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Re: Today I Learned

Postby ameretrifle » Sun May 18, 2014 2:52 am UTC

Today I learned about the Digital Comic Museum.

That was by way of a tumblr link about pre-Code female heroes, which I mention because some things are just too awesome not to share. I mean, dear god. "Lady Satan". It is ridiculous and awesome and ridiculously awesome on a good half a dozen different levels. You could write a thesis on this shit.

LADY SATAN wrote:With a black hatred in her heart for all oppressors, Lady Satan hurries toward the government building.

(not that the others don't look awesome too, it's just, Lady Satan)

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Tomlidich the second » Mon May 19, 2014 10:07 pm UTC

pseudoidiot wrote:WE BUILT THIS CITY

Well that's stuck in my head now. Hopefully yours too.


some men just want to watch the world burn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJr5l7j8VeU

also, most of the civil engineers i have dealt with in my travels came off a tad pompous, kind of looked down on me as a "lowly" network engineer.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue May 20, 2014 4:59 am UTC

ameretrifle wrote:Today I learned about the Digital Comic Museum.

That was by way of a tumblr link about pre-Code female heroes, which I mention because some things are just too awesome not to share. I mean, dear god. "Lady Satan". It is ridiculous and awesome and ridiculously awesome on a good half a dozen different levels. You could write a thesis on this shit.

LADY SATAN wrote:With a black hatred in her heart for all oppressors, Lady Satan hurries toward the government building.

(not that the others don't look awesome too, it's just, Lady Satan)

Active female heroes are delightful.
For all our Freedom, we have lost something along the way.

Thank you for sharing.
I also think the odd female heroes are Great.

All humans need role models.
Spoiler:
If she can do That; I can pass algebra.


Mother Hubbard! That's funny.
MOTHER HUBBARD - Looking like a cartoon witch, speaking only in rhyme, Mother Hubbard uses her bizarre occult powers to do battle.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Dinosaur! » Wed May 21, 2014 7:29 am UTC

TIL: Linear algebra hurts my brain :)

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Red Hal » Wed May 21, 2014 12:55 pm UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:also, most of the civil engineers i have dealt with in my travels came off a tad pompous, kind of looked down on me as a "lowly" network engineer.

Which I suppose makes them quite uncivil, actually.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Wed May 21, 2014 12:56 pm UTC

Today I learned that... (spoilered for possible TMI - I'm not taking any chances)

Spoiler:
I can't hock a loogie without gagging so much that I almost throw up. Which is bad, because right now I have a really nasty cough that produces waaaay too much phlegm. :(
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Wed May 21, 2014 1:17 pm UTC

Hock. Not hawk.

But I feel for you.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Whizbang » Wed May 21, 2014 1:21 pm UTC

I one time watched my aunt (who is a year younger than me because family), thrash around on the floor because she couldn't swallow a couple of aspirin. She wasn't choking, just gagging on the pills and decided that was best done while writhing on the floor and wailing. She was 15 at the time.

To all you people who have a sensitive gag reflex, I pity and mock you.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby WibblyWobbly » Wed May 21, 2014 2:17 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Hock. Not hawk.

But I feel for you.

Actually, 3hawk seems to be the original term. If you're referring to phlegm, that is.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Wed May 21, 2014 2:18 pm UTC

Huh.

Nevermind then!
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed May 28, 2014 11:27 pm UTC

Cats don't like the sound of Aluminum Foil rustling in the wind.
So, funny. It is a weird sound.

Spoiler:
What may be my new room mate has cats.
Weird animal. I like them.

They seem to like me, too.
They walk all over me.

Like everyone else.
I suppose.

They were bothering me.
The Foil I put up makes a strange sound.

They don't like it.
A New and Strange Cat Repellant.
Foil Blowing in the Wind.

I repels me, too.
It is a very strange sound.

Do you know about these?
https://www.google.com/search?q=waterph ... 80&bih=594

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyv6t3OS3c
Those make a strange sound, too.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Sat May 31, 2014 11:41 am UTC

Edentulous is the word for lacking teeth.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:04 pm UTC

I learned a Weather Thing.

The Santa Anna winds, I knew a little about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds

I knew this effect is strong and localized.

It exists in Arles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arles#Geography

There is Strong evidence that this sort of wind effects mood.
Some people suggest the wind helped to push Van Gogh over The Edge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_va ... .931889.29

i found another surprising example of the Effect.
It is called The Chetco Effect.

The wind moves down hill gaining both Velocity and Temperature.
That is a strong thirsty wind.

It creates micro climates.
Weird and wonderful.

Manzanita between the Cedar and the Water.
That is, kind of, weird. Watch for Poison Oak.

Willow between the Cedar and the Water would be Normal.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby onoresrts63 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:47 am UTC

I learned that if you fear that you can't do something on a constant basis. Force yourself to do it the first three times and you find yourself able to do it comfortably :D

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:03 am UTC

onoresrts63 wrote:I learned that if you fear that you can't do something on a constant basis. Force yourself to do it the first three times and you find yourself able to do it comfortably :D

BullShit, Sweetie.
Maybe that works for you.

I don't like Repelling.
Loads of people do.

It looks like fun.
It is a Singular Experience.

The First Time nearly paralyzed me.
The Second Time was Technically Correct.

The Third Time it still scared me.
I might be able to do it in a pinch.

I don't do it Comfortably.
Maybe, somethings are an Acquired Taste.

If you still don't like it after three honest goes at it.
Find something else to do.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:24 am UTC

I get very nervous, a thundering heart and dry-mouth, every time I top-rope or rappel. I'm not at all "comfortable" doing it. I still love it.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Thesh » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:01 am UTC

Heights are the reason Bob invented ground.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby speising » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:01 am UTC

Thesh wrote:Heights are the reason Bob invented ground.

why? it's the ground that kills you when you hit it, not the air above.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Whizbang » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:15 pm UTC

Today I learned Bob is kind of a dick sometimes.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:18 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:I get very nervous, a thundering heart and dry-mouth, every time I top-rope or rappel. I'm not at all "comfortable" doing it. I still love it.

ok. I'll play belay.
Until, I get bored and wander away.
(tee-hee) You will never know.

Bob? The Bob? Him? (points up)
Yes. I know he seems like a Dick.

Humans have been discussing God's Dickish Ways for a long time.
Most people Spread the Blame around a bit.
Loads of Gods with what may be conflicting Agendas.

That sure makes understanding The Dickish Ways of Gods easier.
Way back over sideways where I came from, often people would say,

"Don't put All your eggs in One Basket."
I think it means, "Spread out Risk."

In Responds I heard a man say, "Put all your eggs in One Basket and Watch That Basket."
I heard him say it many times. I thought he was funny.

MonoTheists put all their Eggs in One Basket.
Then They Watch That Basket.

A Nervous Bunch.
So afraid they will not be able to Defend their God.
Or; Something.

There are all sorts of Religious Splits.
Is God in here? Or; Is God out there?

That should Never be an issue in a Friendship.
If your God is at 9th and Sylvester, then I will behave like that is True.

If your God gets hit by lightening,
I'm a' going' a laugh.

When Katrina hit New Orleans,
It broke the finger off of Jesus.

It's True! I saw it!
Bob can be a Dick.
Bob seems to have a Wicked Sense of Humor, too.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:55 pm UTC

Krypton exploding is the first footage recorded of a mast cell degranulating.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:12 am UTC

Angua wrote:Krypton exploding is the first footage recorded of a mast cell degranulating.

Science photos are amazing.
I can't tell animation from The Real Thing sometimes.
I, sort of, understand the average person's distrust of science.

What is the difference between Kripton stuff and Virus?
To average persons they are The Same.

We talked about viruses.
We treated people with viruses.
We had a vaccine against viruses.

What if there Were No Viruses?
There are viruses. Don't worry.

You and I know, because we have Photos!
I think we have photos. Don't we? Conspiracy??

https://www.google.com/search?q=first+p ... B478%3B450
The first photo of a virus made me wonder about Space Craft.
We expect the space craft to be Large. Maybe they are small.

Edit: Today I relearned:
Hummingbirds are cute little Bastards.

I hummingbird gave me a Dirty Look.
I swear it did. He is such a Dick.

He sits on the feeder and attacks other hummingbirds and me.
Fuck him. He is so cute.

Some people have Badminton Racks for Hummingbirds.
Other people have Butterfly Nets for Hummingbirds.

Spoiler:
I wonder.
Can I catch him and release him?

Would that teach them evasive measures?
I don't want them to know that.


They are cute.
They might be smart.

That one little bird I recognize.
He is a Bastard.
A cute little Bastard.

There is another feeder.
They don't need food.

They like playing King of the Hill.

That is what I learned.
They do it for Fun!
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Quercus » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:41 pm UTC

addams wrote:
I don't like Repelling.
Loads of people do.

It looks like fun.
It is a Singular Experience.

The First Time nearly paralyzed me.
The Second Time was Technically Correct.

The Third Time it still scared me.
I might be able to do it in a pinch.

I don't do it Comfortably.
Maybe, somethings are an Acquired Taste.


The only people that really like rapelling have either never done it in a serious situation, or have never really thought about the risks and consequences of it. I'll do it when I have to, to get to/from a climb, but without a really bomber anchor (at least two perfect looking bolts) it always makes me nervous. It's the whole "single point of failure located up to 60m above me" thing that I don't like. It's one of the most dangerous parts of climbing, most climbers don't like it, and you're entirely sensible to be among them.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Jave D » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:25 pm UTC

TIL that I don't actually get any holiday pay. Not time and a half, not overtime, not even the piddling extra I get on Sundays. It's a Union job, and the Union is not as strong as it once was. If you got in before a certain time under a different contract you do get triple time for holidays, but otherwise nope!

But TIL that minimum wage is going up so as of July I should be getting 70 cents extra per hour! *cries*

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:19 am UTC

Quercus wrote:
addams wrote:
I don't like Repelling.
Loads of people do.

It looks like fun.
It is a Singular Experience.

The First Time nearly paralyzed me.
The Second Time was Technically Correct.

The Third Time it still scared me.
I might be able to do it in a pinch.

I don't do it Comfortably.
Maybe, somethings are an Acquired Taste.


The only people that really like rapelling have either never done it in a serious situation, or have never really thought about the risks and consequences of it. I'll do it when I have to, to get to/from a climb, but without a really bomber anchor (at least two perfect looking bolts) it always makes me nervous. It's the whole "single point of failure located up to 60m above me" thing that I don't like. It's one of the most dangerous parts of climbing, most climbers don't like it, and you're entirely sensible to be among them.

Oh, (Gasps)
You go it Alone?

Without a Belay to tease you?
Heavens; You are brave.

Brave is not the absence of fear.
Brave is doing it anyway.(right?)

The Difference between brave and stupid are in the results.
The Difference is a very, very fine line.

If we die doing that stupid shit, we are considered Stupid.
If we live we are considered brave. (sort of. right?)

Repelling was one of those things.
I thought it was a Grand Idea;
Until I did it.

While I did it, I thought I was Stupid.
Then I did it, Again! That is true, Stupid.

And; Again! "WHY!!" My inner voice Screemed.

Yes. It is such a useful skill to save a lot of dangerous walking.
But; I was repelling and doing the walking. That's Dumb.
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Some of us see The Gutter.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:26 pm UTC

TIL that everyone from Vienna is a wiener.

(And that wiener schnitzel actually has nothing at all to do with hot dogs).
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby speising » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:07 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:TIL that everyone from Vienna is a wiener.

(And that wiener schnitzel actually has nothing at all to do with hot dogs).

Actually, what you call a wiener (the sausage) is called frankfurter in Vienna!

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:08 am UTC

TIL everyone from Frankfurt is also a wiener, by proxy.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Diemo » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:05 am UTC

Huh, TIL frankfurters are called wieners in most of the rest of the world.
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Postby yurell » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:34 am UTC

Here they're called 'Frankfurts', or rarely 'German sausage', provided Wikipedia has linked me to the right 'wiener'.
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Postby eSOANEM » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:43 am UTC

In the UK they'd be "frankfurters" or possibly "hot dog sausage". If someone says "German sausage", I'd think of bratwurst instead. "Wiener" on the other hand makes me think of bart simpson and penises.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Zarq » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:52 am UTC

Diemo wrote:Huh, TIL frankfurters are called wieners in most of the rest of the world.


In Dutch, they're called hotdogs, but the packaging often says frankfurters (and I think I've seen them called Wiener Sausages once).
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Adacore » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:03 pm UTC

As with eSOANEM, as a Brit, 'wiener' to me is basically purely a penis reference. The sausages are 'frankfurters' or 'hot dog sausages', and German sausages are significantly larger and higher quality (both as processed meat products and, I expect, as metaphorical genitalia).

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Diemo » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:09 pm UTC

Diemo wrote:Huh, TIL frankfurters are called wieners in mostsome of the rest of the world.


So in Ireland, a frankfurter is kinda synomonous with a hotdog, and wiener is not used at all.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby mathmannix » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:29 pm UTC

Here in the US, "wiener" (often misspelt "weiner" or even "weener") is almost exclusively used to refer to male genitalia in a schoolyard fashion (haha, she said "weener"), and thus not used anymore for hot dog, except in jokes (haha, he said "weener"). "Hot dog" is used almost all the time, at least in most of the country, although everybody knows what you mean if you say frankfurter. They are often packaged as Frankfurters or Franks, but I don't think I've ever heard someone call them Franks, except as part of a joke involving the semi-common first name Frank. Or the phrase "Frank [a]n[d] beans".

EDIT: oh, it's also humorous to call them "tube steaks". The perception is that this was the way for restaurants to make hot dogs seem more fancy, putting on airs (like how a common hamburger with gravy became "Salisbury steak", allegedly due to anti-German sentiment during WWI) but I don't know if this was ever seriously done, or just as a joke, like how some people pronounce Glade candles "Gla-day" or Target discount stores "Tar-zhay". This is made funnier by those of us with an immature streak, as it is rather obscure nowadays and used almost exclusively as a genitalia joke.

Oh, TIL that Salisbury Steak was not really named to sound "more British", but was named after an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury., and long before WWI. Still, I have heard that story before, and even passed it on as true. I think I read it in one of the "Imponderables" books of word origins, too!
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Postby Magnanimous » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:45 pm UTC

mathmannix wrote:Oh, TIL that Salisbury Steak was not really named to sound "more British", but was named after an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury., and long before WWI. Still, I have heard that story before, and even passed it on as true. I think I read it in one of the "Imponderables" books of word origins, too!
Salisbury steak is one of the reasons that Salisbury State University is now Salisbury University. :)

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Postby Quercus » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:59 pm UTC

addams wrote:
Quercus wrote:
The only people that really like rapelling have either never done it in a serious situation, or have never really thought about the risks and consequences of it. I'll do it when I have to, to get to/from a climb, but without a really bomber anchor (at least two perfect looking bolts) it always makes me nervous. It's the whole "single point of failure located up to 60m above me" thing that I don't like. It's one of the most dangerous parts of climbing, most climbers don't like it, and you're entirely sensible to be among them.

Oh, (Gasps)
You go it Alone?

Without a Belay to tease you?
Heavens; You are brave.

Brave is not the absence of fear.
Brave is doing it anyway.(right?)

The Difference between brave and stupid are in the results.
The Difference is a very, very fine line.

If we die doing that stupid shit, we are considered Stupid.
If we live we are considered brave. (sort of. right?)

Repelling was one of those things.
I thought it was a Grand Idea;
Until I did it.

While I did it, I thought I was Stupid.
Then I did it, Again! That is true, Stupid.

And; Again! "WHY!!" My inner voice Screemed.

Yes. It is such a useful skill to save a lot of dangerous walking.
But; I was repelling and doing the walking. That's Dumb.


Gee, thanks [blushes]. I don't feel particularly brave though - I'm one of the most risk averse climbers I know. There's something in potentially risky activity though, some element of focus, of the knowledge of the immediate consequences of mistakes that I find wonderfully peaceful. I think that's why I don't feel particularly brave - I do these things willingly and because they bring me joy (I think you're possibly braver for doing it even though it really scares you). Give me something that I am genuinely scared of (being trapped in a large crowd of people for example), and I will go to any lengths to avoid it. I don't take part in political protests because the thought of being kettled brings me out in a cold sweat, which is a somewhat cowardly position given that there are causes I believe in strongly enough to protest about.

Back to the climbing/rapelling, here are a couple of quotes from the writer and mountaineer Al Alverez that I think describe what I get out of climbing (and other "risky" sports) very well:

The pleasure of risk is in the control needed to ride it with assurance so that what appears dangerous to the outsider is, to the participant, simply a matter of intelligence, skill, intuition, coordination... in a word, experience. Climbing in particular, is a paradoxically intellectual pastime, but with this difference: you have to think with your body. Every move has to be worked out in terms of playing chess with your body. If I make a mistake the consequences are immediate, obvious, embarrassing, and possibly painful. For a brief period I am directly responsible for my actions. In that beautiful, silent, world of mountains, it seems to me worth a little risk.


To put yourself into a situation where a mistake cannot necessarily be recouped, where the life you lose may be your own, clears the head wonderfully. It puts domestic problems back into proportion and adds an element of seriousness to your drab, routine life. Perhaps this is one reason why climbing has become increasingly hard as society has become increasingly, disproportionately, coddling.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:13 pm UTC

mathmannix wrote:Here in the US, "wiener" (often misspelt "weiner" or even "weener") is almost exclusively used to refer to male genitalia in a schoolyard fashion (haha, she said "weener"), and thus not used anymore for hot dog, except in jokes (haha, he said "weener"). "Hot dog" is used almost all the time, at least in most of the country, although everybody knows what you mean if you say frankfurter. They are often packaged as Frankfurters or Franks, but I don't think I've ever heard someone call them Franks, except as part of a joke involving the semi-common first name Frank. Or the phrase "Frank [a]n[d] beans".

I see them sold as Franks all the time, usually by people trying to make it sound a bit more upscale than "hot dogs". Often with the word "Ballpark" preceding it, as in "Ballpark Franks".

I've also heard people call them "wieners" in casual conversation, though I think it's usually older people who do so, and I always snicker a little inside when I hear it.

For reference I got started on this because I drove past a Der Wienerschnitzel fast-food restaurant and got to wondering what a schnitzel was (since the wiener part was, I thought, obvious; they sell hot dogs, as indicated by the gigantic model hot dog on the roof of their building). Turns out it's a meat dish that Der Wienershnitzel has never sold which has nothing at all to do with hot dogs, and wiener schnitzel is just the Viennese version of that dish. The use of "wiener" to refer to hot dogs apparently comes from "wiener wurst", i.e. Viennese sausage.

And I was of course making a joke on the mocking appellation of "wiener", in the penis sense. "Haha, Viennese people are all wieners." And since wiener = hot dog = frankfurter, people from Frankfurt are also wieners by proxy. I was tempted to make a "must be a lot of dicks in that general German-Austrian region" (because wiener = penis = dick), but thought that might be a little too far.

And all of that got the Schnitzelbank song stuck in my head.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:43 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:
addams wrote:
Quercus wrote:
The only people that really like rapelling have either never done it in a serious situation, or have never really thought about the risks and consequences of it. I'll do it when I have to, to get to/from a climb, but without a really bomber anchor (at least two perfect looking bolts) it always makes me nervous. It's the whole "single point of failure located up to 60m above me" thing that I don't like. It's one of the most dangerous parts of climbing, most climbers don't like it, and you're entirely sensible to be among them.

Oh, (Gasps)
You go it Alone?

Without a Belay to tease you?
Heavens; You are brave.

Brave is not the absence of fear.
Brave is doing it anyway.(right?)

The Difference between brave and stupid are in the results.
The Difference is a very, very fine line.

If we die doing that stupid shit, we are considered Stupid.
If we live we are considered brave. (sort of. right?)

Repelling was one of those things.
I thought it was a Grand Idea;
Until I did it.

While I did it, I thought I was Stupid.
Then I did it, Again! That is true, Stupid.

And; Again! "WHY!!" My inner voice Screemed.

Yes. It is such a useful skill to save a lot of dangerous walking.
But; I was repelling and doing the walking. That's Dumb.


Gee, thanks [blushes]. I don't feel particularly brave though - I'm one of the most risk averse climbers I know. There's something in potentially risky activity though, some element of focus, of the knowledge of the immediate consequences of mistakes that I find wonderfully peaceful. I think that's why I don't feel particularly brave - I do these things willingly and because they bring me joy (I think you're possibly braver for doing it even though it really scares you). Give me something that I am genuinely scared of (being trapped in a large crowd of people for example), and I will go to any lengths to avoid it. I don't take part in political protests because the thought of being kettled brings me out in a cold sweat, which is a somewhat cowardly position given that there are causes I believe in strongly enough to protest about.

Back to the climbing/rapelling, here are a couple of quotes from the writer and mountaineer Al Alverez that I think describe what I get out of climbing (and other "risky" sports) very well:

The pleasure of risk is in the control needed to ride it with assurance so that what appears dangerous to the outsider is, to the participant, simply a matter of intelligence, skill, intuition, coordination... in a word, experience. Climbing in particular, is a paradoxically intellectual pastime, but with this difference: you have to think with your body. Every move has to be worked out in terms of playing chess with your body. If I make a mistake the consequences are immediate, obvious, embarrassing, and possibly painful. For a brief period I am directly responsible for my actions. In that beautiful, silent, world of mountains, it seems to me worth a little risk.


To put yourself into a situation where a mistake cannot necessarily be recouped, where the life you lose may be your own, clears the head wonderfully. It puts domestic problems back into proportion and adds an element of seriousness to your drab, routine life. Perhaps this is one reason why climbing has become increasingly hard as society has become increasingly, disproportionately, coddling.


Risk? Yes.
There is Risk in Climbing.

I climbed for The Fun of It.
It is a Hell of a lot easier going Up than it is going Down.

Did you find that?
I did some stupid shit.

We scaled a rock wall and were stuck for a while.
It was nice to have someone to tell me where to put my feet while coming Down.

In Southern California out in the desert there are canyons that have walls near enough together a person can scale them by putting a foot on each side.
It is easier to go Up one of those than it is to come Down, too. We Jumped. It was a Damn Long Jump, sometimes. Like jumping out of a Swing.

I don't do that anymore.
I am glad you Think about it before you do it.

You have adult supervision.
Your inner adult is taking care of you.

Good on you.
My inner adult was, sort of, stupid.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Carlington » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:32 am UTC

TIL about Dijkstra's Algorithm because I was thinking about how to work out the cheapest possible airfare between two places and then I realised that it was the same as figuring out the shortest path between two places, except instead of distance being the relevant value, money is, so we can just swap them out because really they're both just a kind of cost.
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