Indisputable Math

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Indisputable Math

Postby Gyvulys624 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:40 am UTC

Study = No Fail
No Study = Fail

No Study + Study = No Fail + Fail
(No + 1)Study = (No + 1)Fail

Study = Fail


And that's why I'm going to bed now, forget Chemistry, English, and History!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby madprocess » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:56 am UTC

Gyvulys624 wrote:Study = No Fail
No Study = Fail

No Study + Study = No Fail + Fail
(No + 1)Study = (No + 1)Fail

Study = Fail


And that's why I'm going to bed now, forget Chemistry, English, and History!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, but No = -1.

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby roundedge » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:23 am UTC

actually, No=11/2
But if you assume No=1, then the proof is pretty redundant, since you assume what you're trying to prove.

Still, I laughed pretty hard when I saw this, harder when I saw the response.

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Token » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:44 am UTC

roundedge wrote:actually, No=11/2
But if you assume No=1, then the proof is pretty redundant, since you assume what you're trying to prove.

Still, I laughed pretty hard when I saw this, harder when I saw the response.

Actually, No2 = 1.
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Macbi » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:46 am UTC

While we're here:

1/2Full=1/2Empty

2(1/2Full)=2(1/2Empty)

Full=Empty
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby headprogrammingczar » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:32 pm UTC

I think therefore I am.
Knowledge=power.
Power corrupts.
I=evil genius!
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Vengeful Donut » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:38 pm UTC

1/2Full=1/2Empty

2(1/2Full)=2(1/2Empty)

Full=Empty
This is why when someone asks you "is the glass half empty of half full?" you dont say "both."

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Drone731 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:33 pm UTC

Girlfriend = (Time)(Money)
Time = Money
Girlfriend = (Money)^2
Money = sq.root(Evil) ((Money is the root of all evil after all...))
Girlfriend = (sq.root(Evil))^2
Girlfriend = Evil

There's the proof!

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Buttons » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:22 pm UTC

But money is power, and power is energy over time. So, uh, energy is evil?

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Govalant » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:31 pm UTC

Buttons wrote:But money is power, and power is energy over time. So, uh, energy is evil?



So Money = J / s = Watts.

Ohh! So that is why they charge you for electricity!
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Drone731 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:14 pm UTC

Govalant wrote:
Buttons wrote:But money is power, and power is energy over time. So, uh, energy is evil?



So Money = J / s = Watts.

Ohh! So that is why they charge you for electricity!


Exactly. Aren't corollaries fun?

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby immute » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:22 am UTC

Gyvulys624 wrote:Study = No Fail
No Study = Fail

No Study + Study = No Fail + Fail
(No + 1)Study = (No + 1)Fail

Study = Fail


And that's why I'm going to bed now, forget Chemistry, English, and History!!!!!!!!!


actually, No = -1
Therefore, when you divide by (No + 1) you are dividing by ( -1 + 1 ) which is zero, and dividing by zero causes the universe to implode and baby jesus to cry.

Spoiler:
A = B
AB = B²
AB - A² = B² - A²
A ( B - A ) = ( B + A )*( B - A )
A = B + A
A = 2A
1 = 2
From there you can prove just about anything, including 7 - i² = fish (proof left up to reader).

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby jcarmody » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:20 am UTC

time = money
power = work/time
so, power = work/money

but, knowledge = power
so, knowledge = work/money

solving for money:
money = work/knowledge

As knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinity (no matter how hard you work.) This explains the financial success of some people I've worked for...

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Hexadecimator » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:01 pm UTC

jcarmody wrote:time = money
power = work/time
so, power = work/money

but, knowledge = power
so, knowledge = work/money

solving for money:
money = work/knowledge

As knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinity (no matter how hard you work.) This explains the financial success of some people I've worked for...
But knowledge=work/money. So as your salary approaches 0, your knowledge goes to infinity. By doing volunteer work (especially if you're the type of person who places little value on volunteer work) you gain almost infinite knowledge, which you can cash in for power and with that power take all the money from those who lack in intelligence.
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Spiral-Architect » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:20 pm UTC

I = lost track of this thread after a few posts
I = looking for entertainment elsewhere ;)
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Mathmagic » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:48 pm UTC

Drone731 wrote:Girlfriend = (Time)(Money)
Time = Money
Girlfriend = (Money)^2
Money = sq.root(Evil) ((Money is the root of all evil after all...))
Girlfriend = (sq.root(Evil))^2
Girlfriend = Evil

There's the proof!

I always understood that girlfriends are time and money => Girlfriends = Time + Money
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Hexadecimator » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:22 am UTC

mathmagic wrote:
Drone731 wrote:Girlfriend = (Time)(Money)
Time = Money
Girlfriend = (Money)^2
Money = sq.root(Evil) ((Money is the root of all evil after all...))
Girlfriend = (sq.root(Evil))^2
Girlfriend = Evil

There's the proof!

I always understood that girlfriends are time and money => Girlfriends = Time + Money
No, time and money = time*money; you're thinking of or
eg. what is the probability of rolling a 6 and flipping heads? 1/6*1/2=1/12
what is the probability of a 6 or heads? 1/6+1/2=2/3
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Buttons » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:30 am UTC

Hexadecimator wrote:eg. what is the probability of rolling a 6 and flipping heads? 1/6*1/2=1/12
what is the probability of a 6 or heads? 1/6+1/2=2/3
I can't tell how much you're joking, so forgive me if I'm spoiling the joke by pointing out that the above bolded part is totally, totally wrong.

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby quintopia » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:06 am UTC

Let's assume that the coin explodes when the die comes up 6 and the die explodes when the coin comes up heads. . .then it's true.

Moreover, for the specific case in question, it would be true, as time and money are mutually exclusive.

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Hexadecimator » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:17 am UTC

Buttons wrote:
Hexadecimator wrote:eg. what is the probability of rolling a 6 and flipping heads? 1/6*1/2=1/12
what is the probability of a 6 or heads? 1/6+1/2=2/3
I can't tell how much you're joking, so forgive me if I'm spoiling the joke by pointing out that the above bolded part is totally, totally wrong.
Sorry, I forgot that in english, or=XOR. What I meant was, 6||heads (6, heads, or both). I should stick to the compsci fora.
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Mathmagic » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:29 am UTC

Hexadecimator wrote:
mathmagic wrote:
Drone731 wrote:Girlfriend = (Time)(Money)
Time = Money
Girlfriend = (Money)^2
Money = sq.root(Evil) ((Money is the root of all evil after all...))
Girlfriend = (sq.root(Evil))^2
Girlfriend = Evil

There's the proof!

I always understood that girlfriends are time and money => Girlfriends = Time + Money
No, time and money = time*money; you're thinking of or
eg. what is the probability of rolling a 6 and flipping heads? 1/6*1/2=1/12
what is the probability of a 6 or heads? 1/6+1/2=2/3

What about:

"8 and 2 is 10"?
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Hexadecimator » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:46 am UTC

mathmagic wrote:"8 and 2 is 10"?
Good point. But,
8 AND 2 = 0
8 OR 2 = 10

I suppose it could go either way. But I'm sticking with time*money because that's the compsci way to do it. Also, it makes the proof work :P.
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby quintopia » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:21 am UTC

Hexadecimator: your example only works out if you assume that the two events are inherently mutually exclusive.

Pr[Heads or 6]=Pr[Heads]+Pr[6]-Pr[Heads and 6]=1/2+1/6-1/12=7/12

EFT
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Token » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:34 am UTC

Hexadecimator wrote:
Buttons wrote:
Hexadecimator wrote:eg. what is the probability of rolling a 6 and flipping heads? 1/6*1/2=1/12
what is the probability of a 6 or heads? 1/6+1/2=2/3
I can't tell how much you're joking, so forgive me if I'm spoiling the joke by pointing out that the above bolded part is totally, totally wrong.
Sorry, I forgot that in english, or=XOR. What I meant was, 6||heads (6, heads, or both). I should stick to the compsci fora.

I'm pretty sure or in English means OR. Either way, you're wrong.

P(heads OR six) = 1 - P(not heads AND not six)
= 1 - 1/2 * 5/6
= 1 - 5/12
= 7/12

P(heads XOR six) = P(heads AND not six) + P(not heads AND six)
= 1/2 * 5/6 + 1/2 * 1/6
= 1/2
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Hexadecimator » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:36 pm UTC

quintopia wrote:Hexadecimator: your example only works out if you assume that the two events are inherently mutually exclusive.

Pr[Heads or 6]=Pr[Heads]+Pr[6]-Pr[Heads and 6]=1/2+1/6-1/12=7/12

EFT
Yes, I know. It has already been pointed out.

Token: This is why I hate probability. I could have sworn it was:
P[Heads XOR 6]=P[Heads]+P[6]-P[Heads AND 6]=1/2+1/6-1/12=7/12
P[Heads OR 6]=P[Heads]+P[6]=1/2+1/6=2/3

But your way makes perfect logical sense, and a quick simulation reveals that your are indeed correct.
I concede to your superior probability mastery.
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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby user#471729 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:16 am UTC

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! These are all not necessarily true! You've assumed the commutative addition and associative multiplication laws, that 'root' means square root, that taking a root is a function, that 0 > 0, that no symbol can mean more than one thing and that boolean logic can bend infinitinitinitessimallly! I hate you all!

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Re: Indisputable Math

Postby Yakk » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:46 pm UTC

Fixing...
Study = No Fail
No Study = Fail

No Study + Study = Fail + No Fail
(No + 1)Study = (1 + No)Fail

Now, if (No + 1) = (1 + No), then we have Study = Fail.

So the question is, does no one commute? Well, there is traffic that peaks during the time before and after work. So it seems unlikely that no one commutes. So such, we do not know if Study = Fail.

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