I Am Raven wrote:Saying Afrikaans is basically Dutch, but a screwed up version of it? 'Tis.
No, it's in fact it's own language which is derived from it AND IS IN FACT IN SOME WAYS BETTER THAN DUTCH AS IT HAS KEPT THE USAGE OF OLDER WORDS WHICH HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OVER THE YEARS
. It's also not screwed up as it is correct according to it's own grammar, spelling, and general language-based rules.
I Am Raven wrote: I laugh 'n' twitch. Coz it's really agonizing to hear one's own language being raped like that, right in front of you, but it also sounds really weird. So that explains the laughing 'n' twitching.
No, y'see, nothing is like rape besides rape. Because rape is a unique, horrifying experience which should never
be taken lightly, especially here where there are actual victims. So no, it's not like that. At all.
I Am Raven wrote:And don't give me the "It's its own language, not just screwed up Dutch." bull, because sure, that's what it is.
It. Is. Not. Screwed. Up. Dutch.
And if it is? Then Dutch is the bastard brother of East Frisian Low Saxon.
I Am Raven wrote:But believe me: everybody I know makes jokes about Afrikaans all the friggin' time. And rightfully so. Do you know how they say "egg"? Li'l shitholefruit. I kid you not. "Poepholvruchie" (try translating "poepholvruchtje"). I means seriously? What the cock is that shit!
Everybody else being a prick doesn't give you the right to be one. For example, if every person in your country were to unanimously agree that burning down hospitals while bored is okay, would you?
Also, I do believe it is Afrikaans. And no, no it is not ridiculous. It is a foreign language's version of a word, so it's not funny.
I Am Raven wrote:But alright alright, I guess there is a difference between the two languages, and a pretty big one too (like pronunciation and certain words as such). But I just can't get over it, sorry.
But you just said the exact opposite! Apologising after being a tool doesn't make it okay!
I Am Raven wrote:Oh man, when I was saying rape, I didn't mean actual rape.
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.
Alright, I've removed what you seem to think "real" rape is. Now which of the other two is accurate? Neither, that's which. Except for possibly number 3), but that's stretching the definition beyond it's intended usage and you know it.
I Am Raven wrote:I admit that it's condescending as hell to say stuff like that. And looking back, I'm sorry I did, because it wasn't fair. And I realise it's not an excuse to laugh when other people are laughing (although that is not what I meant: I meant to say that it's not such a bad thing for me to feel that way if others are doing it too. And that actually IS true [to some extent], seeing as our whole perception of "normal" is made up from what the mass is doing)
Numbered by sentence.
1) Then why did you say it?
2) At least you've said it, I suppose.
3) Actually, that doesn't make it okay. When the Aztecs performed sacrificial murders for their Sun God, their nation supporting it didn't make it okay. Peer pressure doesn't make something right.
I Am Raven wrote:1) Dutch and Afrikaans are almost the same language, but from my point of view I still think Afrikaans sounds weird, and screwed up. Just like Frisian sounds messy if your mother's tongue is Dutch.
2) I am sorry if I, in any way, insulted someone.
3) I am sorry I mentioned rape. Clearly when using this word I have to be careful to construct my sentences in such a fashion that it remains comprehensible.
1)M'kay, once again, at least you've said it. And yeah, I'll admit that while it does, it doesn't give you the right to mock someone else's language.
2) M'kay, see above.
3) Or just don't use it for metaphors or symiles at all except for when referring to either the crime or one of the other two definitions.
I Am Raven wrote:And please, try to realise you have no idea what's it like hearing a language very similar to yours, but where things are a liiiiitle bit different. There really is no English equivalent for this phenomena, but please trust me when I say almost every native Dutch speaker thinks Afrikaans is a bit funny.
American English != British English
I Am Raven wrote:Good night to all of you, and I hope you will not think less of me because of this little... whatever it is. Clusterfuck, I think.
LTB'd. Yeah, I'd say that's accurate. And too late.