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by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:52 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

I don't know, I'm probably disqualified from really fully taking a position in this question, as I don't really think democracy bootstrapping more democracy is an ideal way to set up a society in the first place. (note: Copper Bezel - did you get a notice that you were quoted here? Enquiring minds w...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:19 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

Ah, fair enough.
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:55 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

And it might not be true; it might be only that depending on the nature of the question, we want to interpret "will of the people" in the manner most advantageous to ourselves. I don't agree with Pfhorrest that we can assume any predefined space of individual rights that are off the legis...
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:42 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

But how we interpret the "will of the people" really does seem to vary depending on the nature of the question being asked.
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:14 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1847: "Dubious Study"
Replies: 28
Views: 6830

Re: 1847: "Dubious Study"

I still want to know what a liberal bias across academics and industry would even mean. Seems far more likely to me that liberals have an academic "bias".
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:11 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

I do think there's a difference between cases where it's considered a moral judgement and cases where it's a persistent structural difference of interests. In the latter case, there's almost always going to be a compromise position possible, and that's what people generally end up trying to seek out...
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:27 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1847: "Dubious Study"
Replies: 28
Views: 6830

Re: 1847: "Dubious Study"

Quite so.
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:41 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1847: "Dubious Study"
Replies: 28
Views: 6830

Re: 1847: "Dubious Study"

It's really not, and you're just appealing to the golden mean fallacy. The fact that you have two interests shouting at one another does not mean that the compromise position is automatically correct. Nor does it mean that the two groups can't share a whole host of other biases that may well be more...
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:02 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1847: "Dubious Study"
Replies: 28
Views: 6830

Re: 1847: "Dubious Study"

Founder Joseph Zanga has described it as a group "with Judeo-Christian, traditional values that is open to pediatric medical professionals of all religions" provided that they "hold true to the group's core beliefs: that life begins at conception; and that the traditional family unit...
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:55 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

Yeah, all that really represents is the fact that "tyranny of the majority" is not limited to problems we can resolve by assigning and protecting individual rights. If time-share is the only available compromise, but somehow also has no switchover cost, great, we'll go with that. Systems o...
by Copper Bezel
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:32 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1847: "Dubious Study"
Replies: 28
Views: 6830

Re: 1847: "Dubious Study"

Oh, wow. It's like the generic-named nonprofits used to give authentic-sounding endorsements for things, but on another level again. Yuck. = [
by Copper Bezel
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:42 am UTC
Forum: Religious Wars
Topic: Firefox vs. Chrome: Is it time for me to throw in the towel?
Replies: 42
Views: 37736

Re: Firefox vs. Chrome: Is it time for me to throw in the towel?

I just discovered vertical tree tabs. Firefox supports them through extensions. Chrome doesn't allow extensions to remove the tab bar. I'm apparently using Firefox now.
by Copper Bezel
Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0903: "Extended Mind"
Replies: 666
Views: 184630

Re: 0903: "Extended Mind"

True, presumably they must be arguing about argument as a practice or concept, rather than as an article. I think arguments about individual arguments - and thereby a lot of edit wars in practice - are likely meta-arguments in a sense that is true but not funny, in any case where the editors disagre...
by Copper Bezel
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:02 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0903: "Extended Mind"
Replies: 666
Views: 184630

Re: 0903: "Extended Mind"

orthogon wrote:
Lothario O'Leary wrote:an edit war at "argument"

A meta-argument?

Ba-dum TISH

Edit: Unsurprisingly, use-mention distinction gets you back to philosophy pretty quick. XD
by Copper Bezel
Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:18 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?
Replies: 35
Views: 9993

Re: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?

Perhaps I am over sensitive on that point. I have a young child who visits my household and I have to constantly remind her parents that my 12 year old pet is a dog. My dog is old and the child has almost been bitten twice. Yeah, that's fair. There's a real danger to anthropomorphizing too much or ...
by Copper Bezel
Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:08 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?
Replies: 35
Views: 9993

Re: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?

I'm aware of the studies showing that dog shame is really just submissive behavior, for instance, which are as much about the human tendency to anthropomorphize as they are about dogs. I think "real" morality implies a fairly advanced theory of mind. Just following the perceived "rule...
by Copper Bezel
Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:52 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1845: "State Word Map"
Replies: 53
Views: 12977

Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Look at the two examples of real charts posted in this thread. Now look at any of Randall's infographics. Now look back. Those charts are not his charts. But they can smell like informative content with the right ... wait, what am I doing? Seriously, Randall clearly loves doing insightful, interesti...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:09 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

You'd literally have a stock market for voting power, at least in terms of the rooms full of people watching complicated charts on multimonitor rigs, graphs in the newspaper, daily numbers on the radio, and people getting live-updating tracker apps for their phones. I don't really know if that's a g...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:48 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?
Replies: 35
Views: 9993

Re: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?

That actually might be the reason, come to think of it. If my computer misbehaves, I fundamentally know it's a simple fault, regardless of how frustrating it might be. There's no meaning to a non-domesticated animal "misbehaving", it's a non sequitur. But when Attenborough poops on my bed ...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:25 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1845: "State Word Map"
Replies: 53
Views: 12977

Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one . So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches. I think it's only low-visibility if you're not a map and data nerd. (Which is to say, yes probably low overall, but pretty common in Randall's own circles.)...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:14 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?
Replies: 35
Views: 9993

Re: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?

How many positive responses do you think you would get to a similar question like "Are {insert animal here}s different from other animals?" To be fair, I think (self-knowledge being of course a bitch) that my subconscious is pretty convinced that cats aren't "animals" either, be...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:53 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1845: "State Word Map"
Replies: 53
Views: 12977

Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:26 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1845: "State Word Map"
Replies: 53
Views: 12977

Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Not Iowa, though, that's just silly.
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:12 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

Yeah, if we get into heater design, that's a whole other set of less interesting questions that apply equally to all types of heating elements. The question was in the (nonexistent) difference between a GPU and a big resistor coil all other things held equal. Though I suppose the GPUs may be bulkier...
by Copper Bezel
Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:22 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?
Replies: 35
Views: 9993

Re: Why do humans see themselves as different from animals?

Do you mean statistics for whether or not people consider themselves animals, or something else?
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Miscellaneous language questions
Replies: 590
Views: 123332

Re: Miscellaneous language questions

Oh, wow, yeah, checking out a YouTube video, it really does sound like stop consonants and glides in there. Sort of a "wow-wowp".
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:25 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

Yeah, that's a good point; I was thinking about the attenuation of the sound, then considered that it probably all had to do with the square of the distance thing and that the vibration really might "escape", and didn't think about the fact that sounds can be, you know, muffled.
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:24 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

Vanishingly little, though. Like, it appears that 2-3 watts of sound is equivalent to a lawn mower engine.

Edit: And it still ends up as heat somewhere, of course, but probably not somewhere useful.
by Copper Bezel
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:16 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Regional Dialect and Idiolect Oddities (pronunciation)
Replies: 944
Views: 287641

Re: Regional Dialect and Idiolect Oddities (pronunciation)

Wiktionary seems to indicate that's roughly standard, US "idea" as /aɪˈdiə/ , RP "dear" as /dɪə/ . I honestly never noticed how odd that little diphthong is but do the same thing. For some reason it seems to either get emphasized out into two full syllables or have the /i/ reduce...
by Copper Bezel
Wed May 31, 2017 7:47 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

The innovation of star voting is that the runoff step gives voters an incentive to spread their ratings out across the range, which means the resulting score totals should be a more honest reflection of voter opinions. Ah, gotcha. I know very little about voting systems, but that sounded broken to ...
by Copper Bezel
Wed May 31, 2017 6:53 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Regional Dialect and Idiolect Oddities (pronunciation)
Replies: 944
Views: 287641

Re: Regional Dialect and Idiolect Oddities (pronunciation)

/pɪ 'kɑːn/ here, central US Midwest, I think.
by Copper Bezel
Wed May 31, 2017 6:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1844: "Voting Systems"
Replies: 83
Views: 14971

Re: 1844: "Voting Systems"

Cueball knows what’s up, approval voting is *way* better than IRV, and Condorcet methods are generally better as well. There’s a new method being proposed in Oregon called “star voting” (aka. score-runoff) where you rate each candidate on a 0–5 scale (like website reviews) and the 2 highest-scoring...
by Copper Bezel
Wed May 31, 2017 6:06 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

Isn't the energy lost from converting AC to DC the thing that makes power bricks and PSUs warm? Couldn't you just put the PSU inside the heater? Yeah, what's the point of an IoT device that doesn't have gaping security holes? If it isn't possible for someone to remotely burn your house down with thi...
by Copper Bezel
Tue May 30, 2017 5:15 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1843: "Opening Crawl"
Replies: 19
Views: 5440

Re: 1843: "Opening Crawl"

Seriously, though, I probably gave you one of the big two reasons for me to still use it, i.e. "telnet http://www.dodgyserver.cz 80", or 8080 or 8000 or..., then something like "GET /shared/docs/banknamelogin.html HTTP/1.1 <enter><enter>" (then again with a HOST: line, etc), to ...
by Copper Bezel
Tue May 30, 2017 11:30 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

And you'd have to keep it expensive, else your free electricity scheme turns into people junking your "heaters" for their juicy GPU innards. Plus, you need to connect to the user's WiFi, so you're not losing everything you're making in cellular data bills. Easiest way to do that is to ask ...
by Copper Bezel
Tue May 30, 2017 11:12 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1843: "Opening Crawl"
Replies: 19
Views: 5440

Re: 1843: "Opening Crawl"

Oh, I wasn't trying and failing to follow the instructions, I was just dorking about the so-obvious-it's-unstated assumption of Windows. And yeah, I misread something about [my generic desktop Linux system] not coming with a telnet server by default as referring to the client . Having actually now t...
by Copper Bezel
Tue May 30, 2017 4:32 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1843: "Opening Crawl"
Replies: 19
Views: 5440

Re: 1843: "Opening Crawl"

If I press Super, type cmd, and press Enter, I do get a terminal. Though I suppose they did specify the "Start menu". And I would then need to install telnet things to actually do anything from there.
by Copper Bezel
Tue May 30, 2017 4:21 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

Yes, but if one were designing a heater, could one get more heat per input watt by not computing? No. All electric heaters are equally 100% efficient. If there's no energy being transmitted away, and no energy stored, then all energy consumed must be released as heat, because that is the only other...
by Copper Bezel
Mon May 29, 2017 3:04 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Superconducting CPU?
Replies: 66
Views: 13008

Re: Superconducting CPU?

But we absolutely can. Remote the display and wireless communication so you're not losing anything to radiation that might get out of the room, and a computer is a 100% efficient heater, as all electrical devices are if you follow the chain long enough. The useful computation absolutely is spending ...

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