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Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:32 am UTC
by somitomi
Apparently Youtube decided they aren't similar enough to every other social media yet and so "posts" are now a thing and a small selection vaguely related to videos I've watched shows up on my start page every once in a while. I wouldn't mind, but today it greeted me with a Steven Universe spoiler, so fuck you too(b) posts.
How do I turn it off?

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:09 pm UTC
by Deva
Thursday's forecast: High of 6° Fahrenheit (-14.4 Celsius). Low of -4° Fahrenheit (-20 Celsius). 90% chance of snow.
Sunday's forecast: High of 42° Fahrenheit (5.6 Celsius). Low of 34° Fahrenheit (1.1 Celsius). 60% chance of rain.

Crammed all of winter into one week.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:37 pm UTC
by PAstrychef
Today it’s once again -18. Saturday is forecast to be over 40.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:38 pm UTC
by Flumble
PAstrychef wrote:Today it’s once again -18. Saturday is forecast to be over 40.

Wow, are you in the middle of a desert? I've read that they can have up to a 50 degree* difference between night and day. :mrgreen:

*inb4 it's actually a 180° difference

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:35 am UTC
by addams
oh, Deva and PAstrychef;
You two and your neighbors are on my mind.
Please stay safe, until the weather changes.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:53 am UTC
by Sableagle
Dehumidifiers have an air intake one side and an outflow the other.
They need clear space all around them.
If I have a power socket opposite the bottom of the staircase, I can't put a dehumidifier right there to blow warm, dry air up the staircase. I'd have to trail the cable across the floor and put the dehumidifier on the bottom step to give it enough room around the air intake, according to the manual.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the air intake on the front, at least as an option, so the thing can be put against a wall?

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:30 pm UTC
by ucim
Sableagle wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to have the air intake on the front, at least as an option, so the thing can be put against a wall?
A lot of the air that was intook would be coming right from the air that was outflowed, and the efficiency would suboptimalize. However, depending on your situation (and if you had the room), a bit of clever ducting might accomplish your goal, especially if you put it sideways.

Jose

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:50 am UTC
by Flumble
I couldn't find a good translation of "Er is er een jarig" in English, so here's my (10-minute) attempt:

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it is someone's birthday, huzzah, huzzah
it's pretty much clear that it's you
we're all very glad 'bout your birthday, hah hah
and that's why we're singing for you, you you you

may (they) live long, huzzah, huzzah
may (they) live lo-ong, huzzah, huzzah
may (they) live long, huzzah, huzzah

Now we don't have to sing "Happy Birthday" on every occasion when there's non-dutch around! :D

(We could of course sing "For he's a jolly good fellow", but who other than Brits know that song at all?)

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:40 am UTC
by flicky1991
Flumble wrote:(We could of course sing "For he's a jolly good fellow", but who other than Brits know that song at all?)
I've definitely heard that song more on American TV shows than I have in Britain IRL.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:32 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Deva wrote:Thursday's forecast: High of 6° Fahrenheit (-14.4 Celsius). Low of -4° Fahrenheit (-20 Celsius). 90% chance of snow.
Sunday's forecast: High of 42° Fahrenheit (5.6 Celsius). Low of 34° Fahrenheit (1.1 Celsius). 60% chance of rain.

Crammed all of winter into one week.

Missouri had a tornado warning *inside* a winter weather advisory yesterday.

Image

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:59 pm UTC
by somitomi
When and why did computers stop having that neat outlet on the PSU for the monitor? Almost every computer had it around the millenium, probably because it frees up a socket, so there must be some drawback that resulted in its disappearance but I'm not seeing it.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:19 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
I'd forgotten they used to do that. My only guess would be that people's power needs started growing enough that running a monitor as well became so much of a power drain that the PSU couldn't run your fancy video card, sound card, AND CRT monitor at the same time while keeping the EnergyStar standards.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:53 pm UTC
by somitomi
SecondTalon wrote:I'd forgotten they used to do that. My only guess would be that people's power needs started growing enough that running a monitor as well became so much of a power drain that the PSU couldn't run your fancy video card, sound card, AND CRT monitor at the same time while keeping the EnergyStar standards.

I think those outlets were just wired straight to mains power, as if the PSU had a power strip built into it. Maybe power cables aren't rated to handle the combined load of a PSU and a display although I'd generally expect electronics to become more efficient over time. But then I'd also expect software to become more efficient over time, but in reality computers improve at such a pace that reducing system requirements is at the very end of the priority list far below "dinosaur minigame".

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:32 pm UTC
by phlip
On the other hand, DPMS got invented so that monitors could turn themselves off from a signal from the graphics card, so the convenience of having the PSU cutting power to the monitor when the computer is off wasn't that big a deal any more...

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:48 pm UTC
by Quercus
somitomi wrote:When and why did computers stop having that neat outlet on the PSU for the monitor? Almost every computer had it around the millenium, probably because it frees up a socket, so there must be some drawback that resulted in its disappearance but I'm not seeing it.

TIL that that was a thing - it never happened in the UK AFAIK, because our sockets are just too damn big to fit into the back of a PSU

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:16 am UTC
by phlip
Quercus wrote:
TIL that that was a thing - it never happened in the UK AFAIK, because our sockets are just too damn big to fit into the back of a PSU

Well, not a full wall socket, but a reversed C13 connector: this is one of the few pictures I was able to find.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:33 am UTC
by Quercus
phlip wrote:
Quercus wrote:
TIL that that was a thing - it never happened in the UK AFAIK, because our sockets are just too damn big to fit into the back of a PSU

Well, not a full wall socket, but a reversed C13 connector: this is one of the few pictures I was able to find.

Ohhh! That socket is output (of course it is, the other way round would be unsafe). I always just brushed that one aside as an alternate input of some kind.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:39 pm UTC
by somitomi
phlip wrote:On the other hand, DPMS got invented so that monitors could turn themselves off from a signal from the graphics card, so the convenience of having the PSU cutting power to the monitor when the computer is off wasn't that big a deal any more...

Huh, I didn't know those sockets were switched, but that would explain their disappearance

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:19 pm UTC
by Giant Speck
You know you're a grown-up when you get really excited about buying a new mattress.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:43 pm UTC
by poxic
Woohoo, less back pain!

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:07 pm UTC
by PAstrychef
Saw the film The Wife yesterday. Overall, quite good. At the beginning of the film the author gets a call telling him he’s won the Nobel prize in literature.
That would be a great job to have-telling folks they’ve won the Nobel prize, or a McArthur genius grant or some such.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:14 pm UTC
by Zohar
I saw Can You Ever Forgive Me? on a plane ride and it was very good. Great acting, bitter-sweet story, just feels very real. Well I guess it's based on an autobiography so...

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:06 am UTC
by Sableagle
I saw Wind River on a plane ride, and it was shite.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:37 pm UTC
by Flumble
On the topic of films I haven't seen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5174640/

I'm quite sure this is the most anticipated film of 2115 yet.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:43 pm UTC
by poxic
wat



On the one hand, this is a neat concept. On the other hand, what the kinda fuck? Who in 2115 is going to know or care about the people involved, or understand the cultural context of a 100 year old movie? We have trouble with things made in the '30s and that was ... eh, okay, damn near 100 years ago, but still.

Also, what format is it stored in and how certain are we that it will be playable in 100 years?

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:13 am UTC
by Flumble
Unlike the early 20th century, we have so much unfiltered content from the early 21st century that I bet in 96 years historians can paint you a pretty good picture experience of our time and culture. Also it's the twisted perspective of Malkovich and Rodriguez that you have to consider even more than this period.
But one thing is certain: the extremely outdated film material (and editing? would it be edited or raw footage? is it actually filmed or is it an empty time capsule?) is going to make it an instant cult classic.

poxic wrote:how certain are we that it will be playable in 100 years?

I guess we will have to

w a i t   f o r   i t

(as well as our life extension pills)

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:47 am UTC
by DavidSh
Hard to say whether it will physically survive a century in storage. We have a decent idea of how well various film stock survives the decades, since some films from 1919 have survived, and some have probably decomposed or caught fire. However, it looks like they are shooting this digitally, and might not be motivated to actually make a print. Digital could be able to physically survive, if they either use an archival storage medium, or arrange for sufficient copying with error correction, but you have a risk of letting the format go obsolete. Even if no one is projecting 35mm or 70mm motion picture film in theatres, I'd bet that we'll be able to scan it.

I would think that there will be people who are interested by the films of the 2010s, just like there there are fans of silent movies today.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:53 am UTC
by poxic
I'm also annoyed by the foreknowledge that curiosity won't be satisfied. Dammit.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:01 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Giant Speck wrote:You know you're a grown-up when you get really excited about buying a new mattress.

Oh my God, guys. This mattress is almost too comfortable.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:09 am UTC
by New User
Be careful to avoid the comfort event horizon.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:34 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Yeah, I hear it leads to the slumber singularity.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:28 am UTC
by Sableagle
poxic wrote:Also, what format is it stored in and how certain are we that it will be playable in 100 years?


When 800 years old Shuya Yang reaches, look that good she will not.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:18 pm UTC
by Zohar
Flumble wrote:Unlike the early 20th century, we have so much unfiltered content from the early 21st century that I bet in 96 years historians can paint you a pretty good picture experience of our time and culture.

As others have mentioned - format and data storage is probably the biggest concern here. We are producing more original content than ever in human history, but we use the most degradable storage mediums, too.

I need some cat memes carved into stone tablets.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:18 pm UTC
by Angua
Our cat managed to bring in a live half-grown bunny this morning through her friend Catherine flap.

Not a mark on it. Very impressive.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:39 pm UTC
by pogrmman
This winter has been weird as hell (both back home and at school). At home, we had our first freeze in mid-November — which was actually before the 10% first frost date (so less than 10% of years since the late 1800s have had freezes that early). Then, we had a very mild winter — it’s not like it was warm: temperatures were almost exactly average. That’s super unusual — “average” temperatures don’t mean all that much in the winter: there’s normally huge swings in both directions as we get cold front after cold front. But this year, we didn’t really get any of the roller coaster we normally do. We only had like 6 freezes from December theough February, when we average like 15. None were colder than 30°F (normally the coldest is somewhere in the 20-25°F range). Now, we’re suppsed to have the coldest night of the year — around 25°F — in early March — right at our normal 20% last frost date (so only 20% of years have had any freezes later than this). In a normal year the first night colder than 28° comes before December 21st, and the last one comes before February 4th. We haven’t had any freezes that cold all winter until (likely) tonight. Everything is already blooming for spring, which isn’t at all abnormal, but it’s all gonna be hurt by the freeze tonight. Freezes this cold this late are super unusual. I don’t remember any. Heck, any freezes this late are somewhat unusual!

At school, it’s been weird for another reason. December was dry and warm, but January through now have been brutal. This has been one of the snowiest winters on record, the city is out of salt and has entirely filled up most of the snow disposal areas. We’ve been getting snow like at least once a week and it doesn’t melt. We’re here in March sitting at 5°F — which is probably going to be the high today. Normal highs for today are about 40°F! Unlike back home, it’s been terribly cold with weather like the coldest week or two of winter for most of January, February, and now March.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:43 pm UTC
by Sableagle
Meanwhile in Nepal they had monsoon conditions through February, when the monsoon's supposed to be June, July, August into maybe September, and had to close Annapurna Base Camp to visitors because of the hgue snow build-up and high avalanche risk ... in the dry season.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:20 am UTC
by SecondTalon
Zohar wrote:
Flumble wrote:Unlike the early 20th century, we have so much unfiltered content from the early 21st century that I bet in 96 years historians can paint you a pretty good picture experience of our time and culture.

As others have mentioned - format and data storage is probably the biggest concern here. We are producing more original content than ever in human history, but we use the most degradable storage mediums, too.

I need some cat memes carved into stone tablets.

I was handed 4 3.5 inch floppy disks today. Apparently they had been stored in a basement. I was able to get files off three of them. Near as I can tell, they were last touched in 2002.

I'm astounded I had a 75% success rate. I was fully expecting 100% failure.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:49 am UTC
by addams
pogrmman wrote:This winter has been weird as hell (both back home and at school). At home, we had our first freeze in mid-November — which was actually before the 10% first frost date (so less than 10% of years since the late 1800s have had freezes that early). Then, we had a very mild winter — it’s not like it was warm: temperatures were almost exactly average. That’s super unusual — “average” temperatures don’t mean all that much in the winter: there’s normally huge swings in both directions as we get cold front after cold front. But this year, we didn’t really get any of the roller coaster we normally do. We only had like 6 freezes from December theough February, when we average like 15. None were colder than 30°F (normally the coldest is somewhere in the 20-25°F range). Now, we’re suppsed to have the coldest night of the year — around 25°F — in early March — right at our normal 20% last frost date (so only 20% of years have had any freezes later than this). In a normal year the first night colder than 28° comes before December 21st, and the last one comes before February 4th. We haven’t had any freezes that cold all winter until (likely) tonight. Everything is already blooming for spring, which isn’t at all abnormal, but it’s all gonna be hurt by the freeze tonight. Freezes this cold this late are super unusual. I don’t remember any. Heck, any freezes this late are somewhat unusual!

At school, it’s been weird for another reason. December was dry and warm, but January through now have been brutal. This has been one of the snowiest winters on record, the city is out of salt and has entirely filled up most of the snow disposal areas. We’ve been getting snow like at least once a week and it doesn’t melt. We’re here in March sitting at 5°F — which is probably going to be the high today. Normal highs for today are about 40°F! Unlike back home, it’s been terribly cold with weather like the coldest week or two of winter for most of January, February, and now March.
Yep. Yep.
Very interesting.

I was pondering a similar thought.
It's like someone turned the calendar.

The Storms used to start in November.
The last few years they don't get going until February.

Yes.
The Highs are higher and the Lows break shit.

The only explanation that seems to make sense is a weak and loopy jet stream.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:04 pm UTC
by Sableagle
addams wrote:... a weak and loopy jet stream.
Hey, blame the people who voted for him.

Re: Thoughts for ships

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:08 am UTC
by pogrmman
New World foods are the best. Squash, potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, beans, peppers, tomatoes, and more! Not to mention other tasty stuff like chocolate, vanilla, papaya, passionfruit, guava, pineapple, avocado, pecans, and sunflower seeds. Although there’s not many domestic food animals from the New World, turkey is good and Muscovy duck is fantastic. Eating a purely Old World diet would be boring and tiring. Heck, now that I think about it, most of my non-meat (and non-leaf) food consumption is stuff from the New World!