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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:09 am UTC

Vytron wrote:I could never find my way to Mornington Crescent, and thought I was being blocked somehow by other players... "Wow, these guys are good!" and all that...


Nah, that's just Transport for London. They do that for everyone.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:38 am UTC

Well, I just had a radical idea...

While all these people travel from all around the world to gather with others already in London, wearing costumes and all that, just to play this game... what if we try to create a Forum Version of the game??

The advantages are clear:

-You can play while being comfortable at home
-It's inexpensive as all you need is an Internet connection and a browser

Sure, it has its disadvantages, like, we'd no longer be able to see each other face to face. It reminds me of Chess played "on the board" and chess played online. You don't get to touch the pieces. You don't see the opponent's faces, and reactions to brilliant moves. It's an entirely different game, but what matters is it'd be fun!

I suggest we call it "Online Mornington Crescent", to differentiate it from people that play it in the actual Tube.

We could send moves in bold, though we'd probably want to also makes comments about them. The problem is, that the rules are so complex, that it's possible people send nonsensical moves and they'd need to be explained on the forum, or how they're illegal, but that still happens on Mornington Crescent games and that just has people yelling at each other faces and there's no record about it unless it's recorded.

How does it sound?

Who's in for playing in the very first Online Mornington Crescent game of the Internet? :D

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:05 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:what if we try to create a Forum Version of the game??

I tried that, remember? It wasn't very popular. :P :P :P
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:44 pm UTC

Well, what about a parody of the game?

Just picture it: we'd pretend that we're playing by some rules, but those rules wouldn't actually exist, so we can make stuff up as well "play", and for someone unfamiliar with the rules of Mornington Crescent, they couldn't tell between a real game and a fake one! :mrgreen:

I still don't know how we'd decide on a winner for that variant, though.

And we can't call it something like "Fictional Mornington Crescent", as it'd give the concept away, so I guess we'd have to name it ironically, something like "Genuine Mornington Crescent."

Hmmm, has someone checked all Mornington Crescent games played over the internet? Perhaps I'm not the first one having this idea, and some people that don't know how to play the actual game dedicate their time to pretending that they do...

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:42 am UTC

I don't know, sounds too confusing, to me.

Why don't we just play a round of the '76 amendments, with simplified Oyster card balances and no graffiti checks?
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:43 am UTC

Marvellous idea.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:57 am UTC

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:09 pm UTC

Oh no you don't.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:51 am UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:Why don't we just play a round of the '76 amendments, with simplified
Oyster card balances and no graffiti checks?


Also known as "Strawberry Mornington Crescent with avocado flavored chips" or "Strawberry Mornington Crescent with avocado flavored crispy fries" (in the USA) in the flavorful MC normalization.

This is a very complex position already, gotta love the classics, huh?

I'll pass for now, but leave the option open to unpass and move later.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:17 am UTC

Okay, I don't know if this loses the game, but should make the game symmetric:

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:18 am UTC

That'd only be symmetric if you use a "CHANGE PLACES!" card with flicky. Otherwise it's just repeating and you get trapped in a loop. Like getting stuck on a carriage on the Circle line where the doors stopped working, and before they started this actually-goes-to-Hammersmith-now malarkey, so you're left going round and round forever.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:33 am UTC

Echo244 wrote:so you're left going round and round forever.

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I don't see a reason not to play out an infinite game, so:

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Lawsome » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:49 pm UTC

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The issue with this ruleset is that it game get's locked down early. That ridiculous Oxford-Earl scenario has essentially handed the game to Eviloatmeal and it's barely even started.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:58 pm UTC

I think it's still a bit premature to say the game's been handed to eviloatmeal when they haven't done another move yet. We just need to keep dragging the game in the direction we need as quickly as possible before they next post.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:19 pm UTC

Echo244 wrote:That'd only be symmetric if you use a "CHANGE PLACES!" card with flicky.


No, the symmetry remains. What counts is the way we're sitting around the table, not the turn order.

Also, hey Lawsome! Long time no see. Did you play in the Mornington Crescent Championship of last year? I always forget the formula you use to decide if you play or not...

Anyway, I'll use the Triple Defense:

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Bigger Ben

Biggest Ben


Which should allow me to play 3 moves in a row next turn.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:23 am UTC

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:56 am UTC

flicky1991 wrote:I think it's still a bit premature to say the game's been handed to eviloatmeal when they haven't done another move yet. We just need to keep dragging the game in the direction we need as quickly as possible before they next post.

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You can't play a noun / proper noun combo while playing the pronoun game. This is modern revision, after all. You need to either pick a pronoun, or a noun, or a proper noun, but not all three.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:58 pm UTC

Fine, I'll upgrade "they" to a noun. You might come to wish you hadn't forced me to do that.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:49 am UTC

I always hate to make these moves, I look really odd doing them. The kind of moves I'd not want my friends to know about... But they're the best... so I have no option...

Enter Elizabeth Tower

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flicky1991's Upminster was a Double Novelty move, which means it's impossible to transpose to the Main Tube. The game should be interesting as there's absolutely no theory about the incoming positions.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby eviloatmeal » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:15 am UTC

King's Cross

Shunt to Northern line.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:26 am UTC

Northern Line?

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Lawsome » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:21 pm UTC

Also, hey Lawsome! Long time no see. Did you play in the Mornington Crescent Championship of last year? I always forget the formula you use to decide if you play or not...

I'm afraid I'm banned. I heard you did quite well, though.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:22 pm UTC

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:36 am UTC

Lawsome wrote:I'm afraid I'm banned. I heard you did quite well, though.


Nah, it was a guy that stole my identity and impersonated me to get in. He did pretty well, and his performance allowed me entry into other exclusive events ran by people that didn't know about it, so I'm not complaining. I still wonder who it was, as what happened was frankly bizarre...

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:56 am UTC

No, but it does open up the diagonals to south of the river.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:59 am UTC

I think I can shunt to the punch-line here:

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby generalz » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:57 am UTC

Risky move, I know, but:

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:48 pm UTC

That's the sort of move I just can't bear.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby generalz » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:20 pm UTC

I see what you did there. Bear in mind I won't forget.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:13 pm UTC

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:21 am UTC

Pfah.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Lawsome » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:31 am UTC

Bond Street

Had to abandon my last strategy, let's see how this goes.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:53 pm UTC

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:12 am UTC

flicky, that Station was closed in 1994, making your move abnormal. Are you sure you want to play it? You can still Undo it and move to an open Station.

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:48 am UTC

I know exactly what I'm doing. :mrgreen:
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:22 am UTC

No, you don't.

Mornington Crescent

Not a full win, but an abnormal one... I'll take it!

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Mornington Crescent is unavailable to me but it doesn't matter.

This move order is available to me:

Liverpool Street

This puts everyone in Nip, allowing me an extra move.

Aldwych

I become abnormal and knock out flicky, while everyone else is still in Nip. I began running empty and reverse Wembley High Road.

Bond Street

Here I knock out Lawsome while everyone else is still in Nip. This makes Turnham Green wild.

Uxbridge

Here I knock out Echo244 while everyone else is still in Nip. The empty rule allows me a change of direction...

Goodge Street

The Effingham Gambit.

Kew Gardens
King's Cross

Knocking out generalz and eviloatmeal.

With everyone knocked out I'm now playing alone.

So, the shortest route from King's Cross to Morninton Crescent:

St. Pancras -> Euston (via Victoria) -> Euston (via Northern) -> Mornington Crescent

So:

St. Pancras
Euston
Euston


Mornington Crescent

The double playing of Euston is tricky, since one needs to Change Train.

The reason I play Mornington Crescent directly from Duke of Wellington is because Churchill's contingency of the avocado flavored crispy fries of the variation allows me to play a move directly if it's unstoppable.

And of course, This more order is only valid from 2am to 3am (Local time) of a January 29 that falls on Friday, so I had to wait for the window to open to play this. I'd have been impressed if flicky was able to see all this, so that's why I gave him the change to undo :)

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby flicky1991 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:02 pm UTC

...Damn. I even tried to see whether you were planning something, but I miscalculated and somehow thought Uxbridge would be Nipless.

Anyone played the latest International Edition yet? I've seen a couple of amateur games of it, but I'd like to see how it plays out in the hands of Mornington experts like yourselves.
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Lawsome » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:26 pm UTC

flicky1991 wrote:...Damn. I even tried to see whether you were planning something, but I miscalculated and somehow thought Uxbridge would be Nipless.

Anyone played the latest International Edition yet? I've seen a couple of amateur games of it, but I'd like to see how it plays out in the hands of Mornington experts like yourselves.

Frankly I find casual Mornington crescent far more entertaining. Professional games have a habit of always beginning in the same way - pick a circle line station, attempt a sweep up the central line (no one manages a sweep of course, because they're all blocking each other) eventually someone accidentally leaves an opening, and the first player to spot that opening seals it. Now they can sweep across whichever line was left open and claim victory.


Of course there are exceptions, when the sweeping player makes a mistake, or two players leave an opening at the same time, or one player just opens strangely to mix things up. That's when the game really starts to shine. But these things happen less often in pro games. (This is all for International rules. The UK championship, if you remember, uses Greenwich rules which is a whole other can of worms. I dislike the Greenwich rules but there' snot time to go into details with that now.)
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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Vytron » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:34 pm UTC

Well, you kind of spoiled Professional games for me :P

I had avoided watching one or reading any book about professional games, so that once I played in one, it'd be something new. But you already told me what's it all about and how they're like, making all this exercise pointless...

Thank you very much :roll:

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Re: Mornington Crescent

Postby Echo244 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:42 am UTC

OK, so how about an amateur round using the forty-third parallel ruleset? Queensbury rules apply and no Olympic qualification points are available, so it'll be open and enjoyable without game-wrecking professional strategies.
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