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by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:19 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 30945
Views: 2076865

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Meta God I hope I got it right this time. There definitely was some interesting stuff going on at the end. I kind of feel like wam fell into my (totally accidental) trap with the slip. Someting people failed to notice is that there's absolutely no reason for scum!me to point out that we ...
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:24 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I've become increasingly suspicious of Wam. I don't like his progress on mark and he was a little too enthusiastic to doubt his read on me.

Jimbob pushed me on my logic, but wam's doubt is based purely on the 'slip' without even thinking.
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:28 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Hi Mark, anything to claim?
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:45 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

You're talking about something else now. The slip and the logic are separate things. I applied no logic when you called it a slip.
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:15 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

wam wrote:Jimbob point agrees with my thinking too.
I'd really like you to elaborate.
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:58 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good. It's not good, but it's better than the modkill. town mark: lynch: bad (4:3) modkill potentially good (4:2...
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:39 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

@jimbob: do you see my logic now?

@wam: please respond:
plytho wrote:@wam: still voting in self-defense?


wam wrote:That slip is making me doubt my plytho read.
Why?
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:47 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Hmm, I think mpolo's opening post violates sungura's no-lying rule if he's scum. The ignorance in that post also doesn't really match with pre-game chat (although that could be faked.)
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:40 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

moody7277 wrote: I've been open about my motivations, so anything I could say now would be repeating myself.
So, no claim?
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:35 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Also, your self-defense defense was overly defensive.
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:32 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Unofficial Votals:

moody7277 (3) : BoomFrog, LaserGuy, jimbobmacdoodle
Mark_Cangila (3) : moody7277, plytho, wam

Not Voting (3) : Madge, Mark_Cangila, mpolo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to hammer.

@wam: still voting in self-defense?
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:04 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good. It's not good, but it's better than the modkill. town mark: lynch: bad (4:3) modkill potentially good (4:2...
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:55 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Hmm, wam's position on Mark feels pretty hedged: I can see the mark case but it could easily be scum pushing an easy mis lynch on a quiet newbie town. As others have said my reads this game have been awful so I'm going to go with my gut. It says boom, jimbob and one of moody/ Mark. Answering jimbob ...
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:26 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

So, yeah, I think I'm going to stick with Mark. I think he's scum but I'm not confident enough to risk game-end over it. It's pretty clear Mark can't keep up with the game while he's abroad so replacement or modkill seem very likely. Modkill more so than replacement. I'm personally against a zombie ...
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:00 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

In the worst case scenario. If mark is town and we mislynch moody or wam the game could be over tonight.
by plytho
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:55 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm freaking out a little because Mark, wam and moody all seem way too lynchable.

I think all three of them should claim.

Another concern: If mark is modkilled we're at mylo.
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:32 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

BoomFrog wrote: Only when the D2 claim tried to rest on the D1 one did I think it was implausible that a Power townie would claim like that.
So was it the combination or was it the timing?
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:19 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm fine switching to moody or, to a lesser extent, mpolo. Wam has moved to the townie half of my list for a couple of reasons: I liked that townie ping I got when I read him earlier, other people have become more suspicious to me, and I think I like that he talks a lot. Taking a quick look at his D...
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:56 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

You don't think people could be bussing Mark?
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

BoomFrog wrote:I wasn't pushing for his actual lynch, I wanted him to full claim before he disappeared. JimBob's post linked above came to the same conclusion, just less aggressively. VT!FreezeBlade was very unlikely, so there was no advantage for him to not full claim. Actually, the thing I most wanted was people's reactions to me insisting he full claim. However, I didn't get anything interesting out of that.
That's really not what you sounded like:
BoomFrog wrote:he needs to be lynched, and earlier is better.


What kind of reactions were you expecting? Why didn't you actually insist he full claim?
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:15 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Two

I do find it slightly odd that BoomFrog seems to assume that freezeblade is not a PR, and therefore needs to be lynched. Hmm, looking back at this, this could have been boomfrog not expecting any more posts from freezeblade D2 after his replacement request. So from a scum pov there was no risk of a...
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:48 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

@LaserGuy, do you think Madge faked these two posts (particularly the confusion between the table and the text)?
by plytho
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:13 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm a little concerned that my co-voters are my number 2 and 3 scummiest. I am also starting to buy into the Boomfrog suspicion brought up by LaserGuy (and others?) based on his freezeblade push D2. A freezeblade lynch would have been gold for scum. Reading back I also get the feeling Boomfrog was s...
by plytho
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:10 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

So, I had less time than expected today and belgium just kicked off so jimbob and boomfrog will have to wait until tomorrow.

I do get a general town feel from both so I feel fine ordering this list for now:

plytho
LaserGuy
jimbob*
boomfrog*
madge
wam
mpolo
Moody
Mark

Vote: Mark
by plytho
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:43 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

LaserGuy: as I've said before, his Vicarin vote D1 feels very townie to me. He could have easily avoided voting using the roleplay excuse or just voted another lynchable townie with a vote. Breaking the tie D1 towards the vicarin lynch is also townie as SDK is more dangerous to scum than Vicarin. (O...
by plytho
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:36 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

You have a point jimbob, in fact I actually changed my mind on mark last night. His pregame post fit a scum-mark a little too well. The timing of the werewolf question matches newbie scum confusing the start of scum chat with the start of the game. The content of the werewolf question matches Mark's...
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I feel I'm running out of steam here so I'll wait with LaserGuy, jimbob and Boomfrog until tomorrow.

moody7277 wrote:It's mostly a null tell.
The way you posted it it looks like the trigger for your vote.
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:29 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Madge: mark vote D1 on shaky reasoning. SDK vote D2 because of my ironclad logic. I can buy that her D1 mark tunnel was a combination of roleplay and actual tunneling. There’s a chance it was staged and she’s scum with mark, but in general I feel there are scummier people than Madge. No fruit for me...
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:58 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Mark: the pm question could have been scum-chat related. His interactions with Madge feel a little staged perhaps? Neither of their votes make all that much sense to me. It’s a nice bit of distancing that they don’t have to keep up all game since we’ll find out soon enough there are no wolves. On th...
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:05 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

moody7277 wrote:I think Mark missed the part where we've eliminated the possibility of a second killing faction with fb's flip.

Do you think town!mark wouldn't miss that part? Is this part of scum strategy or do you think scum!mark came up with this on his own?
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:33 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Ooh, another point on moody is his relatively strong response to Sabrar's 'keep this secret thing quiet' gambit.
by plytho
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:21 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Moody: Early D1 moody focussed on Mark because he considered the werewolf question to be indicative of mark’s werewolfness. Knowing there are no werewolves (scum knew this from pregame) this is an easy spot for scum to hide. It allows them to be active and talking while not contributing anything rel...
by plytho
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:00 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

There is no way an SK would lie about the fruit claim since the second PR flip will out them as a liar and lose them the game.

I think the second fruit recipient should not claim.
by plytho
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:12 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Mpolo: His D1 content looks pretty good. There’s not much of it but his reads seem sensible and I feel like he gave me and SDK an honest read. His move to Vicarin post-deadline also feels natural. I kind of feel like scum would prefer to lynch “scarier townie” SDK. D2 mpolo is concerning as he didn’...
by plytho
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:39 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

wam wrote:How does this align with all the statements saying I like bussing earlier in the game?
Are you saying I should call you town for having 4 townies at the bottom of your list? That would be too easy for scum!you, wouldn't it?
by plytho
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:22 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

I'm going to do these one by one since I don't know when I'll have time to do them and I don't want to wait until the end of the weekend to post my thoughts. Wam: Yeah, having the 4 confirmed townies at the bottom of your first reads list isn't a great look. That said, the reasoning for their placem...
by plytho
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:46 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

And you're right about the uselessness of freezeblade's N1 target. He couldn't have blocked the tracker, didn't block the fruit vendor and any scum he blocked isn't useful because it wasn't the kill (or it was but that's still no use) And I meant Freezeblade was the most powerful PR townie. Fruit ve...
by plytho
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:41 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Wam's posts today have pinged me somewhat. His challenge on BoomFrog's vote is weird, especially given his subsequent explanation. It sounds like a bit of a weird cop out to me.
wam-moody team?
by plytho
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:47 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

Hmm, that last one was pretty easy. This is pretty much freezeblade's only post D2 and has him saying he thinks jimbob is scum. So maaaybe a hint that he jailed jimbob to stop the kill? His nothing to claim does kind of counter that so I won't read anything into it.
by plytho
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:41 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Meta Mafia II: Day 4
Replies: 836
Views: 9439

Re: Meta Mafia II: Day Three

That flavor text is gruesome as hell. I am in the process of writing a full reads list. I can post a half reads list if you guys want. Half a reads list please. Right, looks like I'm going to need to get my head out of my ass and read this whole thing again with a fresh look at everyone. I'm not go...

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