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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:46 am UTC

North Oceania is both a parody of North Korea and George Orwell's fantastic 1984 nation.... called Oceania. Theoretically it controlled a third of the world, though through the book we can only actually confirm they controlled the general London area.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:55 am UTC

bouer wrote: I thought that as North Oceana is a parody of North Korea, the southernmost nation may as well oppose it. I hope you don't mind, Nylonathatep.


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Ofcourse not :) Althought I'm trying to work element of Nazi Germany into it. Switch Quebecois with Jew and you'll get the idea. I do hope that I don't offend any real Quebecois or anyone sensitive to the parody I've created :)


bouer wrote:Antarctica would like to remind the legitimate nations of the world that most modern nations and people consider punishing people for the actions of their ancestors extremely unethical.


Like the Palestinians, Israel, Turkey in respect the Kurds, or even Black American in respect to White Americans? North Oceania suggest that Antarctica should not meddle into the affairs of other nations.

bouer wrote:Antarctica is very concerned about climate change and the effect it might have on the the world, including the massive instability it would bring to the continent of Antarctica and any island nations, and as such suggests that the nations of the world should join together to form an "International Panel on Climate Change." Antarctica would be happy to increase it's own efforts at understanding climate change and share all information it has gathered.
Concerned people should have their minds put to rest by the fact Antarctica has detected no harmful effects to the continent caused by Antarctica's presence on it.
Concerned nations should have their minds put to rest by the fact that although Antarctica does have expansionist policies it respects the land claims of all legitimate countries and will not intrude on them.
Antarctica is not aware of any living entities beneath the ground it is currently excavating besides interesting, and harmless, microbes.


The Great People's Republic of North Oceania shares Antarctica's, as well as the rest of the world's concern regarding Global Warming and the effect it has on the Melting Ice Caps. That is why North Oceania demand representations on International Panel on Climate Change since current there's only one sitting member and that member is currently that greatest offender in regards to the disruption of Antarctica's ecology.

The spy network has moderate success in regards to Antarctica's recent activities. In one of the Antarctica's recently established science station it is requisites strange photos regarding Antarctica's scientific discoveries.

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It has sent back copies of such pictures to Citizen 53242 as well as a message saying that it must comply with North Oceania's demand to be acknowledge it as a nation, or these photos will be released to the public as evidence of Antarctica Occult worshipping within 24 hour real time. Ambassador Ron Jeremy suggest that it has other methods in which it'll force Antarctica's full compliance with the tyrannic will of the People's Republic of North Oceania!

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:00 am UTC

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New Map
Changes: Antarctican bases are added.
Note: This map only shows each nation's actual area of control. It does not show areas that a nation claims to be part of their territory, but has no control over.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:55 am UTC

I would like to request a nice Nordic color, or at least a more royal purple.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:33 am UTC

Madura requests to join the IPCC. Madura will allow embassies to be placed in its capital. Madura request observer status for the IPRO, as changes to the polar region could have worldwide effects. Madura would agree with Antarctica that a a country should not be punished for its ancestor misdeeds, especially if it was long ago. However, if those crimes carry on then it should be punished, and if in future the Quebecois use biological weapons the Madura will have no choice but to condemn such action in the strongest possible terms.

Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Phillipines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindano, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

A new colony crosses the Torres Strait from New Guinea and take Cape York. 1 year. (This is just the northernmost part of the cape, which is why it only take one year.)

An earthquake occurs measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, epicentre 2 miles from the town of Jemper. 1 person is killed by falling masonry, minor damage to properties occur.

Research into geothermal energy. (1 year). This will look at if it is easy, safe and cheap to generate electrify using heat from the earth. No geothermal power stations will be built during this period.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:42 pm UTC

Cousj001 wrote:Madura requests to join the IPCC. Madura will allow embassies to be placed in its capital. Madura request observer status for the IPRO, as changes to the polar region could have worldwide effects. Madura would agree with Antarctica that a a country should not be punished for its ancestor misdeeds, especially if it was long ago. However, if those crimes carry on then it should be punished, and if in future the Quebecois use biological weapons the Madura will have no choice but to condemn such action in the strongest possible terms.

Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Phillipines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindano, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

A new colony crosses the Torres Strait from New Guinea and take Cape York. 1 year. (This is just the northernmost part of the cape, which is why it only take one year.)

An earthquake occurs measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, epicentre 2 miles from the town of Jemper. 1 person is killed by falling masonry, minor damage to properties occur.

Research into geothermal energy. (1 year). This will look at if it is easy, safe and cheap to generate electrify using heat from the earth. No geothermal power stations will be built during this period.


Madura is accepted into the IPCC. Antarctica is pleased that Madura has accepted embassies. Madura is accepted as an observer nation of the IPRO.
As a sign of good faith, Antarctica offers all technologies and information obtained in its 6 years of research into geothermal energy.
Secure Message to Medura (will require at least 2 years of espionage for other nations to discover its contents)
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Antarctica is pleased to see Medura is expanding through peaceful means. Antarctica would like to suggest an agreement with Medura wherein Antarctica will have Madura's full support in any land claims south of 35 degrees south and Antarctica will give it's full support to any and all claims for islands in the Indian and Pacific oceans north of 35 degrees south made by Madura, and claims over mainland in Madura's vicinity, with the exceptions that Antarctica would like to claim Madagascar and is willing to uphold Madura's claim to the whole of the continent of Australia. Antarctica would also like to share any technologies other than nuclear (for fear messages might be intercepted) and engage in a peace treaty with Madura.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:01 pm UTC

Madura thanks Antarctica for the tech sharing. As a result, Madura is able to start building a geothermal power station immediately. Research continues into improving efficiency. Any improvements in this field will be shared with Antarctica as thanks.

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Madura accepts the treaty, with the addition that Madura will support Antarctica’s claim over the whole of New Zealand, both north and south of the 35th parallel.


Madura sends off a fleet of ship to explore. They will make contact with other nations and chart the oceans, to improve the quality of maps of the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:59 pm UTC

[officialcartographer]
New Map
Changes: The color of Nordlandia has been changed to the color of the blue in the flag of Iceland.
Expansion of Madura is added.
Note: This map only shows each nation's actual area of control. It does not show areas that a nation claims to be part of their territory, but has no control over.
Note: Mars has been temporarily removed. This is because the status of Mars is currently disputed, and no Earth nations have currently got any plans to visit Mars so its presence on the map is currently useless. It will be readded if there is any activity on Mars.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby orangedragonfire » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:50 pm UTC

The United Internet starts to collect funds for a manned space station for zero-g experiments; everybody who is interested in such a project being realised is asked to contribute as much as they think they can easily afford. Other nations are invited to join this project if they want to send people up to the station once is it finished.




The United Internet is happy to provide free internet in all countries that wish this. However, the free version only consists of internet-cafés with satellite connection, and rather crappy software. For better stuff (i.e. personal computers, laptops, high bandwidth cables, wifi, decent programs and a better internet browser than "Internet Viewer 10.0"), people will have to pay.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:03 pm UTC

Madura would like to make a small contribution to the manned space station project.

Madura is willing to trade for better computer products. Madura has coffee to trade, would this be of interest to the United Internet?

Items for export from Madura are coffee, tin, copper and rubber. Other items such as technology, gold, crude oil and diamonds will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:11 pm UTC

Antarctica would like to make a contribution to the space station as well, in related news, the primary part of the 1000 km telescope is 1/3 done and able to begin rudimentary activities. Further information on the telescope is available to other contributors to the space station project.
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The South Pole 1000 Kilometer Array
Massive project that has consumed more than half of Antarctica's total space budget for the last 5 years.
Has an array of 1024 radio receivers extending from the geographic south pole with a radius of 501 kilometers.
Has a core of 129 more densely packed larger radio receivers within a 38 kilometer radius of the south pole.
Will eventually include receivers capable of picking up microwave, infrared, visible, uv, and x-ray radiation at the pole.
Radio portion will be completed in 10 years.
Core will be completed in 25 years.

Antarctica is willing to give unrestricted access to all information obtained from the telescope to the United internet in exchange for a higher tier of internet. Antarctica looks forward to collaborating further with the United Internet and with other nations in regards to space and other projects that benefit all of humanity.

In other news Antarctica's population has increased. For the first 2 years it was increasing at the rate of 2% per year, for the past 3 years it has increased at the rate of 5% per year. The population is now at 132 932 people.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:13 pm UTC

Sorry my internet screwed up and I though it didn't send. So once I got my internet up again I resent it. Way to go United Internet, you ruin everything :D

Also, I double checked that my population growth is reasonable, let me know if you disagree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... rowth_rate

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:39 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:The United Internet starts to collect funds for a manned space station for zero-g experiments; everybody who is interested in such a project being realised is asked to contribute as much as they think they can easily afford. Other nations are invited to join this project if they want to send people up to the station once is it finished.

The United Internet is happy to provide free internet in all countries that wish this. However, the free version only consists of internet-cafés with satellite connection, and rather crappy software. For better stuff (i.e. personal computers, laptops, high bandwidth cables, wifi, decent programs and a better internet browser than "Internet Viewer 10.0"), people will have to pay.


Ambassador Sora Aio Praise United Internet's actions of giving everyone free internet. On behalf of The People's Republic of North Oceania, she would ask what United Internet current need for its space station project. North Oceania can contribute with its cheap and reliable slaves labour force and will gladly manufacture certain parts for the space station for free.

To dispel rumors of El Presidente's ill health, Simon Cowell made a recent public appearance on North Oceania's favourite TV show "North Oceania Got Talent". Simon Cowell giving a rousing speech to it's people, and afterwards gave himself a perfect score for his performance.

North Oceania also began to undergo huge excavation in a mine that had already been exhausted of its metals. No one besides people with the highest clearance are allowed within 3 km of the site. The perimeter was constantly patrolled and trespassers would be shot on sight. No planes where also allowed to fly near the site. On North Oceania's top secret files, the area is designated as Area 731.

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A team of North Oceania's top scientist was seen entering the area underground.
There is a layer of lead sheet underground to prevent the penetration of any attempt to scan the area using radar and similar technologies.

North Oceania is current conducting experiment of Nuclear Technology under Area 731.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby thecamoninja » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:44 am UTC

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Cousj001 wrote:Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Phillipines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindano, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

This seems like kind of a large amount of growth, absorbing essentially an entire nation, albeit over the course of four years. I'll say it's feasible, HOWEVER Madura will have to deal with separatists tensions sparked by a Filipino faction that opposed unification from the beginning. The size of the faction, and the actions they take, from political advocacy to straight up violent protest or even terrorism, will be determined by the Maduran government's sensitivity to Filipino issues and the perceived fairness of its rule. (So far you're not off to a great start: you misspelled "Philippines" and "Mindanao".)
((P.S. sorry I'm a bit late on this))
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:40 am UTC

thecamoninja wrote:[disputesettlement]
Cousj001 wrote:Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Phillipines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindano, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

This seems like kind of a large amount of growth, absorbing essentially an entire nation, albeit over the course of four years. I'll say it's feasible, HOWEVER Madura will have to deal with separatists tensions sparked by a Filipino faction that opposed unification from the beginning. The size of the faction, and the actions they take, from political advocacy to straight up violent protest or even terrorism, will be determined by the Maduran government's sensitivity to Filipino issues and the perceived fairness of its rule. (So far you're not off to a great start: you misspelled "Philippines" and "Mindanao".)
((P.S. sorry I'm a bit late on this))
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dispute settlement? I don't believe there ever was a dispute.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:35 pm UTC

thecamoninja wrote:[disputesettlement]
Cousj001 wrote:Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Philippines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindanao, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

This seems like kind of a large amount of growth, absorbing essentially an entire nation, albeit over the course of four years. I'll say it's feasible, HOWEVER Madura will have to deal with separatists tensions sparked by a Filipino faction that opposed unification from the beginning. The size of the faction, and the actions they take, from political advocacy to straight up violent protest or even terrorism, will be determined by the Maduran government's sensitivity to Filipino issues and the perceived fairness of its rule. (So far you're not off to a great start: you misspelled "Philippines" and "Mindanao".)
((P.S. sorry I'm a bit late on this))
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((The reason for this easy annexation is that to them they are basically just changing one set of overlords for another. However, if their previous overlords turn out to be not as defunct as first thought...))

The naval expedition exploring eastwards has discovered two new countries, the Caroline Matriarchy and the Kingdom of the Great and Wise Solomon, who are at war with each other, although there is not much fighting going on at the moment. Treaties are made with both of them, where neither will attack Madura. Madura will take no part in the conflict, and has placed an arms embargo on all Maduran companies, and would condemn anyone else supplying arms to either of the two countries.

The colony at Cape York is prospering and expands southwards.

Population growth rate is 2%. ((On population growth, I think 1-3% is reasonable without expansion. I think growth above 3% should have a reason attached, i.e. new medical technology reduces death rate, large scale immigration, baby boom.))

For the space project Madura is prepared to offer an equatorial site near the city of Sanggau.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:00 pm UTC

patzer wrote:
thecamoninja wrote:[disputesettlement]
Cousj001 wrote:Madura send a naval expedition to the Philippines. There is some confusion at first, but then the Philippines request to join Madura once they discover most Madurans speak English. Apparently they used to be protectorate of an English-speaking country, but that other country collapsed in a civil war. The Phillipines are added to Madura as 4 new districts: Mindano, Samar, Luzon and Sulu. This action takes 4 years, and will result in a population increase of 60000.

This seems like kind of a large amount of growth, absorbing essentially an entire nation, albeit over the course of four years. I'll say it's feasible, HOWEVER Madura will have to deal with separatists tensions sparked by a Filipino faction that opposed unification from the beginning. The size of the faction, and the actions they take, from political advocacy to straight up violent protest or even terrorism, will be determined by the Maduran government's sensitivity to Filipino issues and the perceived fairness of its rule. (So far you're not off to a great start: you misspelled "Philippines" and "Mindanao".)
((P.S. sorry I'm a bit late on this))
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dispute settlement? I don't believe there ever was a dispute.


I think thecamoninja is just trying to moderate the game and make sure we don't expand too fast.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:05 pm UTC

Nordlandia continues to watch and lie in wait for something interesting.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:09 pm UTC

Has Norlandia considered joining the International Polar Research Organization?

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:24 pm UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:Nordlandia continues to watch and lie in wait for something interesting.


The 24 hour ultimatum had passed. North Oceania sent detail of its report to the rest of the world's nations regarding discoveries that Antarctica had made regarding those strange, lovecraftian creatures that lies underneath its depths.

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Separately, North Oceania release the full dialogue between North Oceania and The Antarctica Republic. North Oceania concluded that The Antarctica Republic may take similar actions in regards to other nations, not recognizing their sovereignty despite meeting their definition of democracy to the letter.

North Oceania define a nation as "a community of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history. However, it can also refer to people who share a common territory and government (for example the inhabitants of a sovereign state) irrespective of their ethnic make-up; that is, a nation state."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation

North Oceania still awaits Nordlandia's reply regarding the Quebec proposal, and also extend the proposal to the United Internet. It will serve as a buffer zone so that all three countries can avoid future territorial conflict.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby orangedragonfire » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:23 pm UTC

(OOC: I'm not quite sure what the Quebec proposal is. I must have missed that part)


The United Internet share the plans for the space station with all the nations that have mentioned interest in the project. Any contribution is welcome; we will need funds, labor, materials and knowledge to pull of this great undertaking. That being said, the United Internet wishes also to point out that all contributions should follow basic considerations of human rights and ecological preservation. Going into space is not worth destroying our planet.
United Internet has also purchased a large area in Africa to launch all parts of the space station; and later manned missions to the station.


The United Internet is willing to negotiate with Madura for better internet access, hardware and software in exchange for technology; however this is a tentative offer that may change based on what technologies Madura can give.


The United Internet is highly amused by the pictures that Nordlandia posted, and they are quickly spread throughout the internet, often with funny captions. Lolmonsters become a meme.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:40 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:(OOC: I'm not quite sure what the Quebec proposal is. I must have missed that part)


No problems. Here it is again:

The Empiric Federation of The United Dominion of The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania seeks only to protect the right of Indigenous people, such is The Hurons, from further oppression from the Quebecois and furthermore recognized the right for the people of Hurons to claim the land known as Quebec. Due to the complexity of the colonization period, The Republic of North Oceania only seeks to speak on behalf of the Hurons in the international assembly.

The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania propose a solution to their non-dispute by have 1)neither party claim the land of Quebec, 2)actively dissuade any other nations from claiming the land of Quebec, 3)support the Huron people that is proven to be the original inhabitants of the land, and 4)furthermore foster The Huron's eventual Sovereignty and Nationhood within the lands of Quebec.The People's Republic of North Oceania also ask Nordlandia in joining their attempt in denouncing the evils of the Quebecois.

For clarity's sake, the Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania recognizes right of nations to exist in their former colonies such as 'United Internet" which is situated in Northern Ontario near James and Hudson's Bay as long as it supports the North Oceania's regime, especially towards the oppression of the Quebecois the people's democratic will and its government acting in the best interest of its people. On that note, the Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania does not recognize Quebecois as separate people since their origin is from France, their language and customs is no different then the French, as well as their unspeakable crime against humanity.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:24 pm UTC

After 7 years of research and 4 years of production Antarctica has vastly increased its robotic army. Autonomous, solar-powered blimps now patrol the Southern Ocean. With the Great Cape Research Bases project almost completed Antarctica is looking into making claims on all the unclaimed islands south of theses bases, that is; all islands south of 35 degrees south.

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This should liven up the game a bit.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:23 pm UTC

Game-Related:

With regards to the world map:
-Many thanks. Icelandic Blue is an awesome color.

With regards to moderatorships:
-I think an elected moderatorship (as well as perhaps appointed assistant mods) would be a good idea. Since thecamoninja has already de-facto taken on this role, I suggest we appoint him(?) to the position, replacing as necessary.

With regards to moderating:
-Generally it's a good idea to have moderators to settle disputes as well as to control Non-Player Countries/Entities (NPCs). This will allow us to interact fairly with the rest of the world around us while allowing us to be fair.

What Cousj pretty much did was say "I just walked into the Philippines and they liked me so now they've decided to let me take over". I might be willing to let it slip once, but it sets dangerous precedent (e.g. me just walking in and claiming all of Russia without doing anything because they're a Northern country).
We don't need to make every expansion or interaction a difficult one, but we should have people to decide balance.

My proposal is that when someone wants to interact with a non-player entity for a really serious reason (e.g. annexation) either the moderatorship or a neutral player (whose judgement can later be subject to mod change) take on the role of that NPC for all business purposes. Of course, people can moderate their own actions for smaller things (trade deals, interactions, embassies, etc.), but this gives some balance.

In the end we want to have a nice diverseness. Some weak and cooperative nations, some strong ones, some resiliant ones, some crazy ones, some peaceful ones... Some really organized and decently advanced nations, some tribal areas, some areas pretty much in de facto anarchy... a good diverse world.

I dunno if we want the whole world to be sort of weak and semi-organized like us right now or whether we want a few strongmen NPCs.

With regards to time:
-Do we have a basic time scale? A strict and stringent one might be too restrictive, but a general idea of how far each of us have advanced time-wise (keeping on the same overall schedule) might be good.

With Regards to Secret Activities:
Nylonathatep has mostly brought up this point because he's the only one currently with secret actitivies. Obviously, we need to let each other know out-of-game what we're doing (for purposes of knowing it exists), while at the same time realizing that this information cannot be publically used in-game (without being discovered first). I suggest a system where either we PM our project to the mod (if it's something we absolutely don't want the thread to read), or we just do something where we put our classified stuff with a spoiler (HFPE- Hidden from Public Eye) letting people know that this is happening, but that their in-game countries do not know it. Eventually we'll have to work out how spying on each other leads to us learning this info.

Just general guidelines. Regulating the heck out of a game makes it boring.


International Relations (Players)

Having already exchanged Embassies with Oceania, the Republic of Nordlandia would like to further exhange embassies (and ambassadors) with each nation, as well as secure diplomatic channels. With regards to the UI, we'd like to know whether you'd have a physical location for one of our embassies or whether it would just be a purely virtual connection? I suppose ditto with a potential embassy that you'd send to us.

We invite all nations to bring up any trade deals, diplomatic agreements, projects or any other kind of relevant connections that they would like to establish with us.

We would like to join work on the Space Station (and possibly associated projects such as Satellites), believing it to be a worthwhile endeavor, and we will contribute the necessary research and materials (or funds) relevant to maintaining our own stake.

We would like to join the IPRO as well as the IPCC, as these two matters greatly affect our own wellbeing.

With regards to the UIs offer for free internet Cafes, Chief Johann has decreed, pending approval from the Nordlandic Thing, that the UI will be able to set up Internet Cafes in our nation. While the government plans to eventually assure internet connection to all of our people as best possible, we will not currently be relying on the services of a foreign government. Private entities, however, will be allowed to work with you. All projects will, of course, be subject to Nordlandic law (unless of course you want to open an internet bank in your potential Embassy, which by definition is autonomous)

With regards to the Quebec Issue, Nordlandia will not currently be taking part in any sort of an effort. Current Foreign Ministry guidelines designate Quebec, as well as the rest of the Canadian region, as a vital region of interest with regards to Nordic cooperation, unity and confederation*. As a nation made up of people of both traditional European and Native American descents, we wish friendship on both the Quebecois, Huron and other peoples of Canada.


*Vital Nordic Regions of Interest, with regards especially to cooperation, unity and confederation, comprise the lands in the former nations of Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Ireland, Parts of Russia and the US States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island, as well as the Principality of Sealand. Consideration for addition to this classification are currently being reviewed for Oceania, other parts of Russia, several parts of Eastern Europe, and several of the more northern US states. United Internet is considered a special case because, while their primary territory (sovereign? or not?) is located in Canada, their population and culture is not explicitly Nordic.

International Relations (NPCs)

The Foreign Ministry of Nordlandia is coordinating to set up embassies or regional offices in Vital Nordic Regions of Interest. Although we realize, for instance, that Norway itself may or may not still be one coherent nation (to use as an example), due to diplomatic and financial constraints we will, in the case of a loosely-governed territory, set up an Embassy in a clear region of power and use it as our laison for many of the surrounding territories, tribes and groups. If a region is in fact a coherent nation, we will operate as a normal Embassy would.

As a part of and in light of the upcoming Constitutional Convention (see Internal Matters), several groups and individuals, under the guiding hand and leadership of the Foreign Ministry, have formed a commission to consider the possibility of inviting the Northern Islands of Canada, Svalbard, and all of the other Islands of Arctic (Russian ones, etc) to join our glorious Republic. Most of these Islands are sparsely inhabited and if anything most likely have local tribal governments at most.

A special delegation has been sent to confer with Santa Claus.

Internal Matters

As it has come to the attention of the people of Nordlandia, the commission for the Provisional Constitution of the Republic is soon set to come to an end, and the mandate to convene a Constitutional Council and Convention will be soon at hand.

At the creation of the rough state of Nordlandia several years ago our leaders, well versed in history, predicted that the country needed to get a feel for its needs, priorities, direction and values. Because of this, they explictly created the first constitution to be provisional. This Constitution would hack out a rough idea of what would be an agreeable government for all the people of this new nation--at least temporarily--until we had a feel for what we wanted, and needed, to incorporate permanently. So they set down the Provisional Constitution, along with a clause mandating that at the end of a certain period a new Convention, overseen by Council, be convened to draft a final and perfect (as far as possible) version of our Great Law.

Within the next few weeks work will begin to prepare the assembly of this process. All Nordlandians, at the basic level, will be given a chance to provide input, eventually culminating in their representatives to the Convention and the Council that oversees them. This body, later subject to vote, will decide the future structure of the government. They may decide to change it completely; they may decide to simply ratify the provisional as permanent. And, maybe, if some people succeed with their vision, more lands will soon join us.

In the meantime, an interim government (pretty much just the actual government agencies) will remain functional in order to carry out day-to-day activities and important projects, such as road updates, construction of hydroelectric and geothermal power sources, sanitation, internet, phone and postal connection, as well as police, protection, education and much more.

This is an exciting time to be up North. More information soon.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:42 pm UTC

Madura recognises Antarctica’s claims.

Madura's naval expeditions have travelled great distances, and explored much of the Pacific. Many of the nations are small, and happily enter into treaties with Madura. Madura sets up the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), states the following:
  • The are shall be a free trade area for all member states
  • Madura, as the pre-eminent naval power shall patrol the waters of the region to stop piracy.
  • A tsunami warning system shall be set up so warning can be given after an earthquake.

Member states are:
  • The Confederation of Madura
  • The Caroline Matriarchy
  • The Kingdom of the Great and Wise Solomon
  • The Clans of Caledonia
  • The Starbuck Empire
  • The Kingdom of Tonga and Fiji
  • The Democratic People's Republic of Hawaii
  • The Tuamotu Imperium

Additionally Madura will set up military bases on Wake Island, Tokelau Island, Rapa Island and Palmyra Island.

Plans were discussed to make this a full military alliance, but several members disagreed.


EDIT: having read the post above, which was posted while I was writing this, I'm scrapping all that, and changing the relations to something else.

Research into geothermal power has made power plants much more efficient, and allow them to be built on small scales and do not require very large changes in temperature to generate electricity. This has also led to improved heat pumps. The National Power Grid is made more decentralised so most places can now keep power even if an earthquake or volcanic eruption destroys power lines.

The Maduran military expands with the addition of seaplanes. Research is being done to improve in this area, including alternative sources of power.

The colony at Cape York is flourishing, and now covers the entire cape. It is accepted as a new district in the Parliament at the general election, at which Girisha Ozi ma Buru is accepted as the new Agamen.

The naval expedition to the west has discovered the island of Seylon, which appears to be uninhabited. It is therefore claimed on behalf on Madura. To the north contact is made with the Emperor Yong Zang Su of the Han Empire on the island of Taiwan. He claims the whole of the "Middle Kingdom", but there are indications that someone else rules that.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm UTC

I'm not saying you can't/shouldn't do that, I'm just saying that it should probably be subject to approval, as well as the occasional turn-down (not everything is easy).

This is obviously a casual game, but we have to work a little hard for it, no?

I think what you suggested was a reasonable proposal that at least some, if not all, of those nations would be inclined to look into.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Cousj001 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:32 pm UTC

I'll sort it out on Sunday, I've got to go to bed now, very busy day tomorrow.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Nylonathatep » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:47 pm UTC

With regard to secret project and similar activities, I can't claim credit for its creation.

Madura & Antarctica was the first to have secret activities: They have a land settlement compromise.

On that Note, I'll prefere Thecamoninja or a vote on how long it'll take for Oceania to research Nuclear Fusion.

I also think placing things in spoilers is sufficient for any similar secret activities. I trust everyone would play honestly in this game and placing things in spoilers makes it easier to keep track.


I'm also a bit concern about the passing of time since not everyone have a chance to respond/or take their turn.

I also would vote for Thecamoninja as moderator, and furthermore actually have an ingame prescences in the form of Speaker for the League of Nations. :)

I also don't mind Cousj recent land claim. Just be more mindful in the future.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby thecamoninja » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:02 pm UTC

The problem is that currently, the rules are quite ill-defined, because all we have to base them on are the OP, which is lacking in information, and the guy who posted it has disappeared. If I were actually properly moderating this game, I would probably make it a lot more structured and add some context/flavor of my own, but to step up and actually do that, I'd probably want to create a new thread, which I don't particularly fancy. If enough people want me to do that I can, but for now I'm happy to step in and make some comments on events to just keep everyone in line, mostly relating to territorial expansion and military conflict.
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:19 pm UTC

thecamoninja wrote:The problem is that currently, the rules are quite ill-defined, because all we have to base them on are the OP, which is lacking in information, and the guy who posted it has disappeared. If I were actually properly moderating this game, I would probably make it a lot more structured and add some context/flavor of my own, but to step up and actually do that, I'd probably want to create a new thread, which I don't particularly fancy. If enough people want me to do that I can, but for now I'm happy to step in and make some comments on events to just keep everyone in line, mostly relating to territorial expansion and military conflict.



In the absence of a leader, we shall appoint our own!

Well, not a leader. More a mediator.

I don't think we need a huge list of rules and regulations. But having some general guidelines to refer to and someone to handle them (you) would be a good idea. We can continue playing here, and eventually, when the time comes to move, we can.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:33 am UTC

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:47 pm UTC

I think having camo as a mod is a good idea. For secret messages I like the idea of putting them in spoilers, if a nation tells camo they are doing espionage then they can read the spoiler in a few days.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:43 am UTC

Fudge will be joining the game.

Country Name: Fudge
Government: A variation on a unitary deliberative democracy. Representatives from each region of Fudge are voted by every year for deliberating matters for the entire year. The central government, ruled by a president changing every four years, leads the deliberation.
Ruler: The current president is John Adams.
Location: South Africa
Capital City: Fudge City
Population: 505900 (as of January 2013 census)
Religion: 50% Atheist, 38% Christian, 11% Islam, 1% Other (as of September 2012 census)
Language: 100% Fudge and 98% English as official languages, 23% Arabic and 12% Spanish as optional languages. (as of September 2012 census)
Race: 30% South African, 25% Spanish, 24% French, 13% Arabic, 8% Other. (as of January 2013 census)
Army: 3% active service, 5% serve as required. The Fudge Army is not particularly powerful, but is enough to defend itself against invasion.
Anything More: Fudge is a particularly peaceful country that prefers to become economically and technologically advanced. About as advanced as the 2010 Japan. Is interested in going to space. Is interested in computational advancement.

Wikipedia-style Summary:
Spoiler:
The Republic of Fudge
Dros Unidos no Fudge
Motto: Fudge! (English: Advancement!)
Anthem: Dros Fuge no Fudge (English: The Song of Fudge)
Capital: Fudge City
Largest City: Fudge City
Official Languages: Fudge, English
Optional Languages: Arabic, Spanish
Ethnic Groups: 30% South African, 25% Spanish, 24% French, 13% Arabic, 8% Other
Demonym: Fudge
Government: Unitary deliberative democracy.
President: John Adams
Legislature: Dros Boraldo Decido no Fudge (English: The Fudge Decision Board)
Area: 1,221,037 km2
Population: 505,900
GDP: $4.779 billion
Gini: 17
HDI: 0.953
Currency: Fudge dollar
Time Zone: FGEST (UTC+2)
Internet TLD: .fg


Fudge will join the League of Nations. Fudge recommends that we have some sort of system in order to track the current decisions majorly affecting the course of the game. Fudge would recommend a wiki.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby bouer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:41 am UTC

Antarctica welcomes the nation of Fudge. Antarctica would like to exchange embassies with Fudge.
Antarctica currently operates a research base at the southernmost tip of Africa. While Antarctica was unaware of any nations existence in the area at the time the base was opened, now that it knows of a nation in the area Antarctica releases all claim to that area. Antarctica would like to inquire about the possibility of buying about 12 square kilometers of land on the cape, stretching 5 kilometers north of the southernmost part of the continent, to continue research. area. Antarctica would also like to affirm that it supports Fudge's claim to the area, and denies the so called "Great Empiric Federation of The United Dominion of The Democratic People’s Republic of North Oceania's" claim, as Antarctica has denied that entity's claims over Australia, Western Antarctica, North America, India, Ireland, and all other areas.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:37 pm UTC

Fudge accepts the offer, with the provided agreement that this be expanded to a Fudge-Antarctic research station with triple the size, where the information will be used by both our contries. Fudge believes that the combined effort will allow much faster progress between the nations concerned. There will be no cost: this area will be used by both Fudge and Antarctica.

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby cjquines » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:51 pm UTC

Mobile devices push small buttons badly.

Actions
Invests in architectural research
Invests in geothermal research
Small investment in space research
Small investment in agriculture
Small investment in education

Make John Adams deliver pep talk to increase employment rates
Accepts Antarctica's offer with our conditions
Increase population

Plans
Territorial expansion of southern Africa and eventually Africa
Cooperate with Antarctica to go to Mars, using space research
Develop a compromise between agriculture and architecture
Develop much more efficient education
Switch entirely to clean sustainable energy

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:01 pm UTC

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Arlick » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:46 am UTC

Jolly Roger Federation wishes to participate!

Country Name: Jolly Roger Federation

Government: Monarchy with parliamentary council voted in by the public - 11 members of council, 1 from each province. 1 King/Queen to maintain equality among the council members. In (not so) rare cases of hung parliaments (i.e. when one of the members has died) the king or queen decides on the verdict

Rulership determined by previous king/queen from a member of the council, and will continue to rule until they die. Council elections are every 6 years, however the average lifespan of a council member is dramatically shortened by the cut-throat nature of politics.

Ruler: King Franklin the not so Rushed.

Location: Honshu, Japan.
Capital City: Red-King's Port (Osaka)

Population: 345,621

Religion: Poseidon 80%, Other 20%(Christian, Atheist, Hindu, etc.)

Race: Asian 60%, European 25%, African 10%, Other 5%

Army: 40% of population (Strong navy - 20% population) (Weak landlubbers 5% population) (weak-moderate airforce 15% population)

Anything More:
High focus on trading with other countries - may attack trading lines if negotiations fail.
Majority of energy comes from hydroelectric/geothermal supplies with research into nuclear power being discussed.
Limited agricultural ability - relies mostly on imports. Large fishing industry and export.
Majority of population are pirates, and know how to navigate a ship. 2 years of mandatory service to one or more of navy, landlubbers or airforce.

Plans:
Open trade relations possibilty with Madura.
Accept/decline pending invitations from other countries.
Work on flood/quake prevention infrastructure

[No complaints I hope? I'll make an action next post]
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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby patzer » Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:23 am UTC

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Re: Create Your Own Nation

Postby Djehutynakht » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:15 am UTC

The Unified Arctic Group, a group of lobbyists, Thing Representatives and other influential people under the leadership of the Foreign Ministry has made significant progress in convincing the people of the northern Canadian islands, Svalbard and other similar islands in and near the Arctic Circle. The low population, remoteness and otherwise non-committal to other nations has taken great strides in convincing the local populaces to join under the new Constitution along with promises of what being part of a larger federation would be able to benefit them.

Votes will be taken in respective villages on whether or not to join the Federation. Should they accept, Provisions will be made to allow them to send representatives to the new Constitutional Convention.

In all honesty this will make me look bigger on paper rather than really raise my population.


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