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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:31 pm UTC

I had another Random Thought.

Every animal gets moody.
Every animal has some control over their moods.

Have you ever watched Bull Elk?

Don't watch Goats.
It's a different animal.

Maybe, Mountain Goats don't have as much choice as Elk do.

Do you ever wonder?
Is it easier for some people to control their Temper than for other people.

Have you ever seen an Adult work themselves into a Temper Fit?

I did yesterday.
He said he was praying or something.

He had an Audience.
Yuck.

He was the, "We are Gathered Here, today," guy.

The Gettysburg was a "We are gathered here, today."
So was, "We are gathered here, today, to bury Cesar, not praise him."
Spoiler:
Sometimes they kill Heretics and Witches.
At the, "We are gathered here today."

Sometime they Gather and Wish they could.

Maybe, I'm just uncomfortable with that Southern Baptist Style.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby bachaddict » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:39 pm UTC

Was that at the Right to Life thing?
I'd like to see one sometime.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:19 am UTC

bachaddict wrote:Was that at the Right to Life thing?
I'd like to see one sometime.

Yep.
There is not much to see.

Inside a spoiler, because I go On and On.

Spoiler:
Have you ever done any reading about Mob Psychology?
The participants in a Right to Life Rally are self selected.

These people can be led from a Pro-Life position to Murder of full grown adult humans.
It's like leading people on psychological stepping stones.

I have stood and watched Orwell's Two Minute Hate take place.
Orwell did not make it up out of whole cloth.
Orwell had seen it with his own eyes, too.

Think, Advertisement Campaigns wilth the lives of innocent goo on the line.
Those Southern Baptists can get very passionate about the perversions of Medicine.

Until that Jerk gets an 'ouchie'.
Then, he wants The Best money can buy.

What a surprising Lobby.
They will work and vote for an AssHole that kills Adults,
As long as he promises to save Goo.

I dare Not say Goo to those people.

That's not Goo to them.
That's The Golden Future of our nation.

They see the Goo as having so much more promise than the shit it was made from.
I'm not really as grumpy as I might seem.

I don't care how stupid or ugly a person is.
If they want to make, hold, love and care for a child,
They should get all the support we can give them.

But...Shaming women, threatening women, and Goo Worship is too far, for me.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby bachaddict » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:21 am UTC

In a spoiler because all this is a sensitive subject :)
Spoiler:
About 90% of the people I know are pro-life. That includes me.
I agree that shaming or threatening women is too far.

Thing is, by the time it's killed, the goo is very much a baby.
And if that baby was a human being with rights, it was murdered.
Fleeting thought: I don't know what was wrong with me today. My head felt like it does when I have a headache, but it didn't hurt. I was also unusually clumsy and had difficulty thinking straight.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:54 am UTC

Yep. Difficult territory.
Spoiler:
I want to find common ground with some of those people, because I like them.
We will say the darnedst things to one another.

I had not intended to attend.
I must have had something to say.

I did not want to speak to the group.
I wanted to speak to one person.

What I said to her was,
"You are not taking care of the ones you have.
And; You Want More??"


I have spent quiet quality time with mostly men that tell me they wish they had never been born.
I have discussed the emotional and physical suffering they have endured with them.

We are far across a chasm from one another, You and I.

Maybe I can hear you, if you Yell.
Spoiler:
(That's sort of a joke. Did ya 'get' it?)
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby Seven » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:16 am UTC

bachaddict wrote:Fleeting thought: I don't know what was wrong with me today. My head felt like it does when I have a headache, but it didn't hurt. I was also unusually clumsy and had difficulty thinking straight.
I get that way sometimes when the weather changes. Like a migraine without the pain (but with other physical symptoms). That IS a thing: Ocular migraines have all the visual auras, with no pain. And for me, fogginess/clumsiness, fatigue & paleness go along with weather-related headaches (which vary in severity).

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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby bachaddict » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:19 am UTC

I think I get it :)
Spoiler:
Have you met people who were close to being aborted?
Were they thankful or resentful about the outcome?
Questions to think about. I don't need an answer.
----
I think the matter with me was my ears.
They feel funny, and my balance was subpar.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby Quercus » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:32 am UTC

bachaddict wrote:I think I get it :)
Spoiler:
Have you met people who were close to being aborted?
Were they thankful or resentful about the outcome?
Questions to think about. I don't need an answer.
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I think the matter with me was my ears.
They feel funny, and my balance was subpar.


I know you said you don't need an answer, but here's my thoughts on your questions, feel free to read or not as you prefer.
Spoiler:
It all depends (of course) on when person-hood happens. If you believe that it happens before the hypothetical abortion, then your questions are meaningful and it's indeed hard to believe that the majority of people wouldn't be thankful that they weren't aborted.

If you believe that person-hood wouldn't happen till after the hypothetical abortion, then your questions are not meaningful, because there are no "people who were close to being aborted", because what was close to being aborted wasn't a person.

The two views are pretty irreconcilable, because they depend on philosophical viewpoints rather than empirical evidence.

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I get something similar with my ears sometimes, but milder than yours seems to be, still, it's quite unpleasant and I hope you feel better soon.

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Postby tms » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:50 pm UTC

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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:53 pm UTC

bachaddict wrote:
Spoiler:
Thing is, by the time it's killed, the goo is very much a baby.
That's pretty much the fundamental bit people disagree about.

But we have giant threads devoted to that subject, many of which have bits from Mods telling people to calm down and so on. I don't really enjoy reading those, mostly because it's rarely people actually reading the arguments and seeing it from the other perspective (while respectfully disagreeing) and mostly people just yelling at each other even louder because that's clearly why their logic didn't sink in.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:53 am UTC

Quercus wrote:
bachaddict wrote:I think I get it :)
Spoiler:
Have you met people who were close to being aborted?
Were they thankful or resentful about the outcome?
Questions to think about. I don't need an answer.
----
I think the matter with me was my ears.
They feel funny, and my balance was subpar.


I know you said you don't need an answer, but here's my thoughts on your questions, feel free to read or not as you prefer.
Spoiler:
It all depends (of course) on when person-hood happens. If you believe that it happens before the hypothetical abortion, then your questions are meaningful and it's indeed hard to believe that the majority of people wouldn't be thankful that they weren't aborted.

If you believe that person-hood wouldn't happen till after the hypothetical abortion, then your questions are not meaningful, because there are no "people who were close to being aborted", because what was close to being aborted wasn't a person.

The two views are pretty irreconcilable, because they depend on philosophical viewpoints rather than empirical evidence.

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I get something similar with my ears sometimes, but milder than yours seems to be, still, it's quite unpleasant and I hope you feel better soon.

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Spoiler:
well...There is this strange moment when we think about it, together.
Usually, we talk about the person within and its well being.

Is the Soul or Personality with the body before The Quickening?
Maybe.

Often, I think of us in our bodies like us in our cars.
We have the car we do for a complex set of reasons.
We wake up in this body for a complex set of reasons.

When we are in our vessel we are a part of it and its well being is tied to our well being.

We often love our cars.
We often outlive our cars.

Sometimes, we almost get a car, then we have to wait a bit more;
For one reason or the other.

This may have been what the argument was about.
We are Not physical beings having a spiritual experience.
We are spiritual beings having a physical experience.


Many persons think of our lives as Spiritual Adventures. Not the only adventure we will ever have.
Some people seem to think we are limited to our one and only one chance To Live at conception.

Maybe, that is true.
I don't think so.

Even in this intellectually advanced time,
We don't know some stuff.

It is ok to not know.
It ok to allow mysteries to exist.

I signed on to working toward a world where every human being and most animals were wanted and treated with loving kindness.
And; I struggled to reconcile that with my carnivorous ways. (It can be done. Animals are treated well and killed quickly.)


oops. I got all ranty.
opps. It's like gas.
Spoiler:
I can tell you without a doubt, I do not want to be born as a helpless child into a poor American Home.
Not today! No Way! Meth using GrandParents, retarded, self absorbed parents and no Social Safety Net.

Thank you, but no thank you.
Do not stop the abortion that would pardon me from that Hell.

I'll take my chances with Eternity.
Eternity might be nice, if we were.

This stuff was so much easier when we only had one patient, until after The Quickening.
Of course, we knew even less and we lost a few.

I promise ST;
I'll not type one more word about it outside a dedicated Thread.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby Drumheller769 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:41 pm UTC

But don't you know that if you type in all caps people can hear your post from their speakers?
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Postby Deva » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:44 pm UTC

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Ranks highly among adorable ladles. Modified relatively little.
Changes its form depending on the observer.

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Postby Angua » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:46 pm UTC

That's soooo cute!!!
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby FierceContinent » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:13 pm UTC

Deva wrote:
Nessie Ladle.jpg

Ranks highly among adorable ladles. Modified relatively little.

I prefer this one. :) It's a lot easier to find.
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Postby Magnanimous » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:59 pm UTC

What's in that pot? Are they making fondue?

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Postby Krealr » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:38 pm UTC

Magnanimous wrote:What's in that pot? Are they making fondue?


Plesiosaur urine.

It's been in that pot a long time...

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Postby Deva » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:05 am UTC

Guesses cheese soup.
Changes its form depending on the observer.

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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:03 am UTC

"No one will ever take Cheese's Place."

It's an internet meme.
I'm not sure what it means.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Postby ucim » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:27 am UTC

addams wrote:"No one will ever take Cheese's Place."
It's an internet meme.
I'm not sure what it means.
Funny you should mention that. The One True Thread has you covered.

Just recently I asked about this cheese thing, and a number of OTTers managed to trace its origins pretty well. Start here.

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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:47 am UTC

ucim wrote:
addams wrote:"No one will ever take Cheese's Place."
It's an internet meme.
I'm not sure what it means.
Funny you should mention that. The One True Thread has you covered.

Just recently I asked about this cheese thing, and a number of OTTers managed to trace its origins pretty well. Start here.

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Yes.
I read that.

I thought, "ok."
I had read that quote on The Daily Show Forum, before I read it here.

The year 2008 was before I had any more than an e-mail address.
That level of interaction with the internet would have seemed very strange to me.

Did that quote originate with xkcd?
Or; Does every forum have a legacy that leads back to that quote?

It's ok with me, either way.
It belongs to the Whole Nutty Family of Internet Posters, now.

A common and meaningless inside joke.
Even without meaning it seems to be a belonging that unites us.

So, funny.
Another tie that binds the Family of Man.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby phlip » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 am UTC

ucim wrote:
addams wrote:"No one will ever take Cheese's Place."
It's an internet meme.
I'm not sure what it means.
Funny you should mention that. The One True Thread has you covered.

Just recently I asked about this cheese thing, and a number of OTTers managed to trace its origins pretty well. Start here.

Jose

Hmm... not quite.
ucim wrote:I also found that although Cheese's signature claims that hermaj wrote it, the original post, later quoted by Cheese, is by Gojoe.

The post being quoted is, actually, this one. (The post by Gojoe linked above is in fact just referring to this, which was already in Cheese's sig at this point.)

The backstory is that, way back in the day, when the ability to add custom titles to users first started, there was a thread in S/FI where users could request custom titles, and the mods would add them or not, as they saw fit. Cheese was pretty new at the time, and was very persistent in "requesting" (read: demanding) a custom title, much to the annoyance of the mods. As time went on, Cheese grew up, and now looks back on this time as an "ugh, I was dumb when I was younger" moment, but with good humour.

So yeah, that point in the Custom Titles thread is Cheese finally getting kicked out of the thread, someone else jokingly suggesting that they'd take over as resident General Annoyance, and hermaj stating in no uncertain terms that that would Not Be Happening. Quoted in a sig both because it's funny as it is, but also because it's funny out-of-context.

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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:26 am UTC

What a great story.
Young Internet Poster's are awkward and annoying as the young tend to be.
One! One grew up, matured and is still not perfect. This must be Cheese's Home.

That is, sort of, touching.
xkcd raised someone.
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Re: (F)leeting (A)nd (R)andom (T)houghts

Postby Felstaff » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:04 am UTC

addams wrote:xkcd raised someone.

Quite a few, actually.
ucim wrote:"No one will ever take Cheese's Place."
a number of OTTers managed to trace its origins pretty well. Start here.


Heh. It's fairly wide of the mark, which makes you think how many historians have missed a teeny-tiny nuance and, from there, gone completely off-track.

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What phlip said is only partially true. There was some drama involving Hermaj and Meaux_Pas, as they had been in a long-term relationship when they were both living in Kuala Lumpur. Hermaj returned to Finland, to live with RealGrouchy and thefiddler, and arranged a meet-up with Cheese (whose former username was OtherDuck). OtherDuck then expressed their feelings for Hermaj, to the chagrin on Meaux_Pas, and as Hermaj's surname was Sieni (Finnish for 'mushroom'), Meaux added a mushroom to their avatar in a kind of 'I'm watching you' way. OtherDuck, who meanwhile had become OtterDuck, and was now Cheese (I think) by this point, also turned their avatar into a mushroom, both of which were drawn by SpitValve (a secret administrator of the site, who turned evil and would log in as any of the three and send PMs in their name, impersonating the user to a T). From the moderator logs, it looks as though SecondTalon stumbled upon SpitValve's chicanery, tried to put a stop to it, and found their entire post history had been wiped (davean spent nearly 6 months attempting to manually replace all the missing posts). Hammer called the cops, and SpitValve, I believe, eventually had the charges against him dropped, as Dr. Gordon (a key witness and resident banana) refused to testify. This all went on behind closed doors, of course, but it took a toll on the mental wellbeing of Hermaj, Meaux_Pas, Cheese, SecondTalon, and jestingrabbit, who unfortunately got mixed up in the tryst (though that is another story). The whole "No. One. Will. Be. Taking. Cheese's. Spot." comment was, essentially, the straw that broke the camel's back. It was Hermaj's code for 'I'm sorry for all the hurt caused, but I'm willing to make things right.' After the Cheese's Spot comment, many of the moderators would pose as Cheese, in jest of course, and when this was discovered, an in-joke ("We are all Cheese") sprang up. It quickly spread to other boards, like the Free 'n' Destitute (With Hookers 'n' Blackjack) forum, and soon enough "We Are All Cheese" became a way of michaelandjimi trying to lay a sick burn on other users (which devolved into a brief flourishing meme based upon the classic ¡This Cheese Is Burning Me! meme. It got tiring and an ultimatum was issued (now boneyarded) demanding the cessation of cheese-related memes. Cheese retired from the forums, and has made peace with Hermaj and Meaux_Pas, who are still good friends to this day. For my part, I attempted to be peacemaker on two occasions, but it just lead to me and thetankengine having a huge, embarrassing public fall-out, which I grovellingly apologised for after ragequitting in about... 2009? Turns out, only Hammer can prevent forest fires.

Hope that clears things up.
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Postby Angua » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:10 am UTC

I miss Cheese around the forums. They are a cool frood.
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Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:34 pm UTC

One Random Thought Leads to Another Random Thought.
I look up at the Stars and say,

The clear winter night is beautiful.
Fall Sucks. Winter is not so bad.

Spoiler:
We didn't get much rain last summer.
We are not getting much rain now.

February can be a very wet month.
I know; I can be flooded in or out.


The road I drive in and out on is....a fucking Torrent when the water runs high.
It rained like that in 2013.

Spoiler:
Oh, dear...The little car I drive is not Storm Ready.
I went an entire season with no impromptu campouts.

My pillow and ...See! I took the blanket out of the car...
It's fresh. I should check the pillow that is in the car.

It might need to Boogie at the Laundry Room Disco.


Spoiler:
The road I drive in and out on has a big hole in it.
I can navigate that area, now.

One or two February storms could form a parking lot on the other side of that.
When this area floods, it's like a slow Flash Flood.

Takes about a week of non-stop Rain.
It takes that Rain to be delivered the way heavy Rain is delivered; Warm.

That warm rain hits the Snow Pack, if we have one.
Then, ...well...then it gets a little wet.

I've never seen the waterfall in the backyard at flood stage.
It's a purple cow. I hope to never see it.

When it's at foold stage, it is dangerous to get close enough to see....

Maybe....That hole in the road is located over a spring and near ...the run off from another spring.
The springs get all dirty went it floods. The springs up high stay clean.

Oh! Thats why they walk all the way up that hill to pipe water to the houses.
The springs up high don't get dirty....Silly me.

oh, dear.... the people up on the other side of the ridge are using a low spring.

Maybe they have punctured the spring below silt level.
Do you know the difference between a spring and an aquifer?


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It would be stupid to put in a bridge.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:06 pm UTC

I am currently filled with righteous anger (coupled with a smidgeon of wry amusement) at, in no particular order:

  • Rental agencies
  • Easyjet
  • Carpet fitters
  • Ball valves

It's been a hell of a morning. On the plus side it turns out that righteous anger is a very productive state of mind. Who knew?

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Postby mathmannix » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:07 pm UTC

Krealr wrote:
Magnanimous wrote:What's in that pot? Are they making fondue?


Plesiosaur urine.

It's been in that pot a long time...

Deva wrote:Guesses cheese soup.

other pictures (such as on these websites) indicate a soup of butternut squash and carrots...
I hear velociraptor tastes like chicken.

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Postby Sombrero Cat » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:55 pm UTC

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Chaos Manufacture

Definition:

Chaos Manufacture - Unnecessarily creating or maintaining an environment of risk, destruction, confusion or mess.


Making a Mess of Things

If you fear picking up the phone or coming home to a family member or spouse because you have no idea what unpleasantness might greet you, you may be dealing with a Chaos Manufacturer.

Not everybody wants peace - some people actively generate chaotic situations in their lives and in the lives of those around them.

Chaos Manufacture is commonly associated with Histrionic Personality Disorder. People who suffer from HPD sometimes engage in destructive behaviors in an attempt to feel in control over their environment or control over their relationships. These behaviors sometimes appear random or illogical to outsiders.

Chaos Manufacture is also common among those who suffer from Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people sometimes derive pleasure out of inflicting hurt or struggle on other people or animals.

Some people interpret these mess-making behaviors as a “cry for help.” However, not everyone who manufactures chaos is trying to gain attention. Some people try to hide the chaos they create, and feel a sense of shame about it. Some people create chaos as a way to generate internal feelings of being important or in control. Some generate chaos as a narcissistic form of recreation, with little regard for how it impacts on others.

Examples of Chaos Manufacture:

Destruction or inappropriate disposal of property.
Theft from family members or from strangers.
Reckless driving. (shit, i'd never let that crazy biotch drive my car)
Suicide attempts and self-harm.
Deliberately having an affair in full view of the other partner.
Acts of cruelty.
Starting fights by baiting outsiders and bystanders.
Calling emergency services such as fire, police or ambulance over a minor or non-existent problem.

What it feels like:

If you’re living with somebody who manufactures chaos, you may feel helpless and powerless.

You may have tried to get the Personality Disordered person in your life to see the error of their ways.
You may have resorted to trying to manipulate their behavior by not doing or saying certain things around them.

You may foster a kind of secret life through work, friendships or activities away from the home which you try to protect from their influence.

It’s common for victims of chaos manufacture to feel a sense of shame over not being able to get their world onto an even keel. Because of this, they may gradually isolate themselves from supportive friends and family. They may avoid inviting others to their home for fear of what it will look like. They may avoid making plans with others due to concerns their plans will be spoiled by a sudden crisis.

Coping with Chaos Manufacture:

Chaos Manufacture is a form of physical and emotional abuse. Even if the abuser is not intentionally targeting the victim, the behavior is still abusive. It is imperative for victims to get to a safe and more secure place and where possible, limit the amount of damage which can be done.

What NOT to Do:

Don't spend your time and energy trying to control the actions of a chaos manufacturer.
Don't retaliate or resort to bad behavior yourself.
Don't leave valuable objects in a vulnerable place.
Don't accept responsibility for fixing other people's messes.
Don't try to handle any crisis alone.
Don't force yourself to provide a logical explanation for the irrational acts of a Personality Disordered individual.

What TO Do:

Remove all items of value from the reach of the chaos manufacturer. This includes:
Access to bank accounts,
Important documents,
Sentimental objects such as photographs, gifts and souvenirs, and
Dangerous items, such as guns, drugs and knives.
Call for backup whenever there is an incident or crisis.
Remove yourself from any situation there is a risk of being physically hurt.
Call the police and report any threats, acts of violence or thefts.
Get support from people you can trust.

Related Personality Disorders

Chaos Manufacture is a common occurrence in relationships involving people who suffer from Antisocial Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder, Paranoid Personality Disorder.

For More Information & Support...

If you suspect you may have a family member or loved-one who suffers from a personality disorder, we encourage you to learn all you can and surround yourself with support as you learn how to cope.

Support Forum - Read real stories. Ask questions.
Top 100 Traits of people with Personality Disorders.
Toolbox - Ideas for coping and common mistakes.
Personality Disorder Glossary - Learn the lingo.
Links to Personality Disorder-related sites.
Books about personality disorders.


This is the self proclaimed Duck in a nut shell. Perfect description. Chaos for hire. Trying to herd cats or just another fuckin Duck, who knows. These are the tactics they use, preying on kindness. I was subjected to this until I reached San Carlos, then it picked back up in Baja. Control Tactics. Yes Sir, spot on.
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Postby FierceContinent » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:26 pm UTC

ucim wrote:
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It's an internet meme.
I'm not sure what it means.
Funny you should mention that. The One True Thread has you covered.

Just recently I asked about this cheese thing, and a number of OTTers managed to trace its origins pretty well. Start here.

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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:40 pm UTC

Man, what Felstaff said. It's astounding how wrong the post in the Time Thread is.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:41 pm UTC

Felstaff, Fora Historian.
Derailed : Gaming Outside the Box.
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Postby Carlington » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:54 pm UTC

Since you're evaluating the methods used by the would-be Fora-historians in the Time thread, are you a Fora-Historiographer?

(Histori-Fora-ographer?)
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Postby mathmannix » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:28 pm UTC

Deva wrote:
Nessie Ladle.jpg

Ranks highly among adorable ladles. Modified relatively little.

I went to order one of these this morning, and the website said that with the high number of requests, it wouldn't be shipped until April. Now it says that they aren't accepting any more orders at all. So, how much of this is from us? I wanted one...
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Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:21 pm UTC

Really?
I'm not all that comfortable with pretty plastic things in the Kitchen.

Taoism.
Once a Rubber Ducky has spent an afternoon simmering,
Neither the Rubber Ducky nor the soup are fit for their original purpose.

For some reason, I think pretty plastic staff is ok in The Fridge and Freezer.
If your Ducky is still warm after several days in the Freezer; Your freezer's broken.

Spoiler:
Or; Your Ducky is made of Uranium.
Is that a Heavy Ducky?


Did you ever give Nuclear Waste any thought?
The guys at Yucca Mountain did.
Spoiler:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository
By 2008, Yucca Mountain was one of the most studied pieces of geology in the world;[21] between geologic studies and materials science[22] the United States had invested US$9 billion on the project.

9 billon is a drop in the Trillions bucket.

Was Yucca de-Funded or Not?
Additionally, the cost of the project continued to escalate because of insufficient funding to most efficiently move forward and complete the project.


The DOE was to begin accepting spent fuel at the Yucca Mountain repository by January 31, 1998. Years after this deadline, the future status of the repository at Yucca Mountain is unknown due to on-going litigation, and opposition by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (NV).[28]

Because of delays in construction, a number of nuclear power plants in the United States have resorted to dry cask storage of waste on-site indefinitely in nearly impervious steel and concrete casks.[29] To keep these plants operating, it may be necessary to construct a temporary facility at the Yucca Mountain site or somewhere else in the United States if opening of the underground storage continues to be delayed.

Good Grief.
What??

Yucca made sense to me.
That's near where they get the Raw Materials.

Who knows what The People, if there are any people, will find in 10, 000 years?

Maybe they will be looking for Uranium.
We were!

oh. I found something that fits my experience.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/10/yucca. ... .shutdown/
The DOE's decision to terminate the Yucca Mountain program "was made for policy reasons, not technical or safety reasons," the GAO report says. DOE officials believe "there are better solutions that can achieve a broader national consensus to the nation's spent fuel and nuclear waste storage needs than Yucca Mountain," the GAO said.

I guess if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says so ....

It's Old News.
I went to Yucca.
I did not know about The Shut Down.

Everything was orderly.
Loads of information open and available.

It looked like they, just, disappeared.
There was fine desert dust everywhere.

Their orders were to Secure and Go.
It looked like they did that.


They left a few things behind.
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Postby Yablo » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:26 pm UTC

Deva wrote:Ranks highly among adorable ladles. Modified relatively little.

Oh, wow. Nobody - and I mean nobody show that to my wife, or I'll have a hundred of them.
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Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:51 am UTC

mathmannix wrote:
Deva wrote:
Nessie Ladle.jpg

Ranks highly among adorable ladles. Modified relatively little.

I went to order one of these this morning, and the website said that with the high number of requests, it wouldn't be shipped until April. Now it says that they aren't accepting any more orders at all. So, how much of this is from us? I wanted one...

It's mostly from imgur, I'm pretty sure. The fora have a fairly high google rating, but random individual pages don't get anywhere near as many views as things on the front page of imgur.
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Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:58 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Man, what Felstaff said. It's astounding how wrong the post in the Time Thread is.

The post is correct. It's reality that is wrong.

Is that sufficiently like a creepy sect?
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Postby addams » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:35 pm UTC

....What are you arguing about?
...I saw a Bald Eagle, yesterday.

That's a Big Bird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnlTrq6wLf0
The first One Minute with or without sound is what that bird looks like.

It must take great patience and forethought to capture those images.
I have not taken one good photo of an eagle. Have you?

Time? Are you tired?
Did you get up on the wrong side of the Thread?
Do you need to go back to Thread and get up on the other side?
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