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by Krong
Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:04 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32766
Views: 2561187

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Necro-Cultia: Guessed wrong about dim's intentions. Oh well. Sucks to be dim... I'm not sure why the game is still going, unless BN didn't cop correctly. * BN copped Vytron (was very clear he would, at least) * Cop result is confirmed correct by lack of counterclaims, will contin...
by Krong
Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:31 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

Not going to vote in case you guys need more time to figure stuff out, but I say we lynch cjdrum (obvious reasons, and at worst a 50% chance of cult anyway). If dimochka is scum, real-wizard shoots dimochka. If not, IMO dimochka should shoot mpolo. In either case, do not withhold, because it hurts o...
by Krong
Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:50 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

(not to mention that it would be an incredibly bold scum move - it wouldn't even win the game for them, just put it off a day). Are we sure it wouldn't? Maybe all they need to do is get a single recruit on the wizard to eliminate that power and they're playing for a counterclaim. If cult has three ...
by Krong
Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:09 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

Hold on. It is in no way guaranteed that 2/3 of Adam H/Krong/cjdrum are scum. If dimochka is lying, then it's 1/3 (assuming no failed recruits.) And then one of those is our Wizard who we NEED to keep alive (and possibly unclaimed) to have any chance at all. A 2/3 chance gamble would be great right ...
by Krong
Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:08 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

EBWOP: mpolo has claimed he was made cleric last night. I have made no secret of thinking him scummy, and suspect that he's lying now -- he's claiming before we asked for it, and with a very convenient draw-out-the-power-role claim. My question is: Do we benefit from asking for counterclaims at this...
by Krong
Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:42 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

Player-by-player posting analysis time. Been a long time since I've done one of these! Let's start with the most interesting player no one's talking about: lynx. Because we know lynx was an original cultist, maybe there will be something useful there. Then I'll go in alphabetical order, skipping the...
by Krong
Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:08 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

OK, time for a medium post, then a long post. I purposely ignored Vytron's arguments against me because (1) they were weak, (2) I didn't see any agreement with him at the time, and (3) I can't recall ever having had success in convincing him of anything (even facts like "this is what I said, he...
by Krong
Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:14 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D3: One Down

So... I suppose this is the part of the game where everyone accuses everyone else who is not confirmed town? That seems to be the extent of the usefulness of a lot of posts so far, or at least (IMO) the ones accusing me :) Vytron: I'm tired of you ignoring what I say. Answer the damn dimochka questi...
by Krong
Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:18 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D2: Death of a Butcher

(This might be my last post of the day... going to be pretty busy this weekend.) First: I am really struggling to see where this THDL wagon came from, and I would tend to believe him. If it's a choice between killing mpolo and THDL, I'm coming down on the side of killing mpolo. Also, just to get it ...
by Krong
Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:36 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D2: Death of a Butcher

Hmm... that seemed like a fairly decent defense to me. One thing you brought up: (3) I've done a bit of thinking on this., but I haven't done the math out fully either. In an open setup, a mass claim with 1-2 confirmed (by copping) VTs and the power roles gives town an informed majority, which is a ...
by Krong
Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:49 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32766
Views: 2561187

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Necro-Cultia: We've got 3 culties against 8 townies, and only lynx is getting a bit of pressure (and that's for some serious lurk issues, which can be remedied -- come on, lynx!) BigNose obviously didn't cop any of us. So I'd say things are going swimmingly, knock on wood. I ...
by Krong
Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:43 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D2: Death of a Butcher

That if we can second-guess who the cult recruited last day we can kill their recruitee the next day. This is not unlike the doctor trying to predict who the mafia will night kill. OK, I agree in principle, except that in a typical game of Mafia, if the town lynched successfully as often as a docto...
by Krong
Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:02 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D2: Death of a Butcher

We should underline kill suggestions (and should have been D1, if we were thinking) for the same reason that we should decide on a lynch with maybe 2 days until deadline : It gives the target a chance to claim. It is much more important to do that in this game than a typical mafia game, because: &s...
by Krong
Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:06 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win

Yeah, in retrospect I was really uncomfortable about lynching Vytron and I really should have stuck to my guns and gone for freezeblade; at least freezeblade's flip would "confirm" me as paranoid/insane. Forgot about that as well, though I have no idea what we would have thought of mpolo ...
by Krong
Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Pope to Leave his post at the end of the month
Replies: 84
Views: 16301

Re: The Pope to Leave his post at the end of the month

On a less flippant note, this rather dramatic change right after JPII's relatively liberal leadership does suggest the Catholic Church is on at least a bit of a liberal swing, which I'm all for. Not that I ever expect them to be liberal , but there's long ways towards reasonable they can go before ...
by Krong
Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:20 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win

Diemo definitely did deserve the win, especially since he was flying solo for so damn long. Congrats! Madge: The one clue I realized we totally missed? Diemo claimed Doctor, and then we had wam flip doctor. That right there should have been enough to wake us up. Although... I think he totally missed...
by Krong
Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:33 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta discussion
Replies: 1414
Views: 242112

Re: Meta discussion

Just throwing out this idea for a 3 player game: The setup is randomly picked between: ⋅ 1 VT, 1 daycop, 1 mafia ⋅ 2 VT, 1 mafia ⋅ 2 VT, 1 mafia who is told that there is no daycop Seems like there could be a day's worth of semi-interesting discussion out of that. ...
by Krong
Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D1: Contamination

Vytron, I had a big long post written up for you about the cleric strategy, but I think cjdrum's right that we should quiet down. So I'll just end it with this: I think that Vytron is only thinking about minimizing the chance that the elder is recruited. But this is NOT a big deal AT ALL. It isn't? ...
by Krong
Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:34 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Pre-sign-up queue (for MODS)
Replies: 1389
Views: 249771

Re: Pre-sign-up queue (for MODS)

Cancelling Dollhouse Mafia due to lack of signups. I'll shoot Misnomer a PM to let him know he's up. Please include the mod name next to the game name. Italics indicate the game is in sign-ups Underlined indicates the game is playing All games have a maximum sign-up period of one week. After that e...
by Krong
Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:32 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Sign-ups (for PLAYERS)
Replies: 7487
Views: 819385

Re: Sign-ups (for PLAYERS)

I'm going to cancel Dollhouse Mafia -- it's been in signups for the week limit and hasn't gotten close to the number of players we'd like to run it with. (Also, I'm not sure I would have the time to run it well, and I'd rather try again several months from now than give you guys a half-assed game n...
by Krong
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:18 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32766
Views: 2561187

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Chairman Mao, pre-spoiler-reading: Inb4 "I told you so" from Vytron. Vytron, I can tell you have a lot of experience with Mafia games, and you are very convinced in your instincts and strategic choices. However, you do not do a good job of explaining these. So I'm left with seeing a do...
by Krong
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:04 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D1: Contamination

Vytron, I think you're still missing the point of the cleric-protects-the-elder strategy. We're giving up any chance for the Cleric to block the recruit -- that is correct. But that chance is currently 1/11, plus whatever insights the cleric has, so it's not much of a chance. What we gain is what's ...
by Krong
Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:47 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D1: Contamination

I am not the Elder. Vytron, a claim of "maybe I'm Elder" is utterly useless... especially because there are strong tones of "but I'm not really the Elder" in everything you say :P. Saying "maybe" means that the hidden cleric can't know who's a good target. Saying "...
by Krong
Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Madge said she wouldn't be online for much longer before the deadline, so I had to make a decision now. Vote: Vytron It might actually be too late for Madge to get back... if that's the case... I don't know. But freezeblade, while I think he's playing in a very unhelpful manner, has claimed, at leas...
by Krong
Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:57 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

If it's between you and me, from my POV, even if you are town, lynching you is no worse than lynching me. And I need to know if you are town or scum. If you are town then I'd think the scum left is indeed freezeblade and Madge, as a matter of elimination. But if you're scum we'd probably only have ...
by Krong
Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:03 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Claims that he won't use his double vote again unless he is asked to. -2 townie. A townie should trust their reads. Also, he used it on me without anyone asking him too. Read: OMGUS. No, this is a very good point. Look at yesterday when he threatened to use his ability on Madge several hours before...
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:23 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Freezeblade's claim is believable, and at the same time quite fakeable. Has mason chat been active, or just a few posts per day? (That would make a difference on how much we can trust townie vibes from the mason chat.) Maybe two to three posts per person per day? It's been active. Vytron: You are o...
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:40 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Misunderstandings
Replies: 141
Views: 10372

Re: Misunderstandings

That seems highly unlikely. Zelda doesn't do much singing in any of the games.
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:32 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Abridged Debate
Replies: 1185
Views: 147479

Re: Abridged Debate

Finally summing up by posting made up personal experience on how the argument affects him on a personal level to justify the continual discussion and his position in the argument... Drops in to provide a clever overused quip about anecdotes, making self feel intellectually superior but failing to c...
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:24 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32766
Views: 2561187

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Comrade Mao: We are discussing in mason chat why it is that Vytron said this: You were specifically told No Comment to your question about the alignment of the mason-chat group when those were the exact words and capitalization used by the mods in answering our questions. It feels very fishy, but it...
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:15 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D1: Contamination

Man, I read through that old thread and can't help but think "How did I have so much time to post so much back then..." Also, BigNose, please don't get into personal fights again this time... Anyway, the main thing I got out of it, especially with the Day of Many Misnomer Lies, was that it...
by Krong
Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:48 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

I love how all the "masons" are in total agreement on a lynch for me. Well, give us some reason not to be. I look through your posts and all I see is bandwagoning. Again, I am trying not to let the fact that it was against masons bother me too much, but you need to account for your scummy...
by Krong
Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:53 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Dude, you are all over the place. :shock: I haven't completely ruled out the possibility that my ability is sane... but c'mon, it's a torture ability. Torture is not exactly known for its reliability. Also, is that the only thing causing you to flip to Diemo? Because earlier today, you at least thou...
by Krong
Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:14 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois Town & Necromancer Win!
Replies: 381
Views: 54527

Re: Necro-Cultia: Villiage of Burgois D1: Contamination

Woo, it's starting! I'll have to go back through the old thread and look for strategies, etc. from the last game. I did find myself wondering something that was asked about the setup last time, so I figure I might as well get a lot of the questions from last time asked now, before you're without int...
by Krong
Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:47 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Alright, let's do this. Got two big claims to make. Vytron, my strong reaction to you voting so early was because we had something we needed to figure out and time to do it in. We needed to figure out if we were going to claim. And we decided to do so. ------ I am a mason, and Madge and Diemo are my...
by Krong
Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:26 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Being decisive early on isn't necessarily scummy, it makes your views and opinions clear (which can then be scrutinised by everyone else) rather than hedging your bets and hoping nobody notices you. Oh, I agree entirely, but there's a world of difference between "I'm going to vote for {Person}...
by Krong
Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:57 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

... I don't even know what to say to that, but I'll give it a try: The goal of the game is not to lynch a scum each day; it is to kill ALL the scum through the course of the game. Even on the rarest of rare occasions where the town is 100% dead certain that they know {Person} is scum, that doesn't m...
by Krong
Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:45 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32766
Views: 2561187

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Signups for Dollhouse have started! GO GO GO :D
by Krong
Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:44 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Chairman Maofia - Game Over - Rightists and Survivor win!
Replies: 288
Views: 56246

Re: Chairman Maofia - D3 - The New China

Nothing you have said has given any reason why it's a good idea to have an early vote like that, even if Madge is scum. In fact, you are actively avoiding doing the reasonable thing.

FoS: Vytron
by Krong
Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:41 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Sign-ups (for PLAYERS)
Replies: 7487
Views: 819385

Re: Sign-ups (for PLAYERS)

DOLLHOUSE MAFIA http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Dollhouse_logo.png There are strange rumors on the streets these days. People talk about an organization that implants new personalities into individuals, using futuristic brain-altering technology. They say that these "dolls" ...

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