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The Statue of Liberty

Postby Fat Tony » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:04 am UTC

Is amazing. I just spent the last hour just staring at pictures of it. It's now one of my major life's goals to see it and go inside it. I know it's banned now, but that's even more motivation to do something great enough to be allowed in.
Have any of you ever been inside it?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Malsies » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:05 am UTC

You can't go inside it now? I didn't know that. Lame-osity.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Fat Tony » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:07 am UTC

No one's been allowed in since 9/11.
On a side note, that day needs a freaking name. How long do people honestly plan on referring to it as September 11th?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Malsies » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:09 am UTC

I'd heard rumors of it being called Patriot's Day. Which doesn't seem to make sense to me. Patriot's Day...the day America got pwned?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Fat Tony » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:11 am UTC

I decided it should be called Patriot's Day six years ago. It seems twisted, but honestly, that's what it is: the day when people act like they actually care about their country.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Alpha Omicron » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:14 am UTC

Fat Tony wrote:No one's been allowed in since 9/11.
On a side note, that day needs a freaking name. How long do people honestly plan on referring to it as September 11th?

How about Fearmas?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Bakemaster » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:32 am UTC

Too bad Patriot's Day is already taken.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby d3adf001 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:28 am UTC

Fat Tony wrote:it's banned now


ill add that to the list of things 9/11 changed which include:
taking my rights away and
making 9/11 jokes

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby bbctol » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:25 am UTC

Holy shit, it's been banned? I went inside at five, and looked out from the top. Beautiful view. One of the few things I remember at age five.

The Statue of Liberty is pretty cool.

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Sissi » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:46 am UTC

They tried renaming French fries into freedom fries... And now they've gone and banned touring of the Statue of Liberty, which was a present from the French?… I do believe I smell a conspiracy being roasted.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Julie » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:52 am UTC

Wait, it's banned?

I *could have* gone inside a year ago, with my 4-H club, but I didn't. It's a club where we raise guide dogs for the blind, and I volunteered to stay outside and hold a few of the dogs. Maybe they decided that a bunch of teenagers with puppies weren't too much of a threat... or maybe I'm confused and they only toured the bottom story?

I wonder what would happen if the statue *did* get blown up/torn down due to a storm/otherwise destroyed beyond repair. Would America build a new one?

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby TheTankengine » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:39 am UTC

What if its head got thrown by a giant fucking-monster?!
Would they drop an A-bomb on its ass?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby apricity » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:19 pm UTC

I went in it when I was like 10. I've gone to school in NYC for 3 years now and never knew it was closed though.

I like to take the Staten Island Ferry, which is free and passes close to the statue, whenever I have people visiting me. It's the best free thing to do in the city.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Spoffin » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:18 pm UTC

Alpha Omicron wrote:
Fat Tony wrote:No one's been allowed in since 9/11.
On a side note, that day needs a freaking name. How long do people honestly plan on referring to it as September 11th?

How about Fearmas?

That's an awesome name!

The icon could be Osama Bin Laden in a Santa suit (hat, or turban?). And instead of presents, he gives out stinger missiles. But you have to catch them...

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Kineticka » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:33 pm UTC

From what I understand there's been talks about reopening it for a while, but they haven't actually gone anywhere. :( I'll have to brush up on that.

Any kid who's been to school or summer camp in New York has been in the Statue of Liberty many, many times. A few of my friends and I were in it a month or so before the attacks. It's pretty amazing.

I also second the Staten Island Ferry declaration of awesome. Before the attacks when you were allowed to stay on the ferry while it was docked, every Fourth of July we'd ride the boat back and forth to watch the fireworks shows over Manhattan and the statue. Now, they don't run the ferry during the fireworks show, and you can't just stand outside to wait for the return trip, you have to get off the ferry and run around the damn terminal to get back on.

Fun fact that I learned last week from playing Trivial Pursuit: The Statue of Liberty wears size 879 sandals. o_o

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby MotorToad » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:41 pm UTC

TheTankengine wrote:What if its head got thrown by a giant fucking-monster?!
Would they drop an A-bomb on its ass?

I think the giant flying fucking-monster would stop the A-bomb with his noodley appendage.

I can't believe they don't see the irony in a terrorist attack taking away your ability to tour the Statue of Liberty. There's an old saying bouncing around in the back of my head, I can't quite recall it, about there not being a point in having something when you're so scared to lose it that you can't use it.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby TheTankengine » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:44 pm UTC

I'm not sure of that specific quote, but I really like this one:
"Americans used to roar like lions for liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security."
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Fat Tony » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:39 pm UTC

Julie wrote:I wonder what would happen if the statue *did* get blown up/torn down due to a storm/otherwise destroyed beyond repair. Would America build a new one?

In 1926, I think the year was, the Germans set off a bomb not too far away that did a lot of damage to it. They repaired it.
As for building a whole new one? I doubt they would. They'd try to preserve the ruins as much as they could, but they wouldn't make another one, especially not on the original site.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby wst » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:39 pm UTC

Fat Tony wrote:
Julie wrote:I wonder what would happen if the statue *did* get blown up/torn down due to a storm/otherwise destroyed beyond repair. Would America build a new one?

In 1926, I think the year was, the Germans set off a bomb not too far away that did a lot of damage to it.


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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby mosc » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:24 pm UTC

I've been in it yeah. Sucks they closed it. Also sucks they closed the mints! The philly mint was an amazing tour and you could actually watch the coins being made. Coins are amazing.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby sunami » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:47 pm UTC

TheTankengine wrote:What if its head got thrown by a giant fucking-monsterblown up by a French terrorist group?!

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Hoshi no Kabii » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:57 pm UTC

You can go inside the pedestal and look at the stairs you're not allowed to walk on, which is an incredibly interesting feeling.

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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:15 am UTC

TheTankengine wrote:I'm not sure of that specific quote, but I really like this one:
"Americans used to roar like lions for liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security."
-Norman Vincent Peale


"Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither and will lose both."
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Zohar » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:31 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:"Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither and will lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin


I always thought that quote was a bit... wrong. I don't agree with it in the sense Franklin (probably) meant it, but it's not true in general, either. People always sacrifice freedom in the face of social norms. And society is huge source of security.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:59 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:"Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither and will lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin


I always thought that quote was a bit... wrong. I don't agree with it in the sense Franklin (probably) meant it, but it's not true in general, either. People always sacrifice freedom in the face of social norms. And society is huge source of security.


Well, I'm with John Locke here in the sense that society is a method by which we protect our rights--in a state of nature you have no rights because you have no means to enforce them.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby xooll » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:55 pm UTC

I went there when I was about twelve. It was a 2-hour line, on a steep staircase, for a 30-second look out the window before you were hurried back down. Not worth it.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Spoffin » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:53 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:
Zohar wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:"Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither and will lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin


I always thought that quote was a bit... wrong. I don't agree with it in the sense Franklin (probably) meant it, but it's not true in general, either. People always sacrifice freedom in the face of social norms. And society is huge source of security.


Well, I'm with John Locke here in the sense that society is a method by which we protect our rights--in a state of nature you have no rights because you have no means to enforce them.

Rights aren't the same as liberties though. You might have no rights in the state of nature, but you're free of restraints.
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby wing » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:22 am UTC

Wait. I seem to recall that it was closed for refurbishment (among other things the installation of a sprinkler system?) *NOT* because of terrorism (indeed I seem to recall the closing predates 9/11/01 by at least several months) - and I think it opened back up circa 2005?
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby Spoffin » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:26 am UTC

wing wrote:Wait. I seem to recall that it was closed for refurbishment (among other things the installation of a sprinkler system?) *NOT* because of terrorism (indeed I seem to recall the closing predates 9/11/01 by at least several months) - and I think it opened back up circa 2005?
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Edit: Closed on September 11th 2001
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Re: The Statue of Liberty

Postby the_bandersnatch » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:19 pm UTC

When my family first moved to America, we used to live in the Statue of Liberty's head. We had to move out once we filled the entire head with garbage.
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