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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:14 am UTC

Fudge welcomes the Jolly Roger Federation into the game.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Arlick » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:29 am UTC

The Jolly Roger Federation (JRF) thanks Fudge for the warm welcome, and wishes to exchange embassies and potential trade agreements. Similarly, the JRF extends an invitation to Madura with the hopes of exchanging embassies and discuss possible trade relations.

International affairs
Actions:
Discuss trade relation possibilites with both Madura and Fudge.
Open embassy - invite Madura and Fudge ambassadors.

Plans:
Apply for League of Nations.
Discuss possibility of a Trade Center or Free Trade City in a neutral zone.


The JRF sees fit to begin disaster prevention and health improvements.

Internal affairs
Actions:
Implement quake/flood protection infrastructure (Increase public safety)
Improve national healthcare (+0.5% population)

Plans:
Research & development
-Astronomic warning system (meteor showers, asteroids, stray "missiles")
Music Festival Fundraiser (Increase public standing)
I have some questions, and by that I mean one. Is anyone else afraid of toasters?
Go easy on my spelling, I am slightly dyslexic.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:22 am UTC

Fudge is willing to listen. If you would request anything from Fudge, we would be more than happy to help. Also, what does the Jolly Roger Federation has that Fudge does not, if I were to be so inclined to ask?

Actions:
Expand militia to 10% of population

Plans:
Spoiler:
Territorial expansion of southern Africa and eventually Africa
Cooperate with Antarctica to go to Mars, using space research
Develop a compromise between agriculture and architecture
Develop much more efficient education
Switch entirely to clean sustainable energy

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm UTC

Antarctica is pleased to accept Fudge's offer of joint exploration of mars and begins research and development of the necessary space technologies.
To be read only by cjquines or after years of espionage:
Spoiler:
Antarctica expects full approval by fudge of any land claims made by Antarctica, Which will include but not be limited to: much of South America, Madagascar, and the islands of the South Atlantic. Antarctica in return will not claim any part of the continent of Africa, and will fully support Fudge in its claims. As signs of good faith Antarctica will share all of its mature geothermal technologies and makes an offer of a full peace treaty.
Antarctica ceases development of its military, after over a decade of continuous expansion it is now somewhat formidable, although it is still primarily suited to defense.
In an effort to increase humanities understanding of the southern ocean antarctica claims a small, sparsely inhabited section of the south of South America, from 49 degrees south and southwards, for research purposes. Antarctica's population increases by 433 as a result.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:26 pm UTC

The Empiric Federation of The United Dominion of The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania offically welcome our two newest Nations, Jolly Roger Federation & Fudge, into the International community.

Every Member of a Nation is automatically accepted into the League of Nations, lest it defeats its own purpose as a forum within a forum to discuss and resolve dispute between nations in a peaceful and diplomatic manner.

The Republic of North Oceania sent a diplomatic message to warn the government of Jolly Roger Federation that since it is a particially a monarchy, it might not meet Antarctica's definition of democracy and therefore Antarctica might not recognize Jolly Roger Federation's Nationhood.

The People's Republic of North Oceania fully recognize Jolly Roger Federation's status as a nation and look foward to future co-operation between the two nations.

The Republic of North Oceania have a formal request to Madura: North Sentinel Island is currently one of the few remaining indigenous people not to have contact with the outside world. The Republic of North Oceania wish for these Sentinelese to continue to live in peace and undisturbed by anyone and furthremore the Island to remain unclaimed by any nations.

Spoiler:
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A Tragedy have struck in the Land of Great North Oceania. The Ministry of Love in airstrip One was targeted by a terrorist attack leaving 666 people dead and many wounded. A group by the name of "Front de libération du Québec" (FLQ for short) claim responsibility. North Oceania condemn the FLQ as a terrorist grouup and placed FLQ's leader, Emmanuel Goldstein, in North Oceania's most wanted list.

After three weeks of extensive investigation, North Oceania has a lead to the prescences of an FLQ Hide-out/base of operation of in the nearby Island of Ireland. Troops quickly deploy and had already secure the Barony of Waterford, Wexford, Cork, and Wicklow. North Oceania decree that Ireland's citizens remain unharmed and are only seeking to arrest and eliminate any Quebecios prescences in the area for the security of both Ireland and North Oceania. Intense Fighting occure daily as the North Oceania Army combats the terrorist hiding withing Ireland.

Spoiler:
(Neither the FLQ or Emmanuel Goldstein is real. The bombing was stage by the government as an excuse to occupy Ireland. The few 'FLQ" in Ireland are actually cells sponsored by North Oceania to stage fighting and place dead Quebecios bodies in area after there's military combat.)


Spoiler:
North Oceania continue it's efforts into Nuclear Research under Area 731.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:40 pm UTC

Map.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:45 pm UTC

Questions:

Can anyone read the spoilers in your most recent post, Nylonathatep? Can we use the information in character or out of character?
Should Ireland be blue?

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:54 pm UTC

bouer wrote:Should Ireland be blue?

Waterford, Wexford, Cork, and Wicklow are blue. Oceania does not control the whole of Ireland yet.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:11 pm UTC

bouer wrote:Questions:

Can anyone read the spoilers in your most recent post, Nylonathatep? Can we use the information in character or out of character?


You can read them. They are not in game information thou. It'll take some investigative work to undercover these info and use them in game in some shape or form.

bouer wrote:Should Ireland be blue?


Eveuntually. It'll take some time to conquer Ireland assist the local government in uprooting the terrorist group in Ireland. If patzer wanted to go into such detail, he could turn those four barony (Waterford, Wexford, Cork, and Wicklow) of Ireland to Blue. Even then, Military prescences =/= control of region... I still got a few things to cook up before I can fully claim Ireland.

People's Republic of North Oceania Motto:

Bellum, pax
Libertas est servitutem
Ignorantia est fortitudo


Edit: gotta give Patzer props for the amount of details on the map.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:20 pm UTC

Antarctica is deeply saddened by the terrorist attacks in the British Isles. Antarctica hopes that the organization nominally in charge of this area, the so called "Empiric Federation of The United Dominion of The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania" will provide evidence to the international community that this event was indeed a terrorist attack perpetrated by the FLQ. Antarctica is willing to offer help in securing Ireland from this terrorist threat, so that it can be returned to peace and full autonomy as soon as possible.
Antarctica would like to express its full support of the Jolly Roger Federation as a nation, it meets every criteria needed to be recognized by Antarctica.

Antarctica sends a single troop carrying blimp with 3 accompanying drones to Ireland, to help in investigating the terrorist attacks.

For thecamoninja to read:
Spoiler:
Begin attempt to intercept North Oceania's secret messages. 3 years seems reasonable.


For cjquines (and camo) to read:
Spoiler:
Antarctica is worried about possible attacks by North Oceania on Quebecois and the Irish. If Fudge sends a token military party to Ireland conflict may be averted.


For Djehutynakht (and camo) to read:
Spoiler:
Antarctica is worried about possible attacks by North Oceania on Quebecois and the Irish. If Norlandia sends a token military party to Ireland conflict may be averted. Norlandia should know it is fully supported by Antarctica in any peaceful expansion in the Arctic and surrounding areas.


For Arlick (and camo) to read:
Spoiler:
Antarctica is worried about possible attacks by North Oceania on Quebecois and the Irish. If the Jolly Roger Federation sends a token military party to Ireland conflict may be averted.


For cousj001 (and camo) to read:
Spoiler:
Antarctica is worried about possible attacks by North Oceania on Quebecois and the Irish. If Madura sends a token military party to Ireland conflict may be averted.


To continue Antarctic research, over the next 10 years Antarctica will establish small research bases on St. Helena Island and the southernmost part of Madagascar, as well as increase areas of research in New Zealand and Tasmania.

Edit: Motto: Scientia, Prudentia, Sapientia

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Arlick » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:09 am UTC

The Jolly Roger Federation expresses it's concern over the matters occurring in the British Isles and offers to send four non-aligned war-vessels (including an aircraft carrier) to moderate the actions taken by all party's involved, to ensure the safety of the Irish.

The Jolly Roger Federation would like to offer the nation of Fudge copious amounts of fish in return for wheat-based products. We would also like to offer petroleum as a future possibilty, under the circumstances that an oil venture soon to be taken place succeeds.

International Affairs
Actions:
Send support for reconstruction of damage dealt to North Oceania if required
Send non-aligned military vessels to moderate conflict in British Isles
Offer fish to Fudge in hopes of wheat import

Plans:
Assuming Success in oil venture-> Offer petroleum as trade export

Internal Affairs
Actions:
Conduct music festival
Oil venture
Implement Astronomic Warning System

Plans:
Expand to Hokkaido
Increase housing in Hokkaido, relocate people to ease congestion.
Appoint new council members for Hokkaido.
I have some questions, and by that I mean one. Is anyone else afraid of toasters?
Go easy on my spelling, I am slightly dyslexic.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:18 am UTC

Fudge would gladly export wheat to JRF.
To be read only by douer, or after years of espionage:
Spoiler:
Fudge supports of Antarctica's claims. Fudge will be sharing its full knowledge of technology to Antarctica.


Fudge will be sending a military party (albeit weak, for Fudge has not researched much on militia) to Ireland to defend against the Quebecois.
Fudge will be slowly marching northward and battle southern Africa and claim land.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:53 am UTC

The Nordlandic Thing has authorized referendums to be set up amongst several Arctic Territories (mostly islands within the Arctic Circle) to vote on whether or not to join Nordlandia. All communities which vote in the affirmative will be allowed to send delegates to the Constitutional Convention, and therefore will be incorporated into the nation with the adoption of the new Constitution.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby orangedragonfire » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:56 pm UTC

The United Internet has completed its research into how much different countries use the internet. (this basically means that everybody has to tell me how much their countries use internet, what kind of internet people tend to have available etc. That will go a long way to deciding how I interact with your country)

An overview over what is available:
- Most commonly (in technologically advanced countries) people will buy their computers, programs and internet-access from various different companies or stores (most of which belong to UI or work with the UI).
- Currently, the only unified internet offer is the one made by the UI which offers countries free basic internet - satellite access, non-personal internet-café and basic hardware. This offer is mostly made to countries, though cities or other smaller collections of people may also ask for it on their own if their country doesn't want to accept this offer; but does allow people in the country to do so.

Tiers of various parts necessary to get internet:

Computers:
Basic Tier - stationary computers
Normal Tier - Laptops
Advanced tier - Internet-pads
(supercomputers are also available, though they are mostly just of use to companies and governments; not private people)

Access:
Basic Tier - Satellite
Normal Tier - Phone cables
Advanced Tier - Optical fiber cables
(also, wi-fi is available, but that is of course only short-range)

Software:
Lots of different stuff, which lots of versions of everything. It's basically a mess.



The United Internet starts a long-term project aiming at introducing clear standards for various software, so that things work better together and that it will be easier to understand what is available.



The plans for the space station are ready. The United Internet purchases some areas in Africa to build a spaces station parts manufactory.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:06 pm UTC

Map:
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Changes:
United Internet given small area in Africa for space station.
Fudge's border moved north slightly.
Antarctica's bases on Saint Helena and Madagascar added.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:03 pm UTC

The Peace Keepers/Anti Terrorist Units of North Oceania continues to push through the region Blitzkrieg style and takes full control of South-Eastern coast of Ireland including the Barony of Dublin, Cork (basically all coastal Barony from Coolock to West Caabery). Actions seems to have died down in Ireland as there's evidence that FLQ's Leader, Emmanuel Goldstein, has fled the country along with most of his Gorilla resistance forces. Occassional fire fights still occures within the villages and North Oceania soldier's dead bodies are hung in city square as intimidation tactics by the Terrorist group.

Simon Cowell personally visited the frountlines to raise the morale of his countrymen, and re-affair his statement that North Oceania will not negotiate with terrorists and will stop at nothing until the elimination of the group known as "Front de libération du Québec". El Presidente Simon Cowell also took the opportunity to thank The Nation of Fudge and The Jolly Roger Federation's support to this peace keeping mission and look forward to any future co-operation with these, or an nation, to a future where people of this world is free from war and terror.

On behalf of North Oceania, El Presidente Simon Cowell also thank Jolly Roger Federation's reconstruction efforts for its government building and would ask any nations for extra concrete not only to reconstruct its damaged building, but also to construct the HQ for the League of Nations. On that note, North Oceania would kindly reminded every nation that their membership fee for the League of Nation is due. Proceeds would be 25% on the construction of the League of Nation's HQ, 70% on United Internet's Space project, and 5% adminstration fees for the maintainance of the League of Nation (mostly Camo's salaries.)

A Local Water Treatment Plant was sabotaged by the FLQ in the City of Waterford, Ireland. North Oceania sent supplies of fresh bottled water to the local population. FLQ claim full responsibility of this attack.

A video has been issued by Emmanuel Goldstein, supposed leader of the "Front de libération du Québec". It thanked Antarctica for their support in their operations and welcomes any further hostilities between Antarctica and North Oceania. Mr Goldstein urged Citizen 53242 to deploy these troops to slaughter the Irish and lay claim on Ireland, invade the island and use it as a staging ground for future North Oceania invasion. Mr Goldstein claims his group's aim is to "rebuild the Nation of New Global France", which includes: New France, France, Vietnam, and Most of North Western Africa.

Map of FLQ Claim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fren ... entury.png

It's secondary aim is to turn Quebec French as the international language.

North Oceania is extremely concern about the suppose alliance between Antarctica and the Terrorist group known as "Front de libération du Québec". Ron Jermey, Diplomat of North Oceania for Antarctica, questions Antarctica's involvement with the recent activities of FLQ.

And now for more Cheerful News, Simon Cowell's most popular TV show "North Oceania's got talent" has assembled a group of top talent to form a five member boy band named "Une Directione". 'Une Directione', managed under Simon Cowell himself, became an instant sensational hit and storm the hearts of teenage girls world wide.

Edit:

To Thank The Nation of Fudge and The Jolly Roger Federation's support in these dire times, North Oceania sent two diplomats to the two respective nations in hope to seek further co-operations between their nation and North Oceania.

Ambassador Yui Hatano would represent North Oceania's Interest to The Jolly Roger Federation

Spoiler:
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While Ambassador Kobe Tai would speaks on behalf of North Oceania to the people of Fudge.

Spoiler:
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:16 pm UTC

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby thecamoninja » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:06 am UTC

Sorry I've been away, but the thread seems to have managed fine without me. I've decided I might as well maintain an in-game presence as well as taking on a modly role to settle military conflicts, border disputes, and territorial expansion. Someone at some point mentioned a mediator, which I think is an apt way of describing my role.

My in game presence takes form not as a nation, but an organization, akin the the UN or League of Nations: the International Council of World Affairs. The ICWA is headquartered in the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. It is presided over by the democratically elected Secretary Muhammad Nikolai Timur Wong (half Russian half Chinese, converted to Islam. Don't ask.) The headquarters of the ICWA is considered neutral territory for all nations. It also contains the offices of the official world cartographer. The council is comprised of representatives from any nation state that wishes to send one, and will discuss and pass resolutions on any topic any council member has motioned to discuss that is seconded by another council member or the secretary.

Mediation stuff:
Welcome to the game new nations of Fudge and Jolly Roger Federation. Also, no-one worry about marking whether or not I can read their spoilers, I read all of them anyways.
  • I was a bit worried about the remarkably high percentage of population in the military in the Jolly Roger Federation, but considering how low that population is in the first place, it shouldn't be a problem. Expanding to Hokkaido shouldn't be a problem either.
  • Fudge's northward expansion in Africa is cool, most resistance comes from small local militias, but if it tries to expand too far to fast it will be unable to hold its nation together, especially considering the many highly undeveloped, rural, and inaccessible areas in much of southern Africa which it will be hard to extend and maintain influence over. Furthermore, conquering the Congo jungle and those living there will be a very difficult task requiring large military expenditures, should you choose to undertake it.
  • The Republic of North Oceana's politically tricky ways of insinuating itself into Ireland seem realistic enough to me. No issues.
  • Nordlandia's attempted democratic expansion over a large area but small population is also fine, though certainly there will be a few that vote to stay separate. Probably nowhere near a majority, though.
  • The area claimed by Antarctica in South America is very large, but also very undeveloped, and there are barely any people there to oppose it, so no issue. How much influence it can actually exert over that area, or what "exerting influence" over a huge swath of wilderness even entails, is another matter. Certainly, trying to extract resources from it would probably be difficult, undeveloped as it is.
    I think that covers everything, sorry if the list is a bit out of order, and if I've missed anything or skipped over something you think is significant, let me know!

International Council of World Affairs stuff:
The ICWA would like to begin by offering copious amounts of office space in the tallest man-made structure in the world to any diplomatic delegation sent by any nation state in the world. Furthermore, it would like to offer a seat on the council to one delegate from each nation state.
Secretary Wong suggests that pertinent topics for the discussion of the first council include:
  • The creation of a declaration of universal human rights
  • A three-pronged multinational treaty agreeing to limit military research and production, to seek mediation via the ICWA before declaring war, and to ban the use of certain weapons and technologies should warfare break out
  • A multinational agreement for member nations to provide recruits for an international neutral peacekeeping force controlled fully by the ICWA
  • A multinational agreement to provide funding for various humanitarian programs administered by the ICWA or similar non-government organizations (such programs include but are not limited to: providing vaccination and medical care for to undeveloped areas, providing education to those who lack it, and creating infrastructure to improve quality of life for those living in poverty)
  • A multinational agreement to share both funding for and results of scientific research
  • An agreement to impose economic sanctions against any nation state found to be in violation of any agreement or treaty made within the ICWA
The ICWA would like to commend the nation of United Internet for its strides to provide access to information to those who lack it.
The ICWA would like to reprimand the nation of the Republic of North Oceania for what it views as excessive use of force against the Irish people in response to terrorist attacks on its own soil. The IWCA is wary of the possibility of violent military expansion on the part of the Republic of North Oceania and urges said nation to seek a resolution to the conflict via peaceful mediation and negotiation rather than armed force.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:17 am UTC

I have a lot more stuff to post, but just for now...

I'm sure that there will be some resistance to Nordlandic Expansion.. but I plan on annexing it all anyways. In those islands there's probably at best small smatterings of villages and communities... honestly I think my capital, Reykjavic, is the only real city in the area. Mostly it's just so that I can seem bigger on the map. Yay cartographic distortion! Mer-ca-tor! Mer-ca-tor!

I'm torn between whether to advocate for a Mercator Map (which, though distorted, makes me look freaking huge) or a North Pole Azimuthal Projection (map with the North Pole in the center... this is the one the UN emblem uses) which will put me in the dead center of the map.

Hehehe....


Anyways....

The Republic of Nordlandia is planning to send a temporary delegation to Dubai. The temporary is because of the current constitutional transition---it will become permanent or replaced with the adoption of the new Constitution.


The Republic would like to express dismay at North Oceania's recent use of excessive force in the lands of Ireland. Ireland being a nation of strong Celtic heritage we are especially dismayed due to the large number of Icelanders who can trace roots back to Celtic settlers. In addition, Ireland being a land of historical persecution and enslavement by the English (which your nation is), we feel history may be repeating itself in a bad way.

We have summoned the North Oceanic Ambassador to the Foreign Ministry to explain his nation's actions.


Intelligence Spoiler:
Spoiler:
In addition, we were dismayed because we had our eyes on Ireland. Not that we expected to get it... have to give Nylonathathep some room to expand you know...

Nordlandic Intelligence has been given the green light to begin activities in North Oceania. Intelligence services as well as the military are being given special autonomous status during the transition in order to keep them functional.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby thecamoninja » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:23 am UTC

((Actually, the topic of map projections is a good one to bring up. I don't mean to question our official cartographer; patzer's doing a fantastic job, but as Djehutynakht points out, the projection he's using is rather distorted. The problem is finding a good projection that doesn't totally fuck over Antarctica - most of the projections that don't distort something or other end up chopping up continents instead. My best suggestion would be the fuller projection (Wikipedia) for representing all continents undistorted and unbroken, although I've had trouble finding a copy of it that's as high quality as the one patzer has right now. This one is pretty good, though covered in borders and cities. An alternative is the Waterman butterfly, but appropriate high res versions of that were even sparser. However, I am thinking of making the Waterman or the Cahill butterfly the logo of the ICWA; it's way cooler than the UN's stupid azimuthal BS, which distorts literally everything.))
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:14 pm UTC

thecamoninja wrote:The problem is finding a good projection that doesn't totally fuck over Antarctica


I used the map from the previous Create your own Country, which didn't have Antarctica, then found a map of Antarctica and added it to vaguely the right position on the map.

I agree a more accurate projection would be nicer, but unfortunately as you say there aren't any detailed versions. The map currently in use isn't too bad except in the far north.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:41 pm UTC

Oops, I wrote this yesterday and never submitted it. :oops:

To be read only by cjquines (and camo), or after years of espionage:
Spoiler:
Antarctica is surprised and humbled by Fudge's incredible generosity in the offer of sharing all technology. Antarctica is unfortunately unable to reciprocate to such an extent as a measure of national defense, however Antarctica will be happy to share most civilian technologies with the exception of nuclear technologies. Antarctica is willing to provide military support to Fudge for the consolidation of Africa. Antarctica would also like to extend the offer to Fudge to collaborate in Antarctica's South Pole 1000 Kilometer Array Project. If Fudge accepts Antarctica will share all of its space technologies and knowledge and the nations can begin building an array of telescopes in southern Africa. Antarctica would also like to increase the scope of the peace treaty between Antarctica and Fudge and increase trade between the nations. Antarctica and Fudge both have a great deal of mineral resources. Antarctica would like to trade some of it's advanced mining equipment for minerals, and trade some minerals Antarctica is rich in but Fudge is poor in for those Fudge is rich in but Antarctica is poor in.


Send 1 blimp with an accompaniment (108) of drones to base in Southernmost Africa. Send 11 blimps with accompaniments of drones to northern frontier of Fudge. These blimps are all to be used by Fudge to expedite the process of peacefully consolidating Africa. They can be treated as part of Fudge's military until further notice.

Edit: Wow a lot happened yesterday! I'll make a new post so I don't confuse myself.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:41 pm UTC

Antarctica had been planning on constructing its own supercomputers and internal internet however if the United Internet signs a peace treaty with Antarctica, Antarctica will be pleased to buy all of information technology from UI.

UI
If UI signs full peace treaty.
Antarctica would like to trade minerals necessary for the construction of computers: steel, copper, gold, rare earth metals, etc. for:
Advanced Tier Computers for populations, and a extremely high powered continually improving supercomputer for government use.
Advanced Tier Access to main cities (Citcra and Ice) and Basic Tier to rest of nation. Full Wi-FI to entire city of Ice (extremely dense population, shouldn't be hard).

The bill that resulted in this decision was one of the fastest passed, and the greatest majority in the history of Antarctica. 99.3 percent of the population is in favor of the legislation. Antarctica will spare no expense in providing its citizens with the vast collection of funny pictures of cats human knowledge that is teh interwebz the Internet.

NO
In a somewhat disconcerting turn of events, Antarctica's peacekeeping troops in Ireland have seen no evidence at all of terrorist activities, or even that the Front de libération du Québec even exists. Regardless, with the information from North Oceania that the FLQ's leader and most of its troops have left, Ireland will surely be able to police itself without need for extranational intervention. Antarctica's blimps stand (float) ready to carry any troops or equipment from Ireland back to Great Britain, if North Oceania so requests this. All nations should be assured that Antarctica is not in any way affiliated with these terrorists, and asks them to assign the burden of proof correctly, on those who have made claims without evidence.

In regards to "league of nations fees," Antarctica is, as always, wholly opposed to international headquarters being in the realm of a particular nation's or pseudonation's realm of influence. Antarctica

In a parallel to the famous parable of the fisherman, Antarctica is devoting resources towards repairing the bombed water treatment plant, so that the city of Waterford may drink for the rest of its life, as opposed to being dependant on foreign water suppliers.

ICWA

Antarctica would like to join the International Council of World Affairs, and will send a delegation to the Burj Khalifa.
Antarctica fully supports all 6 suggestions by Secretary Wong, with the added suggestion that the ICWA sends inspectors to every member on a regular basis to ensure proper compliance.

Antarctica would like to suggest that the first legislation passed in the International Council of World Affairs is making the playing of "Une Directione's" music a crime against humanity.

Map
I support the use of that beautiful map created by XKCD's resident crackpot:
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:57 pm UTC

Nordlandia protests against the use of the Waterman Butterfly for official cartographic purposes. Although our lively cartographic community loves messing around with it, sadly the reality is that it slices into our nation at three pivotal points, and so we believe it does a far greater injustice to our citizens, especially those that live in these areas, than that wrought by distortion.

We continue to advocate for use of the good ol' fashioned Mercator or the North Polar Azimuthal. Fuller might work, but that shape is so difficult to navigate.

Spoiler:
In real life I wouldn't go for either of these, except maybe azimuthal for an emblem, but seeing as they benefit me cartographically...



In terms of the official map, Patzers isn't doing a bad job. The main point of the map is just to let us know where each other are. (Also, I thought the whole Antarctica bit on the map was a new style of presentation I've never seen before)


Anyways, Ballot Boxes and official Elections Officers are being distributed to referendum areas. Counting the votes may be a long process due to the remoteness of so many referendum locations.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:36 pm UTC

Waterman also makes Norlandia top-center, which should balance out cutting you to pieces. Norlandia isn't actually damaged too much by it, If it's coloured in Boundaries should be clear.

I support it because the most important things to us are size and shape, navigability isn't really an issue. It also looks neat, would go great on the ICWA flag, and is a nice change from the rectangular maps that are usually seen.

Edit: good news for me, I thought I had read somewhere that Antarctica is probably mineral rich. Confirmed. And never been tapped. Lots of Uranium, in particular.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby orangedragonfire » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:21 pm UTC

(I'm assuming here that the resources offered will more than offset what is needed to build the computers for Antarctica)
The United Internet will accept Antarctica's offer of internet in exchange for resources; given a few extra requests:
- The United Internet will need a small area in antarctica to set up a factory to produce the computers for the population; shipping them from other locations is both time-consuming and resource-consuming.
- As for the supercomputer, you have two options. One, you get a physical supercomputer, big as a large hall, consumes lots of computing power, etc... OR we hardwire all of your nation's normal computers so that they will divert spare processing cycles to the government computations. The second option is likely to give you a lot more processing power to play with, but it will take longer to set up, since parallell and cloud-computer techniques are still under development. The second option would also mean that it will take longer to get new computers to your entire population.

Also, how are your policies on UI companies? Are they allowed inside your country, to, say, sell better access to those not living in major cities, better software and maybe some tech-support?

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The United Internet joins the ICWA.
The United Internet is happy to provide full free top-tier internet and tech-support to all of ICWA's employees and all delegates at the ICWA.

About the issues (in the order they were presented):
- There is now an online open source draft for what a universal declaration of human rights could look like.
- The United Internet fully supports limiting military and talking with each other before shooting
- The UI is sceptical of an international peacekeeping force. There are doubts about whether it could stay neutral.
- The UI supports giving funding to humanitarian programs; but wonders why this is limited to non-government programs. Is there something wrong with government-supported programs?
- The United Internet already makes all of its research public in detailed publicly accessible online archives. All other nations are welcome to use the same archives, if they wish, as that is the easiest way to share the knowledge.
- The United Internet will wait to support any mention of sanctions and reparations to see what kind of agreements are made at the ICWA first.

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The United Internet starts another research project (because there aren't enough of those currently), looking into recycling electronics efficiently. Maybe even create some that can be updated; so that you don't have to buy entirely new computers all the time.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby thecamoninja » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:07 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:- The UI is sceptical of an international peacekeeping force. There are doubts about whether it could stay neutral.
- The UI supports giving funding to humanitarian programs; but wonders why this is limited to non-government programs. Is there something wrong with government-supported programs?
- The United Internet already makes all of its research public in detailed publicly accessible online archives. All other nations are welcome to use the same archives, if they wish, as that is the easiest way to share the knowledge.

  • The ICWA peacekeeping force would likely be mostly unarmed, and carry weapons only for the purposes of self defense in dangerous environments. Its primary purpose would be to provide mediation between conflicting parties in areas of high tension or open conflict, and to provide immediate relief to civilians harmed, displaced, or otherwise affected by violent conflict in the area. It would not be given the resources to support a military force in any significant manner, apart from perhaps giving one forces wounded preferential medical treatment. However, the peacekeeping force should maintain for the most part a focus on aiding noncombatants. Were neutrality breached by the peacekeeping force, those responsible would be swiftly brought to justice. Nevertheless, the ICWA understands the United Internet's apprehensions about such a peacekeeping force, and welcomes suggestions for how to improve the concept.
  • Any given government can carry out humanitarian programs within its own borders and involving its own people; however, this is the extent of their power: a government-run humanitarian project cannot expand further without infringing upon the national sovereignty of others. Were the ICWA to support government-instituted humanitarian programs, it would be giving those governments preferential treatment at no benefit to any other nation, which is obviously unacceptable behaviour for a neutral international organization. NGOs, on the other hand, are not limited to the borders of a specific country, and may provide humanitarian aid in nations where the local government has not set up humanitarian programs of its own.
  • The ICWA commends the United Internet on this progressive approach to sharing scientific progress. The ICWA requests that the United Internet join it in creating a redundant secure backup server farm on which these data may be stored within the neutral confines of the ICWA headquarters, rather than hosting the information on any one nation's sovereign territory, where said nation maintains control over the entire repository of information.
The ICWA thanks the United Internet for all of its contributions towards the improvement of the ICWA and its goals.

Nations with delegates currently sitting on the council:

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The Republic of Nordlandia (temporary)
The People's Republic of Antarctica
The United Internet

Nations which have not yet responded:

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Constante
The Empiric Federation of The United Dominion of The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania
Confederation of Madura
Fudge
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:07 am UTC

The People's Republic of North Oceania fully supports the formation of ICWA and sent their best expert in international law, Kristina Rose, to Burj Khalifa in both to represents North Oceania's Interest as well as to further clarify North Oceania's recent actions in the neighbouring Ireland.

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(Kristian Rose will do her best to persuade those present in the Council of ICWA using her speech as well as her body :) )

North Oceania has one request and one concern regarding ICWA, and that is Dubai and its surrounding areas should be neutral grounds not only for neutrality's sake but also the protection of ICWA itself. North Oceania would also like to contribute troops for ICWA's future peacekeeping mission, should that become necessary.

North Oceania also questions what is the legal jurisdictions of ICWA; does it have legal rights to playing of "Une Directione's" music a crime against humanity? North Oceania also began playing musics of "Une Directione" towards those Antarctica troops on their blimps.

Intelligence gathered from North Oceania suggested that FLQ used Ireland as a base of operation due to it's proximity to North Oceania. In order to ensure the security of North Oceania from being attacked, North Oceania will continue to have military presence in the realms of Ireland in the foreseeable future. The People's Republic of North Oceania reassure Nordlandia's concern that no Irish citizen was harm in this military operation. In fact, The people of Ireland was impressed with North Oceania Amy's bravery and discipline in ridding the Irish homeland of the presence of terrorists (as well as brining a lot of business to the locals). North Oceania declared that they will be the protector of the Irish people, who had not yet reached nationhood, and will do so until they've reached to point of full-autonomy.

North Oceania against raise concern regarding where Antarctica stands in regards to terrorist groups such as "Front de libération du Québec". North Oceania is extremely suspicious of how a terrorist group could appear out of nowhere and army with heavy weaponry and military training. Evidence suggests that some powerful nations has been backing these terrorists seeking to destroy the great nation that is North Oceania. North Oceania will not stand by these underhanded tactics and will investigate until the supporter of these international terrorist is found.

North Oceania also found high level of lead in the water created by Antarctica's Water treatment plant in Waterford. It had seem that Antarctica's technology in water sanitation is lacking, as using lead pipes will cause harmful effects to those that drank the water. North Oceania quickly began to replaced the pipes and upgrade the facility so it meet 21st century drinking water standards.

With the disintegration of FLQ presences in Ireland, North Oceania still methodically scour the Land... it's troops takes slow strides and continues to occupy Iveragh, North & South Dunkerron, Bantry, Glanarought, West & East Muskerry, Barrett, Magunighy, Berrymore. It's aim is to head toward the City of Limerick.

Nordlandia:

Spoiler:
You've noticed that Ambassador Peter North has been very busy getting 'acquainted' with the People of Nordlandia. In fact Nordlandia has enjoyed a recent population boast, with lots of babies suddenly born to look a bit like Peter North. Never the less, the Ambassador states that his nation is willing to discuss a deal in how to divide up the lands in the two nation's proximity. In fact, North Oceania had bought up similar pacts with regards to Quebec, but was ignored by the government bodies of Nordlandia. El Presidente Simon Cowell wishes only peace between the two nations and hope we could work out a deal that is satisfactory between both parties.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:15 am UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:(I'm assuming here that the resources offered will more than offset what is needed to build the computers for Antarctica)

Presuming you value a completed computer over the raw materials required to make it, yes.
The United Internet will accept Antarctica's offer of internet in exchange for resources; given a few extra requests:
- The United Internet will need a small area in antarctica to set up a factory to produce the computers for the population; shipping them from other locations is both time-consuming and resource-consuming.

The United Internet can operate like a company by buying a volume (as an underground city cubic meterage is valued, not square) in a city and building a factory there. Antarctica is currently (and constantly) expanding its largest city, also the nexus of its largest mining operation. Antarctica could build a large factory within the city for free as a favor. UI citizens can live in Antarctica with all the rights of a full citizen except the rights to vote or become a politician in Antarctic politics.
- As for the supercomputer, you have two options. One, you get a physical supercomputer, big as a large hall, consumes lots of computing power, etc... OR we hardwire all of your nation's normal computers so that they will divert spare processing cycles to the government computations. The second option is likely to give you a lot more processing power to play with, but it will take longer to set up, since parallell and cloud-computer techniques are still under development. The second option would also mean that it will take longer to get new computers to your entire population.

Assuming the "OR" was a Boolean one and the "two options" was a mistake Antarctica would like to take the third option, a central physical computer as well as the spare processing power of all other computers.
Also, how are your policies on UI companies? Are they allowed inside your country, to, say, sell better access to those not living in major cities, better software and maybe some tech-support?

Summary of business practices in Antarctica:
The Antarctic government has a monopoly on most business in Antarctica; however, it is not a mandatory monopoly. Other businesses can and do ply their trade in the nation. The government has control over most commerce because it has mastered the economies of scale and because it is the only profit generating organization not to get taxed. If UI wishes it only needs to obtain a foreign business license (free) and it can act as it would in any other country. Providing higher tiers of access to the Antarcticans not living in City 0 or City 1 is most likely not economical, as they are ~9300 people scattered across much of the southern hemisphere.
The United Internet joins the ICWA.
The United Internet is happy to provide full free top-tier internet and tech-support to all of ICWA's employees and all delegates at the ICWA.

Antarctica would like to express its gratitude for UI's generosity.

Edit: This is the 3rd or 4th time Nylon' has ninja'd me. I'll address it in the morning.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:39 am UTC

The Republic of Nordlandia
National Bulletin


Terror Strikes!
Pirates sack Höfn!

Nordlandians today were shocked and outraged as reports came in that an attack by rogue pirates had occurred near dawn in southeastern fishing village of Hofn. Hofn, which has a population scant over 1000, is usually home to a small Coast Guard contingency, but several of its boats were out investigating a SOS signal from farther north up the coast, and those left behind did not have time or firepower to adequately counter the surprise attack.

Pirates hit the town's only two bank branches, Hofn Mutual Bank and the Bank of Iceland, a subsidiary of the Bank of Nordlandia, as well as the local federal building and town administrative building. Private homes were not looted, but significant vandalism and property damage occurred.

The attack was of lightning style. Pirates zoomed into the town on fast skiffs at dawn right before fisherman were due down at the docks and proceeded to storm up into the town, with a barrage of gunfire, shouting and other raider tactics used. They then proceeded to their relevant targets, looted as much as they could, and then made it back to the docks, where they sped off just as the police, coast guard and several armed citizens began to respond with retaliatory fire.

In all, only two people were injured, both from shrapnel, and were being treated in the local medical clinic. Their conditions are both stable and their injuries reported to be non-threatening.

It is not yet known who orchestrated this attack, although the Coast Guard, Navy and other agencies have launched a full investigation as well as preparing to possibly fend off future attacks. Chief Johann Grimsson expressed his anger and dismay at the attack, and assured the people of Hofn that Nordlandia will be with them and that the culprits would be brought to justice and their shores made safe again.

Although the people of Nordlandia are proud of their Viking Raider ancestry, they nonetheless do not take kindly to being the target of such actions in modern times. Although some have admitted fear or worry, many coastal villages have expressed a stony resolve not to submit to pirates. The Nordlandic flag flies high tonight.

(Will add more soon)

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Arlick » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:17 am UTC

((whoa, all that happened while i was asleep O.O gonna take a bit of a catch-up >.>))

The Jolly Roger Federation withdraws it's navy from the British Isles, confirming that minimal Irish people were harmed by the conflict.
The JRF gladly accepts Yui Hatano as an ambassador. However, JRF representatives would also second the motion of banning prolific playing of 'Une Directione', as the squealing of teenage girls is unbearable. JRF suggests that moderation of sound levels be an implemented strategy, however banning the use of Shock Collars to prevent the squealing. Use of a 'squeal-enabled sound proof building' is recommended to allow . Furthermore, representatives are looking into viable trade options as the recent oil venture was a success.

Due to the usage of petroleum in order to create plastics, the JRF would like to impose a global legislation requiring proper disposal and recycling of said plastics, as well as beginning research on bio-degradable plastics. The JRF would welcome any group of scientists from any nation to assist on the prjoect.

JRF would further support the formation of ICWA.

Given the recent attack on Nordlandia's banks by pirates, the JRF would like to enforce a banning of Extremist Piracy Groups, as well as claim responsibility for the eradication of such groups, and will offer reparations for the damage. The style of attack is known as an old army tactic, and will look into extremist possibilities of discharged members.

camo may read
Spoiler:
Spies are in place in North Oceania, operatives objectives to monitor nuclear research and troop movement specifically. Additionally, Yui Hatano will be kept under surveillance at all times, with communications intercepted at all times. North Oceania is not to be taken lightly.


International Affairs
Actions
-Offer of reparations to Nordlandia, as well as determining which group is responsible for the attack. More at 11
-Offering other nations to partake in researching cleaner methods of plastic production and recycling
-Withdraw naval units from British Isles. Congratulate NO on successful operation with minimal civilian casualties.

Plans
-Send scouting party to trace location of Pirate Extremists
-Determine an adequate ambassador for sending to NO.
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Internal Affairs
News update:
-Man arrested for attaching shock collar to 14y.o girl to prevent her squealing from sensational group 'Une DIrectione'. Other people appear to be following suit, causing a widespread search-and-rescue for affected teens. Reports say that Extremist Pirate group is somehow linked to the scandal.

Actions:
-moderate sound levels for 'Une Directione' and other boybands. Implement construction of large sound-proofed structures known as 'Squealing Houses' to allow for teenagers to annoy each other incessantly maintain freedom of speech.
-conduct research into soundwave-based weaponry (report titled 'Soundwave Weaponry - Are teenagers the next superweapon?')
-expand to Hokkaido. Should negotiations with indigenous locals fail, KILL THE NON-BELIEVERS colonize Hokkaido.

Plans:
-discuss possibility of full takeover of japanese islands. Potential for expansion into coastal china should discussions succeed.
-discuss use of propaganda to reduce likelihood of Extremists groups to attack other countries, keep army in line.

((also im fine with any map, though the Butterfly is easier to read IMO))
I have some questions, and by that I mean one. Is anyone else afraid of toasters?
Go easy on my spelling, I am slightly dyslexic.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:30 am UTC

Time to take care with some international stuff and whatever.
United Internet
Fudge would like to remind the UI that it is as advanced as the modern-day Japan and as such heavily relies on the Internet and its free body of knowledge. We also use supercomputing a lot. We like the Internet a bit too much, I presume. Fudge already has Internet, though it would be more than happy to cooperate with the United Internet.

North Oceania
Fudge believes that NO has other plans with the seductive bodies it holds in store. Argh. Fudge would remind NO that cooperation would be temporarily closed between our nations to make way for the incoming terrorism from MILF.

Antarctica
Fudge is more than happy to share technology and is more than grateful for the military support.
Classified, to douer:
Spoiler:
Fudge accepts to help Antarctica in its South Pole 1000 Kilometer Array Project and will be sending representatives. Fudge agrees to increase the peace treaty between our nations, and agrees with the mineral trade as Fudge is lacking minerals for supercomputer production and all.


ICWA
Fudge will be joining the ICWA and does completely approve and support all of Secretary Wong's suggestions.

Map
Fudge supports of the Waterman Butterfly projection.

Internal Affairs
Fudge has masses of nuclear power. (Fudge technology is as advanced as Japan) Fudge shall remain research on geothermal energy. Fudge's northward expansion shall stop temporarily, and shall first modernize and civilize all newly added territory to Fudge. Fudge has received alerts of terrorism regarding the Muslim-Indonesian Liberation Front or MILF, beginning to send terrorism threats to most non-muslim nations. Fudge forewarns and uses the Antarctic drones for defending its own territory.

Fudge will be expanding research on intelligence so that it can finally read all this spoilered conversation.

Classified:
Spoiler:
Fudge sends spies to NO, to find if their intents are as good as Fudge believes.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:45 pm UTC

Fréttablaðið (English: The Newspaper)
http://www.frettabladhidh.is

(If anyone's wondering, Iceland's premier newspaper really is just called "The Newspaper")

Piracy abounds in Southeast!
Fishing vessel attacked a week after the Hofn Incident!

Nordlandia's populace was appaled to learn today that just a week after the incident at Hofn, Pirates stormed and boarded a small fishing vessel in the waters off the small eastern village of Djúpivogur. Crewmembers from the boat report two fast skiffs sneaking up on them just before dawn and boarding the ship with three shots of gunfire. The intruders, their faces obscured by masks in the dark cabin, were quick to tie up the crew and proceeded to ransack the ship. What many find odd, however, is that the ship had nothing of significant value. 'Sure we had equiptment and fish and other personal effects on board," ship captain Helgi Freyrsdottir noted. "But nothing of traditional value like gold or money or other things you generally hear of pirates searching for". The bandits made off with several pieces of equiptment, as well as the boat's food and fuel, including the previous day's catch. "Perhaps this was for the publicity," Helgi offered as an explanation. "A way to make their mark that they are here to stay". The ship's crew suffered no injuries with the exception of Captain Helgi herself, who suffered a black eye after one of the pirates slapped her across the face after she managed to trip him and kick him in the face after having been tied up.

Captain Hilarius Hendrikson announced today on behalf of the Coast Guard that they would be diverting a strong contigent of ships to the Southeast both to ward off attacks and scour the coast for any signs of the bandits, which have yet to be identified.


International Affairs:

-Nordlandia thanks the JRF for their support in the face of obnoxious banditry. We do not know if they are "extremists" per say... they don't seem to have any agenda rather than harassing our fisherman and stealing from us, but they are a nuisance which must be stopped nonetheless. We have yet to determine their identities, although the area of Iceland has not had a problem with piracy in a long time (whether some Icelanders themselves reverted to their ancestral Raider heritage in the period before we were founded is a situation we decline to comment on) so we are unsure of them being any known established group. We are aware of several other areas in the world having piracy issues, but it's rare for such criminals to be orgaized enough to have a multi-branched operation that spreads as far as Iceland. Reparations are not neccessary nor expected, especially since you did not commit the act, but I suppose we'd really have no reason to turn down money should you offer it. You're welcome to collaborate with us on the investigation of piracy, although we must remind you that any operation occuring within our water must be conducted with our supervision and approval.

Communique to North Oceania: (any may read these for entertainment but in-game only NO has it, of course.
Spoiler:
Your Ambassador should be well aware that the people of Nordlandia are a tough stock, and not overly indulgent to the whims of a promiscuous English diplomat. Furthermore even if our populace chooses to indulge him once in a while (Nordlanders are often not shy about their own desires) it should be noted we up North are big on birth control and other protections. Although several women have expressed interest in discovering whether or not he could keep up his famed stamina if they took him out on a date to the nearby glacier.

In terms of splitting up lands in proximity to us both, we are willing to hold talks. Off the records, of course, because to openly pursue conquest would be bad PR. But privately and off the records, we can think of something. Either your ambassador to my leader or my ambassador to yours. Or a summit of some kind. Whatever works best. We would like to come to a cordial agreement with one of our closest neighbors, and I'm sure we can think of something.

We do see that diplomatic hijinks are in effect though, and as such Foreign Minister Inuk Qappik has appointed the notorious Loki Kasper as Ambassador to North Oceania. The young son of Nordlandic business magnate Mikael Kasper, Loki is known to be a rampant partier although, suprisingly, an extremely effective diplomat. The young diplomat has announced he will forgo the standard Foreign Ministry jet for his family's own private one on the ride to North Oceania, allegedly so his entourage can "Party it up like we're in a flying longhouse!". Once in London, Loki will be congiscent of addressing key Nordlandic diplomatic concerns, such as regional affairs between our nation and NO. Also notable amongst his entourage is his suprisingly mousy assistant, Laurie Petitjean, who immigrated to Nordlandia as a child from Quebec.


Intelligence Action:
Spoiler:
Accompanied with the new Ambassador is a team of Njosna Stofnun (Intelligence Service agents) who will be responsible for beginning intelligence activity and monitoring within North Oceania. In the meantime, the Svipinn Unit of the Ríkislögreglan (National Police) will be keeping an eye on NO nationals and embassy officials in Nordland.



Internal Matters:

-Work on several geothermal, hydroelectric, wind and solar power plants have begun in Greenland and Iceland. The purpose of such would be to power our nation and provide exceptional amounts of energy and heating at little environmental impact.

-Work on restoring and rebuilding roads in Nordlandia are also underway. In addition to roads, we want to make sure that things such as internet and phone lines can also travel with ease along these routes, and are easily accessible when needed.

-Work on increasing the connectability of people across the nation is underway, with special attention being paid to the internet. As an often snowbound people, Internet is important for domestic communication as well as entertainment, although we do stress the importance of our people also going outside.

-Nordlandic scientists continue to do research into biological and technological innovations. Education continues as normal. Nordlandic Scientists working on the space program have reported back with great enthusiasm, and one has even mentioned inspiration for the designs for several satellites and other independent projects for Nordlandia to undertake. The Ministry of Education has announced it will finance grants for a small number of students to be flown to the program site to intern with Nordlandic scientists working there.

-Work continues on the all-important economy. Banking and Technology (such as software and biotech) are rising industries, while Fishing remains a stable physical backbone. With stability returned, Nordlandia is returning to a promient place of tourism, largely for it's amazing natural beauties but also in part for the culture beginning to take foot.

-In response to recent Pirate attacks, the Nordlandian Military has announced that the Víkingasveitin (English: The Viking Squad) will be undergoing new training excercises on the southeastern coast of the country. Meanwhile, the Nordlenska Friðargæslan (The Nordlandic Crisis Response Unit) will be undergoing their own actitivies up in the Westfjords.

Intelligence Spoiler:
Spoiler:
NoCRU may be considered for a covert mission to evaluate the situation in Ireland if the government feels the need to.



Anyways, work on the Constitutional Convention continues. The Referendum is now being conducted in territories which may potentially join the Convention and become a part of the new Nordlandia. Results will be in soon. Meanwhile, the convention is being organized and ready to recieve it's representatives to the Council and Assembly in no time at all. Committees are being finalized recommendation-wise and Chief Johann is preparing to wrap up all business, after which, the morning before the Convention is set to convene, he will resign, the government be dissolved, the military and intelligence given operational autonomy, and a technocratic government installed for the duration of the convention and the subsequent ratification and adoption period (which I sort of plan to glaze over). Johann's ratings are high and although he has declined any leadership positions in the Convention, he is being sent as a representative by his home district.



If anybody has any business they'd like to conduct with Nordlandia, please let us know.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:27 pm UTC

Antarctica vehemently denies the allegations of involvement with terrorists that have been put forth by north oceania. Antarctica invites ICWA to send a neutral party to Antarctica, which will be shown the cities, military, finances, research bases, public records, and anything else that may be required to prove Antarctica's complete innocence. Antarctica encourages any and all nations that are innocent of human rights abuses to do the same.

Antarctica publicly announces it is sending secret agents into the British Isles to determine whether the FLQ exists, and whether north oceana is hiding any crimes from the international community.

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Antarctica offers to trade mature geothermal technology with Norlandia, in return for a small, uninhabited island from the Canadian arctic archipelago. Antarctica will also trade minerals and the rights to fish in the southern ocean, one of the richest fishing stocks in the world.

All of these are also offered in trade to any other nation.

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Antarctica has completed algae and yeast farming research, providing extremely cheap and nutritious food to all of its citizens for free.
Antarctica has started up its first nuclear generator after almost 2 decades of research.
Antarctica would like to discuss with UI, Fudge, and Madura, the possibility of slinging underwater cables from Antarctica's coast to the southern capes of South America, Africa, and Australia. The cables would include power cables and telecommunications cables, more closely connecting these great nations together.
Antarctica begins establishing research and military bases base on Praia, Ascension, and begins researching the possibility of establishing bases in other South Atlantic islands.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:36 pm UTC

bouer wrote:Antarctica offers to trade mature geothermal technology with Norlandia, in return for a small, uninhabited island from the Canadian arctic archipelago. Antarctica will also trade minerals and the rights to fish in the southern ocean, one of the richest fishing stocks in the world.


We have significantly advanced Geothermal technology (it being our main power source) but we would be interested in comparing and seeing if perhaps the Antarctican model is worth a shot at buying.

With relation to this small Canadian Island... are you asking for ownership or sovereignty? For what purpose?

In addition we will consider your offers for fishing rights as well as mineral trading. We are abundent in both resources and going to the polar opposite of the earth to retrieve them is somewhat daunting, but the fact that the minerals and fish stocks you possess is vastly different than ours may be a good incentive.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:02 pm UTC

Map.
Expansion in North Oceania and the Jolly Roger Federation added; Antarctican base in Tasmania expanded.

I can't find a blank Waterman Butterfly map, or a detailed one, but I made a Fuller map. Should I use the Fuller map or the original map for future updates?
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:52 pm UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:
bouer wrote:Antarctica offers to trade mature geothermal technology with Norlandia, in return for a small, uninhabited island from the Canadian arctic archipelago. Antarctica will also trade minerals and the rights to fish in the southern ocean, one of the richest fishing stocks in the world.


We have significantly advanced Geothermal technology (it being our main power source) but we would be interested in comparing and seeing if perhaps the Antarctican model is worth a shot at buying.

Antarctica is an underground nation, it has worked on geothermal for 2 decades, and collaborated with Fudge and Madura for years as well. Antarctic geothermal is excellent.
With relation to this small Canadian Island... are you asking for ownership or sovereignty? For what purpose?

Antarctica would be looking for sovereignty. The primary purpose would be to improve relations with Norlandia, Antarctica has established excellent relations with its fellow southern hemispheric nations, but has not yet had an opportunity to do so with the northernmost. Additional purposes would be for scientific research, to expedite trade, and to expand our vast telescope to the northern hemisphere. Meighen seems particularly apt, Axel Heiberg is only 40 kms away, and Meighen is on the outskirts of the archipelago, ensuring the purchase will not be intrusive.
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Also, I don't intend on any significant land claims in the northern hemisphere, but I would like at least a token piece of my home country. :D

In addition we will consider your offers for fishing rights as well as mineral trading. We are abundent in both resources and going to the polar opposite of the earth to retrieve them is somewhat daunting, but the fact that the minerals and fish stocks you possess is vastly different than ours may be a good incentive.

The prior inhabitants of Japan to the Jolly Roger Federation regularly sent fishing vessels to the Southern Ocean, it was profitable then and will likely be profitable now. If Norlandia has any other suggestions for trade Antarctica will be sure to consider them.

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The members of Antarctica's embassy to Norlandia will be sure to enjoy the festivities. They may not be as "integrated" into the culture as NO's embassador is, but they still claim great enjoyment. They particularly love Norlandia's continual warm weather.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:57 pm UTC

I have to wonder the timeframe here.
We should have some sort of rough time frame for how much time has passed. The two basic ways to measure time in a forum like this are either in real time (for instance, 1 day = 1 year) or in posts (for instance, 1 page = 1 year). We don't have to stick to it religiously, but it might be a good marker for technological advancement.


bouer wrote:Antarctica is an underground nation, it has worked on geothermal for 2 decades, and collaborated with Fudge and Madura for years as well. Antarctic geothermal is excellent.


Ah yes. Our own nation is quite proficient in geothermal energy, as well as hydropower, solar, wind and hydrogen fuel cell. We've been running such technology since the far reaches of the 20th century, and have used them pretty much exclusively since the 21st.

Of course, it's improved since then, but we may consider taking a look at yours as well. Some variety never hurts.


bouer wrote:Antarctica would be looking for sovereignty. The primary purpose would be to improve relations with Norlandia, Antarctica has established excellent relations with its fellow southern hemispheric nations, but has not yet had an opportunity to do so with the northernmost. Additional purposes would be for scientific research, to expedite trade, and to expand our vast telescope to the northern hemisphere. Meighen seems particularly apt, Axel Heiberg is only 40 kms away, and Meighen is on the outskirts of the archipelago, ensuring the purchase will not be intrusive.


Hm... perhaps we could do an island swap? A northern island for a southern one? If it makes things more comfortable we could lease sovereignty on a multi-year basis (somewhat along the lines of the treaty from Great Britain to return Hong Kong), in that we could lease sovereignty of the islands for a set amount of years (20, 30, 50, etc.) and at the end either renew, renegotiate or cancel. This would ease any fears of the long term. This would give us an opportunity as well to explore the south as you explore the north, as well as a base for any potential large scale trade between we two.

Is there anything in particular we could trade to Antarctica that you might be interesting? Or perhaps any joint research or projects? Admittedly, we have similar technology and similar environs, but we can also offer a rich fish stock, minerals, as well as financial services, biotech, medical, and other technologies. We may not be the industry leaders in everything, but we have built up our industries to good extents. We will definately look into your fish stocks and minerals as well.



Reykjavikians everywhere are preparing for one of the most prominent festivals of the year, the Reykjavik Music Festival. Sampling a wide variety of talents from Icelandic favorites to worldwide stars, this is going to be a festival to attract residents and visitors alike. Some highlights include prominent Icelandic band Rólegur, Villt Rosir singing cover's of classic Icelandic band Sigur Ros, Baden-Württemberg Germany's Stuttgart 5, and Laotian Noveau-Pop Star Mi-Miku singing her worldwide hit "Vientiane Boy". For a full list of activities, gigs and schedules please go to http://www.ReykjavikMusic.nl[/quote]

bouer wrote:The members of Antarctica's embassy to Norlandia will be sure to enjoy the festivities. They may not be as "integrated" into the culture as NO's embassador is, but they still claim great enjoyment. They particularly love Norlandia's continual warm weather.



He thinks himself more "integrated" than he may be. Nordlandians are very welcoming, though not pushovers.

Other nations are more than welcome to invite their own musical talents to attend the festival. We welcome a wide variety.

And yes, the weather in Reykjavik is rather warm, at least compared to Greenland. Once we even got to a staggering 26.2 C (79 F)!

Also in the Reykjavik Film festival will be light shows, including fireworks and the opulent lighting up of the Hallgrimskirkja.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:43 am UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:I have to wonder the timeframe here.
We should have some sort of rough time frame for how much time has passed. The two basic ways to measure time in a forum like this are either in real time (for instance, 1 day = 1 year) or in posts (for instance, 1 page = 1 year). We don't have to stick to it religiously, but it might be a good marker for technological advancement.
OP said 1 day = 1 year.
bouer wrote:Antarctica is an underground nation, it has worked on geothermal for 2 decades, and collaborated with Fudge and Madura for years as well. Antarctic geothermal is excellent.


Ah yes. Our own nation is quite proficient in geothermal energy, as well as hydropower, solar, wind and hydrogen fuel cell. We've been running such technology since the far reaches of the 20th century, and have used them pretty much exclusively since the 21st.

Of course, it's improved since then, but we may consider taking a look at yours as well. Some variety never hurts.


bouer wrote:Antarctica would be looking for sovereignty. The primary purpose would be to improve relations with Norlandia, Antarctica has established excellent relations with its fellow southern hemispheric nations, but has not yet had an opportunity to do so with the northernmost. Additional purposes would be for scientific research, to expedite trade, and to expand our vast telescope to the northern hemisphere. Meighen seems particularly apt, Axel Heiberg is only 40 kms away, and Meighen is on the outskirts of the archipelago, ensuring the purchase will not be intrusive.


Hm... perhaps we could do an island swap? A northern island for a southern one? If it makes things more comfortable we could lease sovereignty on a multi-year basis (somewhat along the lines of the treaty from Great Britain to return Hong Kong), in that we could lease sovereignty of the islands for a set amount of years (20, 30, 50, etc.) and at the end either renew, renegotiate or cancel. This would ease any fears of the long term. This would give us an opportunity as well to explore the south as you explore the north, as well as a base for any potential large scale trade between we two.

Antarctica would like to note that Norlandia does not currently have a claim on Meighen, Antarctica's offers of trading technology for the location were primarily a matter of courtesy. Antarctica does value Norlandia's friendship and will instead offer Smith Island, containing one of Antarctica's highest mountains as a gift.
Is there anything in particular we could trade to Antarctica that you might be interesting? Or perhaps any joint research or projects? Admittedly, we have similar technology and similar environs, but we can also offer a rich fish stock, minerals, as well as financial services, biotech, medical, and other technologies. We may not be the industry leaders in everything, but we have built up our industries to good extents. We will definately look into your fish stocks and minerals as well.

Antarctica has large amounts of Uranium, molybdenum, copper, and iron currently being mined near Ice. There is a gold and silver mine on the other side of the continent, and a few more iron mines around the coast.
The citizens of Antarctica are capable of high skilled labor because robots have taken all the menial tasks. Engineering, technicians, scientists, surgeons(operating with the help of robots), etc. Another nation could also lease some of our advanced robots, including ones for mining, surgery, and manufacturing. Military robots are currently not available for lease.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:24 am UTC

So far, the MILF currently plaguing Fudge is being nicely exterminated by the robot drones and are now completely destroyed. Hooray for Fudge!
Also, Fudge agrees with Antarctica in connecting with some cables. Our technology should be proficient enough for such an undertaking.
Fudge's years of agricultural research should prove useful in converting some old farms with our technology proficiency.
Fudge will now pursue research in robotics, planning to change some boring jobs into robot-controlled boring jobs.


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