmeal » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:13 am UTC

addams wrote:We all know where baby oil comes from.
Now I know where lady powder comes from.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:31 pm UTC

Today I learned Bread with too much sugar is Cake.
That is common knowledge to many people.

I learned it by doing.
Now, I can make a really weird Cake.

It's ok; Almost good, when warm with butter.
Honey and a cold glass of milk make the warm Bread/Cake yummy.

I know from experience, this bread is best when fresh.
When stale it becomes, Auntie Addams' Edible Construction Bricks.

Dry this thing in the sun and it will go head-to-head with adobe.
During times of great want, Eat The House;

Like Hansel and Gretel did.

Edit: Has anyone come up with Emergency Chalk/Wax that is edible and nutritious.
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Some of us see The Gutter.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Wonderbolt » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:16 pm UTC

addams wrote:Auntie Addams' Edible Construction Bricks.

I would totally buy this if I saw it inna supermarket.

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Re: Two days ago I Learned

Postby Felstaff » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:45 pm UTC

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= designed by Salvador Dalí
Away, you scullion! you rampallion! You fustilarian! I'll tickle your catastrophe.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:01 am UTC

Salivator Dali?
slinches wrote:Also, the OTC isn't a disease. In fact, it's the cure. As we all know, Time heals all wounds.

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